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ChatterRed
07-12-2008, 01:15 PM
Question: Why does he not get any respect from the Reds organization? All he does is mostly post zeroes with an e.r.a. around 0.70 in high A ball. Is it because he will be 25 years old in November?

I never hear his name mentioned as one of the better prospects in the Reds organization.

dougdirt
07-12-2008, 01:25 PM
He needs to be in Chattanooga and tonight. He has flat out OWNED the FSL.

camisadelgolf
07-12-2008, 01:39 PM
For all we know, he could be in Sarasota on his own will. I doubt it, but there may be some outstanding circumstances that prevent him from advancing. It could be anything from an anxiety disorder to wanting to be loyal to his teammates and/or coaching staff.

icehole3
07-12-2008, 03:17 PM
I would think he wants to get to Cincy as fast as possible, of course he likes his teammates but Im pretty sure he likes making a lot of money.

Kingspoint
07-12-2008, 04:26 PM
He needs to be in Chattanooga and tonight. He has flat out OWNED the FSL.

I had no idea he was 25 until I saw ChatterRed mention it. As great as he's been this year, he should have been promoted two months ago at that age as they needed to find out if he was dominating because of his age.

That's really odd.

redsmetz
07-12-2008, 05:12 PM
I could be wrong, but I suspect that there are some logjams and the team needs to be doing some culling in the system and moving folks up.

OnBaseMachine
07-12-2008, 05:16 PM
Does anyone know how hard Geronimo throws?

GoReds33
07-14-2008, 01:40 AM
Does anyone know how hard Geronimo throws?According to lordofthetechs.com, he throws in the 85-87 range. Of course, I have no idea how accurate that is. The stats on there aren't up to date, so it may be way off.

Lordofthetechs.com (http://www.lordofthetechs.com/reds/players/player_20903.html)

RedlegJake
07-14-2008, 01:47 AM
According to lordofthetechs.com, he throws in the 85-87 range. Of course, I have no idea how accurate that is. The stats on there aren't up to date, so it may be way off.

Lordofthetechs.com (http://www.lordofthetechs.com/reds/players/player_20903.html)

That could be the reason there isn't more prospect "oomph" behind his numbers. 4 pitches, mixing speeds, decent control - that'll get you a long way in the lower leagues but if he really tops at 87 it'll be really hard for him to sustain that success unless he has mucho movement on everything.

dougdirt
07-14-2008, 01:52 AM
According to lordofthetechs.com, he throws in the 85-87 range. Of course, I have no idea how accurate that is. The stats on there aren't up to date, so it may be way off.

Lordofthetechs.com (http://www.lordofthetechs.com/reds/players/player_20903.html)

Not sure how accurate they are. I see some pretty big discrepancies from some guys that I know have accurate scouting reports on velocities.

camisadelgolf
07-14-2008, 10:21 AM
He might be the next Marcos Mateo. He's got PTBNL written all over him.

texasdave
07-14-2008, 10:57 AM
I get weary of reading that such and such a pitcher doesn't have major league 'stuff', and then all they do is pitch and get guys out. In the meantime, back at the major league ranch, all the guys with 'stuff' are getting pounded. If a guy is retiring batters on whatever level it is, especially in the Reds' organization, move him on up. Has Reds' management seen the results of the drivel they have been foisting upon us in the 3, 4 and 5 spots in the rotation pretty much this entire millenium?

charles j
07-14-2008, 01:13 PM
low 90's and great change up as per reds report(july)

OnBaseMachine
07-14-2008, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the info Charles. I wonder why the Reds haven't promoted him to Chattanooga yet? He doesn't have anything left to prove in Sarasota.

Sea Ray
07-14-2008, 03:58 PM
Actually the Reds need some junk ballers in their rotation as strange as that sounds. I'd like to see some sinkerballers to team with the power we have in Cueto, Volquez and Bailey. Preferably a LH junkballer, but I'd like to see a Brian Lawrence/ Jamie Moyer type guy in our rotation.

camisadelgolf
07-14-2008, 05:24 PM
Actually the Reds need some junk ballers in their rotation as strange as that sounds. I'd like to see some sinkerballers to team with the power we have in Cueto, Volquez and Bailey. Preferably a LH junkballer, but I'd like to see a Brian Lawrence/ Jamie Moyer type guy in our rotation.

Maybe Bobby Livingston can be that guy. He was never a guy who relied on his velocity, so maybe he can be one of the very, very, very few who improve following a shoulder surgery. Waiting in the wings, too, is Matt Maloney, who shouldn't be forgotten.

Sea Ray
07-14-2008, 09:32 PM
Maybe Bobby Livingston can be that guy. He was never a guy who relied on his velocity, so maybe he can be one of the very, very, very few who improve following a shoulder surgery. Waiting in the wings, too, is Matt Maloney, who shouldn't be forgotten.

Those two guys are exactly what I'm talking about. They'd really be an asset to the rotation in Cincinnati if they pulled it together.

Javy Pornstache
07-15-2008, 12:28 AM
^^ Ben Jukich fits this category as well. Perhaps Alexander Smit.