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mbgrayson
07-13-2008, 02:41 PM
Per John Fay:


Answers to the Burton question (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3a8f173e9e-14b5-4746-a09f-5dde69fe97ea&plckCommentSortOrder=TimeStampAscending&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com)
Posted by JohnFay (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PluckPersona&U=bb7839a7140b4d76b7b1cb8046c068bd&plckUserId=bb7839a7140b4d76b7b1cb8046c068bd) at 7/13/2008 1:10 PM EDT on Cincinnati.com

A lot of you have asked why Jared Burton wasn't in there in eighth inning the last couple of nights.

He's dealing the a sore lat muscle. He injured it in the Washington series on Sunday. He pitched once in the Chicago series, but it really bothered him. The Reds are hoping with the three days off here and the All-Star Break that he'll be good to go.

"We'll have him throw at the workout on Thursday and see if he's OK," Dusty Baker said. "If he's not, we'll get someone in from Louisville."
Baker kept the news quiet so the Brewers wouldn't know.
David Weathers, by the way, did a nice job in Burton's place. He protected a run one-lead each of the last two nights.

The bullpen, in fact, has been good overall. The relievers rank fourth in NL with 3.52 ERA. Adding Coco Francisco did wonders. Last year, the Reds were last in the NL with 5.13 ERA. The bullpen has been really good lately -- 1.84 over the last 17 games.

cumberlandreds
07-13-2008, 03:12 PM
OK,what's a lat muscle? That's a new on me.

paintmered
07-13-2008, 03:36 PM
OK,what's a lat muscle? That's a new on me.

The muscle that runs down each side of the back.

Joseph
07-13-2008, 03:41 PM
OK,what's a lat muscle? That's a new on me.

If you are a hunter, its the tenderloin :)

cumberlandreds
07-13-2008, 04:15 PM
The muscle that runs down each side of the back.


Thanks! Doesn't sound too serious.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 04:28 PM
I hope they let him rest it until he's healthy. That's the sort of thing that can cause a guy to change his mechanics and cascade to a shoulder or elbow issue.

Big Klu
07-13-2008, 08:19 PM
OK,what's a lat muscle? That's a new on me.

"Lat" is short for "latissimus dorsi".

boognish
07-13-2008, 08:42 PM
"Coco Francisco?"

Get Fay an editor.

OnBaseMachine
07-13-2008, 08:50 PM
"Coco Francisco?"

Get Fay an editor.

Fay also says Hairston is set to get a examinatino tomorrow. It must be similar to an exam.

Jerry Hairston Jr. suffered a right hamstring strain. He'll be re-evaluated Monday by Dr. Tim Kremchek. The examinatino will include an MRI.

Big Klu
07-13-2008, 08:53 PM
"Coco Francisco?"

Get Fay an editor.

Not that this has anything to do with Fay using the wrong name, but I hate the nickname "Coco". It sounds like a stripper or something.


Fay also says Hairston is set to get a examinatino tomorrow. It must be similar to an exam.

Jerry Hairston Jr. suffered a right hamstring strain. He'll be re-evaluated Monday by Dr. Tim Kremchek. The examinatino will include an MRI.

It's more like a quiz--a "little exam". :D

Always Red
07-13-2008, 09:49 PM
The examinatino will include an MRI.

Apparently the examinatino of the latissimus dorsi will be conducted in Latin.

Semper ubi sub ubi!

Red Heeler
07-13-2008, 11:19 PM
If you are a hunter, its the tenderloin :)

Nope, the tenderloin is the longissimus dorsi.

Tony Cloninger
07-13-2008, 11:19 PM
Sounds like Fay could use the 2 black guys from Airplane! to proofread his articles.

Razor Shines
07-14-2008, 01:35 AM
I don't know what a "lat" is, but I do know that the ubulus muscle connects to the upper dorsimus. It's boring but it's part of my life.

Reds1
07-14-2008, 01:48 AM
AS break came at a good time for the Reds. Lots a little nags and even Kepp gets a few days along with Griffey and Dunn. Nice end to the 1st half though. They kept Weathers in a bit too long, but hey can't complain winning 2 in brewer land against the pitching we faced. Nice job. Homer - way to go. I'll be watching the AS Game and Volquez. I usually don't care, but just love the guy. Well, like him a lot. :)

RedlegJake
07-14-2008, 02:05 AM
I just hope the off days are enough to get Hairston and Burton healthy. This team just seems to play better when Jerry's in the leadoff spot and the pen NEEDS Burton.

Jpup
07-14-2008, 03:18 AM
I just hope the off days are enough to get Hairston and Burton healthy. This team just seems to play better when Jerry's in the leadoff spot and the pen NEEDS Burton.

I hope I am wrong, but it looks like Hairston will be out for a while. That looked like serious pain. He seems like a tough guy so we'll see.

Reds1
07-14-2008, 09:09 AM
I hope I am wrong, but it looks like Hairston will be out for a while. That looked like serious pain. He seems like a tough guy so we'll see.

I agree, but a good cramp is a killer so I"M holding out, but I'm afraid it could be a bit.

dfs
07-14-2008, 10:46 AM
"Coco Francisco?"

Get Fay an editor.
No such animal as a copy editor at most newspapers these days.

Always Red
07-14-2008, 10:51 AM
No such animal as a copy editor at most newspapers these days.

I know we all love to pick on Fay, but to be fair, I can always forgive spelling errors on blogs, just like I do here.

I think there's a different standard between the guy's blog and his newspaper column, and for sure there is no editor on a blog.

Chip R
07-14-2008, 11:05 AM
I know we all love to pick on Fay, but to be fair, I can always forgive spelling errors on blogs, just like I do here.

I think there's a different standard between the guy's blog and his newspaper column, and for sure there is no editor on a blog.

He's calling it a "lateral" muscle in his articles today.

Big Klu
07-14-2008, 12:15 PM
He's calling it a "lateral" muscle in his articles today.

Must have flunked Latin and anatomy in high school.

gm
07-14-2008, 12:41 PM
No such animal as a copy editor at most newspapers these days.

They're called "readers" who offer (usually) unsolicited feedback

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 06:35 PM
* Jared Burton won't be available tonight, but hopes to be ready tomorrow.

"I went out and played catch today, threw off the mound and everything felt great," Burton said. "I'll take it easy tonight, but tomorrow it's full-go."

Burton said he relaxed during the break to try to get his arm ready to pitch again.

"I just needed rest and it paid off," Burton said. "Those extra three days in Milwaukee really helped."

http://www.thelotd.com/ctrent/blog

*BaseClogger*
07-17-2008, 06:58 PM
I don't know what a "lat" is, but I do know that the ubulus muscle connects to the upper dorsimus. It's boring but it's part of my life.

Just watch out for the guns. They'll get you.

Ltlabner
07-17-2008, 07:39 PM
# YEAR NAME AGE IP H9 BB9 SO9 HR9 RA+
1. 2008 Jared Burton 27 48.3 8.38 3.17 9.31 0.56 1.69
2. 2008 Jeremy Affeldt 29 46.0 9.39 3.33 9.39 1.37 0.96
3. 2008 Mike Lincoln 33 44.0 7.36 2.45 7.98 1.43 1.15
4. 2008 F. Cordero 33 43.0 6.07 4.81 9.84 0.63 1.73
5. 2008 David Weathers 38 39.0 9.92 4.15 5.54 1.15 1.20
6. 2008 Bill Bray 25 28.3 8.58 5.08 9.85 0.64 1.33
7. 2008 Gary Majewski 28 16.7 12.96 2.16 4.86 0.54 0.96
8. 2008 Todd Coffey 27 15.3 10.57 3.52 2.93 1.76 0.74
9. 2008 Josh Fogg 31 14.0 10.44 2.95 5.45 1.82 0.56
10.2008 Kent Mercker 40 13.7 8.56 5.27 3.95 0.66 1.44

Honestly I looked up the numbers try to say Dusty had ridden Burton hard as it *seemed* like everytime I flipped on the TV Burton was on the mound. But he's IP aren't completley out of line.

He's pitched the most IP of the staff, but is 2 extra innings significant? On the one hand, the distrobution doesn't seem much different than the other couple teams I looked up.

On the other hand, Burton has acquired those 48IP 2 and 3 batters at a time (as opposed to Affelt and Lincoln who *typically* pitch for more innings per game). Is running out more often for a couple of batters be more damaging as pitching 2 or 3 innings a couple of times per week?

As much as I'd love to tag Dusty, this appears to be the unfortunate fickle finger of randomness. Hopefully it's a random boo-boo and not signs of impending disaster.

SMcGavin
07-17-2008, 10:54 PM
I don't know what a "lat" is, but I do know that the ubulus muscle connects to the upper dorsimus. It's boring but it's part of my life.

Not only have I seen that movie four or five times, but I also took an extremely in-depth anatomy course last fall. And I still had to google "upper dorsimus" to make sure it wasn't a real muscle. Thanks for making me feel like an idiot :)

HumnHilghtFreel
07-18-2008, 09:14 AM
On the other hand, Burton has acquired those 48IP 2 and 3 batters at a time (as opposed to Affelt and Lincoln who *typically* pitch for more innings per game). Is running out more often for a couple of batters be more damaging as pitching 2 or 3 innings a couple of times per week?


It's more time up throwing in the bullpen, so I'd say there's probably a difference between the two.

Jpup
07-18-2008, 12:34 PM
Is Jared Burton really hurt or are the Reds just trying to trade David Weathers?

OnBaseMachine
08-05-2008, 11:10 PM
Burton wants to return despite setback
Injured righty has Monday bullpen session cut short
By Justice B. Hill / MLB.com

CINCINNATI -- Manager Dusty Baker felt Jared Burton's frustration.

"He had a little setback yesterday," Baker said.

He shook his head.

Burton did likewise -- and for good reason, too. For after making steps to get back onto the field, it looks as if his stay on the 15-day disabled list will last awhile longer. How much longer, Burton can't say, but he knows that having to cut short his bullpen session on Monday didn't help matters.

That's the frustration of it, he said Tuesday.

"I'm not used to this -- the injuries," he said of the strained muscle in his right side. "I've never really been hurt before, as far as keeping me out of the game this long."

But Burton, a 26-year-old right-hander from South Carolina, tries to keep his mind on his team by remaining a part of the team. He's still getting to the ballpark early, he's working with the trainers daily and he's doing his cardio work to keep his fitness sound.

Those are pluses. The minus -- and it's a gigantic minus for Baker and Burton -- is that he can't contribute in the games.

"I'm doing everything I can to get back," Burton said as he stood in front of his locker. "Like I said, I'm as frustrated as anybody."

He can't say how much the setback on Monday pushed back his return to action. He did say that even when the injury to his side does feel better that he'll need time to strengthen his arm.

Each day he can't throw a baseball is a day that pushes his return to the active roster back even further.

Considering the kind of season Burton (4-1, 2.23 ERA) was having, he realizes that his absence hasn't helped the Reds.

"He had a good year going on, too -- a real good year," Baker said.

Now, the year might be threatened. It holds less than two months, which doesn't present Burton with much time to return to form.

Would he be better served to forget about 2008 and focus on '09?

No, he said.

"I'm not willing to do that until the last day of the season," Burton said. "I want to pitch, and whether this team is in a playoff race or not, I want to be a part of this team. That's why I'm here.

"So that's my goal, to get back."

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080805&content_id=3257379&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Hoosier Red
08-05-2008, 11:14 PM
# YEAR NAME AGE IP H9 BB9 SO9 HR9 RA+
1. 2008 Jared Burton 27 48.3 8.38 3.17 9.31 0.56 1.69
2. 2008 Jeremy Affeldt 29 46.0 9.39 3.33 9.39 1.37 0.96
3. 2008 Mike Lincoln 33 44.0 7.36 2.45 7.98 1.43 1.15
4. 2008 F. Cordero 33 43.0 6.07 4.81 9.84 0.63 1.73
5. 2008 David Weathers 38 39.0 9.92 4.15 5.54 1.15 1.20
6. 2008 Bill Bray 25 28.3 8.58 5.08 9.85 0.64 1.33
7. 2008 Gary Majewski 28 16.7 12.96 2.16 4.86 0.54 0.96
8. 2008 Todd Coffey 27 15.3 10.57 3.52 2.93 1.76 0.74
9. 2008 Josh Fogg 31 14.0 10.44 2.95 5.45 1.82 0.56
10.2008 Kent Mercker 40 13.7 8.56 5.27 3.95 0.66 1.44

Honestly I looked up the numbers try to say Dusty had ridden Burton hard as it *seemed* like everytime I flipped on the TV Burton was on the mound. But he's IP aren't completley out of line.

He's pitched the most IP of the staff, but is 2 extra innings significant? On the one hand, the distrobution doesn't seem much different than the other couple teams I looked up.

On the other hand, Burton has acquired those 48IP 2 and 3 batters at a time (as opposed to Affelt and Lincoln who *typically* pitch for more innings per game). Is running out more often for a couple of batters be more damaging as pitching 2 or 3 innings a couple of times per week?

As much as I'd love to tag Dusty, this appears to be the unfortunate fickle finger of randomness. Hopefully it's a random boo-boo and not signs of impending disaster.


But that extra 2 innings is with the last two weeks off as well. I know Majewski has been in AAA for part of the season and Weathers was on the DL, but Affeldt and Lincoln have both been healthy all season if I remember correctly.