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RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 02:54 PM
Reds
Hairston, RF
Keppinger, SS
Dunn, LF
Phillips, 2B
Encarnacion, 3B
A Phillips, 1B
Patterson, CF
Ross, C
Bailey, P

Brewers
Weeks, 2B
Hardy, SS
Braun, LF
Fielder, 1B
Kapler, RF
Hall, 3B
Cameron, CF
Kendall, C
Sabathia, P

Degenerate39
07-13-2008, 03:08 PM
Please say Hairston isn't hurt

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:08 PM
Let's hope that's just a shot to the funny bone.

cumberlandreds
07-13-2008, 03:09 PM
Dusty waving the white flag today? That's a real Sunday special, 2008 Reds style.

cumberlandreds
07-13-2008, 03:09 PM
Please say Hairston isn't hurt


What happened?

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:11 PM
Dusty waving the while flag today? That's a real Sunday special, 2008 Reds style.

Just sitting his lefties, I guess. Patterson over Bruce is a head scratcher though.

Sabathia's career splits:
vR: .251/.315/.390
vL: .243/.303/.373

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:11 PM
Dunn drilled with the first pitch. BP up. Kill the lefty Brandon.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:12 PM
What happened?

Tried to push bunt and the ball caromed off his forearm/elbow.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:12 PM
BP rolls over one to 3B. End of 1.

reds44
07-13-2008, 03:13 PM
Dunner didn't like that.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:14 PM
Dusty waving the white flag today? That's a real Sunday special, 2008 Reds style.

I'm not so sure about that. Who's out that's normally in there? Junior, Bruce & Votto. Junior is a defensive liability and CC owns lefties. Bruce has been struggling lately...and CC owns lefties. Votto could use a day off...and CC owns lefties. :O) Yes, I know that Joey hits lefties very well, but I don't have a problem with Andy getting a spot start. If we're going to win versus CC...it's in a low scoring game. That means we need the D and the ability to play small ball. Votto, Junior & Bruce are all bunting liabilities too. All in all, I kinda like this lineup in this situation. Besides, once we get into their bullpen, look at our pinchhitters available. Nice.

Degenerate39
07-13-2008, 03:16 PM
Dunner didn't like that.

If you were at the game right now that would've been a home run!

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:16 PM
Bailey still throwing that 92-93 mph straight fastball. He better locate it very well or it's gonna be a real long day.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:17 PM
So far so good. Mid to low 90's and pounding the lower half of the zone. Nice so far.

Tornon
07-13-2008, 03:17 PM
That was an ugly breaking ball..

reds44
07-13-2008, 03:18 PM
Bailey still throwing that 92-93 mph straight fastball. He better locate it very well or it's gonna be a real long day.
That's 3-4 MPH then it was when he was up here the first time.

cumberlandreds
07-13-2008, 03:18 PM
I'm not so sure about that. Who's out that's normally in there? Junior, Bruce & Votto. Junior is a defensive liability and CC owns lefties. Bruce has been struggling lately...and CC owns lefties. Votto could use a day off...and CC owns lefties. :O) Yes, I know that Joey hits lefties very well, but I don't have a problem with Andy getting a spot start. If we're going to win versus CC...it's in a low scoring game. That means we need the D and the ability to play small ball. Votto, Junior & Bruce are all bunting liabilities too. All in all, I kinda like this lineup in this situation. Besides, once we get into their bullpen, look at our pinchhitters available. Nice.

I guess I just don't understand the theory of resting people when you got three days off coming up. Oh well,I hope it works out and you are right the Brewers bullpen isn't very good and we got some good PH's today.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:19 PM
Wow. Hairston catches a blooper on a full speed dive. Junior would've come up 10 feet short. Great play.

Matt700wlw
07-13-2008, 03:19 PM
bailey is hitting 94

reds44
07-13-2008, 03:20 PM
What a catch!

reds44
07-13-2008, 03:20 PM
bailey is hitting 94
He has rediscovered his heater.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:21 PM
Phillips fields a grounder up the middle thanks to good positioning. End of 1, 0-0.

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 03:21 PM
Bailey just hit 97 on that last pitch according to gameday....

reds44
07-13-2008, 03:21 PM
94 heater/84 slider

Not bad

reds44
07-13-2008, 03:21 PM
96!

MikeS21
07-13-2008, 03:22 PM
94 heater/84 slider

Not bad
Better stat: 15 pitch inning:
11 Strikes
4 Balls

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:22 PM
Juan Fransisco on deck in the futures game on ESPN 2.

mbgrayson
07-13-2008, 03:23 PM
Your home plate ump today is Bob Davidson, who averages 12.1Ks per game, 6.5 BBs per game, for a 1.9 K/BB ratio. Teams score 8.21 runs per game when Davidson is behind the plate: he is more of a pitcher's ump.

Matt700wlw
07-13-2008, 03:25 PM
hope he keeps it up

Tornon
07-13-2008, 03:25 PM
Can we please pinch hit here?

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:25 PM
Double by Andy. 2nd & 3rd with no outs. Corey steps up.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:26 PM
Fransisco with a bloop single over SS in the futures game.

Tornon
07-13-2008, 03:26 PM
Corey HBP.. thank you C.C.

SirFelixCat
07-13-2008, 03:27 PM
That had to hurt.

Bases loaded, no outs for Ross....please stay hot.

hebroncougar
07-13-2008, 03:27 PM
Corey HBP.. thank you C.C.

Hopefully he broke a bone with Patterson. That could make that the most important ab by the Reds between now and the end of the year. :D;)

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:28 PM
CC is all over the place so far. 2 HBP (3 if you count Jerry) but even without those, he's all over the place. Hopefully that bodes well for the Redlegs.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:29 PM
Ross stays productive. Sac fly. 1-0 Reds.

SirFelixCat
07-13-2008, 03:29 PM
Hopefully he broke a bone with Patterson. That could make that the most important ab by the Reds between now and the end of the year. :D;)

Poor taste, imo.



And gj by Ross w/ the sac fly!

Matt700wlw
07-13-2008, 03:30 PM
I'd rather have an 8 man lineup than have cp in there :)

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:30 PM
I tell Bailey to show bunt and take pitches.

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 03:31 PM
I tell Bailey to show bunt and take pitches.

good call

hebroncougar
07-13-2008, 03:31 PM
Poor taste, imo.



And gj by Ross w/ the sac fly!

That's why I winked..........you kinda hope, but you don't want a guy to get hurt.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:32 PM
4-6-3 DP....tried pulling off the bunt at the last minute to get it past the charging corners. Backfired. Disappointing, but I like the aggression.

hebroncougar
07-13-2008, 03:32 PM
Homer can't catch a break.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:35 PM
I really like Homer's change of velocity so far. 92 fastball, 77 curveball, mid 80's changeups. Hit 96-97 earlier. *crosses fingers*

hebroncougar
07-13-2008, 03:36 PM
Homer's velocity, according to the FSN gun, is much better than last time he was up (93-94ish, fairly consistent)

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:38 PM
Wild pitch by Homer. Kapler to 2nd. (probably should've been a passed ball though)

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:40 PM
Fly out to Hairston advances runner to 3rd. 2 down.

Tom Servo
07-13-2008, 03:41 PM
phew

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:42 PM
Nice job by Homer to get out of a jam. Fly out to Hairston. End of 2, 1-0 good guys.

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 03:42 PM
Hairston's elbow an issue?

SirFelixCat
07-13-2008, 03:43 PM
Oh God :(

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:44 PM
Aww crap. Hairston pulls up lame and goes down after reaching on a bunt single. It does NOT look good.

Bruce to RF I imagine.

MrCinatit
07-13-2008, 03:44 PM
Oh, this is very bad for Mr. Hairston.

SirFelixCat
07-13-2008, 03:44 PM
Please please please be a cramp!

LvJ
07-13-2008, 03:44 PM
Awww crap.

redsfaninbsg
07-13-2008, 03:44 PM
The Reds are cursed.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:44 PM
Crap! Hairston really injured now. Hammy it looks like.

*hopes it's a cramp...but it doesn't look like it*

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 03:44 PM
Hairston can't catch a break.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 03:45 PM
This looks really bad. Being helped off the field.

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 03:46 PM
Yeah, thats not good at all.

MrCinatit
07-13-2008, 03:46 PM
Ugh. Hairston being helped off the field. Terrible site - especially with one guy elevating his feet.

LvJ
07-13-2008, 03:46 PM
Gotta feel bad for the guy. Career year for him and still can't stay healthy.

SirFelixCat
07-13-2008, 03:46 PM
This looks really bad :(

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 03:46 PM
I thought he was grabbing toward his knee and they are not even bending that leg just keeping it straight.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:46 PM
Hairston coming out of the game. Not putting any weight on it. Doesn't look good. That's a shame, he's finally gotten a shot at a starting position and he was stepping up big time. Really unfortunate.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:47 PM
Hairston being carried off the field, with a trainer stabilizing his foot/leg. My gut says that's a bad sign.

Bruce is the replacement.

WVRedsFan
07-13-2008, 03:47 PM
Bummer.

He really will be missed.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 03:47 PM
Keppinger with a hit to right. 1st and 3rd.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:48 PM
Keppinger reaches out and slaps one to RF. First and third.

Dunn-Phillips instead of Phillips-Dunn makes me happy.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:48 PM
Bruce replaces Hairston at first. Kepp with a single and Bruce races around to 3rd. Come on! Let's win this one for Jerry! :O)

redsrule2500
07-13-2008, 03:48 PM
Patterson over Bruce is the biggest, most pathetic decision by Dusty in a long time. What the crap is this guy thinking??????????????? It's like he does opposite of what he should.

redsrule2500
07-13-2008, 03:49 PM
Sucks so bad for Hairston...he's really giving it his all, but his body can't keep up! :( or something like that.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 03:50 PM
2-0 Reds on a sac fly by Dunn.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:51 PM
Dunn with a LD to LF. Sac fly. Nice AB from Dunner coming back from 1-2.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:51 PM
Nice ab by Dunner. Sac fly...to LEFT no less. 2-0 Reds.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-13-2008, 03:52 PM
Kepp will need to step up and start hitting again to replace Hairston.

Is Freel due back soon?

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:52 PM
Lazy liner to 1st by Phillips. 2 down...Kepp holds at first.

flyer85
07-13-2008, 03:53 PM
Hairston's elbow an issue?not anymore :D

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:53 PM
Nice play by Hardy to get Kepp at second. Tough break for Edwin.

2-0 Reds middle of 3. Bailey facing Kendall, CC & Weeks.

Falls City Beer
07-13-2008, 03:55 PM
Patterson over Bruce is the biggest, most pathetic decision by Dusty in a long time. What the crap is this guy thinking??????????????? It's like he does opposite of what he should.

With Bailey going, I want ALL the defense I can get. Homer's not going to be K-ing many, so you're going to need a guy to get on his horse and shag the long flies in the gaps.

Wheelhouse
07-13-2008, 03:56 PM
not anymore :D

Wow. Tasteless.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:57 PM
Big slugger coming to the plate in Sebathia.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 03:58 PM
Sabathia homers on an 0-2 pitch right down the middle. 2-1 Reds.

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 03:58 PM
Thats unreal.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 03:58 PM
Foul ball off of Ross' family jewels. That hurts just to watch.

Homerun Sebathia. Crap.

LoganBuck
07-13-2008, 03:58 PM
Sabathia is a menace!

Falls City Beer
07-13-2008, 03:59 PM
Thats unreal.

I was going to say, "that's par for the course."

Tomato, tomahto.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 03:59 PM
The was not an easy pitch to pull fair. Great swing by CC.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:00 PM
4 straight pitches to the exact same location. Not what you want to see against a pitcher. You change speeds AND locations on a pitcher. Ross is somewhat to blame for that one IMO.

Reds/Flyers Fan
07-13-2008, 04:01 PM
That 0-2 pitch was about as weak as it gets. Even Corey Patterson could have smashed that

KYRedsFan
07-13-2008, 04:01 PM
And that is why Homer will never get it. That is just sad.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:02 PM
Weeks strikes out swinging. 2 down.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:02 PM
Weeks strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-13-2008, 04:02 PM
BCast can show he's serious about winning by making a run at Sabathia.

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 04:02 PM
And that is why Homer will never get it. That is just sad.

Please.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:03 PM
2 straight Ks to end the inning. 55 pitches for Bailey through 3.

Wheelhouse
07-13-2008, 04:03 PM
Bailey looks good aside from the pitch to CC...

KYRedsFan
07-13-2008, 04:04 PM
Please.

No thanks. How is that acceptable?

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:04 PM
K #2. Hardy goes down looking.

I know people are bummed about the CC homer, but overall, Homer is pitching VERY well. His velocity is back, he's throwing strikes (37 strikes/18 balls), and he's changing speeds VERY well. All in all I'm happy so far.

Reds/Flyers Fan
07-13-2008, 04:05 PM
BCast can show he's serious about winning by making a run at Sabathia.

Would be amazing to have him. But word is he wants to pitch back home in California. My bet is he's wearing a Dodgers or Angels uni next season :thumbdown

flyer85
07-13-2008, 04:05 PM
Homer has been hanging the curve all day ... until the CC pitch they had been above the hitting zone and the Brewers had fouled them back. The CC hanger was belt high

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:05 PM
2-1 Reds top of 4th. Andy, Corey & David coming to the plate.

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 04:06 PM
No thanks. How is that acceptable?

Because you are saying a 22 year old pitcher will never get it because he made a mistake pitch and gave up a HR but has allowed a run through 3 innings against a strong hitting team and for the most part has kept guys off balance to this point in the game.

LoganBuck
07-13-2008, 04:08 PM
2-1 Reds top of 4th. Andy, Corey & David coming to the plate.

Fear personified!

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:08 PM
Reds go down 1-2-3 in the 4th. 2-1 Reds mid 4th.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:08 PM
Homer has been hanging the curve all day ... until the CC pitch they had been above the hitting zone and the Brewers had fouled them back. The CC hanger was belt high

How so? I've only seen about 3 or 4 curveballs from Homer today and other than the one to CC they've all been low in the zone?

LoganBuck
07-13-2008, 04:10 PM
Because you are saying a 22 year old pitcher will never get it because he made a mistake pitch and gave up a HR but has allowed a run through 3 innings against a strong hitting team and for the most part has kept guys off balance to this point in the game.

But Hal McCoy said he hasn't won a game since April.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:13 PM
Braun strikes out swinging. 3 Ks. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:14 PM
Fielder singles.

flyer85
07-13-2008, 04:14 PM
How so? I've only seen about 3 or 4 curveballs from Homer today and other than the one to CC they've all been low in the zone?just hung one to braun, haung one to hardy in the first, Kapler in th 2nd

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:14 PM
Right hamstring strain for Hairston. Will have an MRI tomorrow in Cincinnati

SirFelixCat
07-13-2008, 04:14 PM
Right hamstring strain for Hairston. MRI tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed!

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:14 PM
But Hal McCoy said he hasn't won a game since April.

And we all know that you judge how a pitcher throws by his w/l record.


~Strained Hammy for Hairston. Marty just announced it. *whew* Just strained is a good thing.

Reds/Flyers Fan
07-13-2008, 04:15 PM
Are strains particularly serious?

flyer85
07-13-2008, 04:16 PM
Fielder slide into 2nd and the bag disappears.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:16 PM
just hung one to braun, haung one to hardy in the first, Kapler in th 2nd

Those were curveballs? They looked like sliders to me. But I'll take your word for it.

LoganBuck
07-13-2008, 04:17 PM
Prince Fielder steals a base, or is it stills a base?

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 04:18 PM
Prince Fielder steals a base, or is it stills a base?

Looks like he had a massive jump.

Reds/Flyers Fan
07-13-2008, 04:18 PM
Bailey gets Babe Ruth Hall out to end the inning

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:18 PM
Kapler grounds out and Hall lines out to right. 2-1 Reds after 4.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:18 PM
3 down. Another solid inning from Homer. 2-1 Redlegs after 4.

Homer's pitch count has soared the past 2 innings though. Up to 71 through 4 now.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:19 PM
71 pitches through 4 for Bailey

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 04:19 PM
Two things:

1. Bailey didn't even look to Fielder when he stole. Huge jump.

2. That second pitch to Hall that was called a ball.... where the heck was that at?

LoganBuck
07-13-2008, 04:20 PM
Take the Fireworks Friday logo down!

reds44
07-13-2008, 04:20 PM
Are strains particularly serious?
They are just calling it a strain until he gets an MRI done.

LoganBuck
07-13-2008, 04:22 PM
Bruce with a nice knock

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:22 PM
Bailey strikes out.

Bruce lines a single to right.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:23 PM
Keppinger grounds into a 4-6 FC. 2 outs.

reds44
07-13-2008, 04:23 PM
Nice to see Bruce with a knock vs. CC

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:23 PM
Kepp just barely beats out a DP. 1 down, Kepp on first. ~oops, forgot Homer K's. 2 down.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:25 PM
Dunn strikes out. 2-1 Reds mid 5th.

DoogMinAmo
07-13-2008, 04:30 PM
Watching Gameday it seems like Homer is up in the zone, at least to Cameron. Has he been like this all game?

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:30 PM
Cameron strikes out swinging on a 94 MPH fastball. 4 Ks. 1 out.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:30 PM
MLB.com just announced that Volquez will NOT start the ASG. No announcement yet as to who will start. I'd guess Zambrano based on latest starts.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:31 PM
Kendall singles to left.

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 04:31 PM
Edwin should have made that play on the single... but Bailey gets the DP to end it.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:32 PM
DP to end the inning.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:32 PM
That DP really helps with Bailey's pitch count. Now 83 through 5.

LvJ
07-13-2008, 04:33 PM
I am so excited for Homer today. What a performance thus far. 0 walks and hitting 93-94 with nasty stuff. Love it.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:34 PM
After 5, Homer's line....

5.0 ip / 4 hits / 1 er / 4 k's / 0 bb / 1 hr / 83 pitches (58 strikes)

Very impressed right now. He's absolutely pounding the strikezone.

DoogMinAmo
07-13-2008, 04:35 PM
Anti-Dusty ball haunts Ned Yost there. I know CC just hit a homer and may not have much experience bunting, and maybe I have been watching too many Reds games this year, but I had a gut feeling he would ground out for a dp if he didnt bunt.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:37 PM
Edwin doubles down the left field line.

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 04:37 PM
The Reds are actually playing some good baseball.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:37 PM
Edwin with a 2 bagger!

DoogMinAmo
07-13-2008, 04:38 PM
:)

I was about to type that I have a feeling Edwin is about to go on one of his team-carrying tears.

Maybe I should go play the lottery.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:38 PM
The Reds are actually playing some good baseball.

Yep. As much as it shocks me, I really think Dusty put the right line-up out there in today's situation.

reds44
07-13-2008, 04:38 PM
He is hot like only he can be hot.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:40 PM
Marty just said that the homeplate ump stopped to pick up a butterfly. Gives it to the batboy who releases it. I really don't know WHAT to say about that. :O)

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:40 PM
Patterson strikes out swinging to end the inning. 2-1 Reds mid 6th.

DoogMinAmo
07-13-2008, 04:41 PM
Anyone else get the feeling that Patterson facing CC is akin to a little leaguer facing CC?

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:41 PM
Patterson strikes out swinging. Middle of 6th, 2-1 Cincy.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:42 PM
Pirates just took a 6-5 lead on the Cardinals in the 6th.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 04:43 PM
Anyone else get the feeling that Patterson facing CC is akin to a little leaguer facing CC?

What's the most PA a player has had who finished with a sub .200 batting average?

Corey's OBP is lower than Dunn's AVG and his SLG is less than Dunn's OBP.

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 04:43 PM
that was a shot foul by Weeks... just missed a double, maybe triple...

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 04:44 PM
Ross and Bailey not on the same page...

BuckeyeRedleg
07-13-2008, 04:44 PM
Why is the hell would Dusty start Patterson against Sabathia?

Ridiculous.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:44 PM
Pirates just took a 6-5 lead on the Cardinals in the 6th.

That has been one heck of an entertaining series. Back and forth and back again. It's amazing how exciting a game can be when neither team has a bullpen worth 2 cents.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:45 PM
Why is the hell would Dusty start Patterson against Sabathia?

Ridiculous.

Defense. Plain and simple. Low scoring game is the only real chance to win against CC.

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 04:46 PM
Weeks singles to left...

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:46 PM
Weeks leads off with a single to left.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:46 PM
Weeks with a leadoff single.

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 04:47 PM
Weeks steals 2nd on the high throw by Ross...

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 04:47 PM
Homer can't hold people on.

Cyclone792
07-13-2008, 04:48 PM
This is turning into the kind of game where not having Jared Burton available to pitch may be a massive loss.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:48 PM
Homer's throwing a good game, but he is WAY too easy to run on. SB Weeks.

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 04:49 PM
Rickie Weeks is a terrible baseball player.

DoogMinAmo
07-13-2008, 04:49 PM
He might steal third unles Homer learns to hold a runner.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:49 PM
A big 6-5 FC as Weeks makes a big baserunning error.

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 04:49 PM
what a bonehead play by Weeks... good, heads up to throw to 3rd for the out.. That is a little league play right there... I'll take it!

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 04:49 PM
Grounder to SS and Weeks runs in to an out at 3B. Fortunate break for the Bailey.

reds44
07-13-2008, 04:50 PM
Weeks, lol

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 04:50 PM
I really like the fact that Bailey is going at guys. Doesn't seem to be nibbling like he has previously.

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 04:50 PM
Braun with a deep fly out to Bruce... go to Bray against Prince please... Take the great Bailey outing and go...

VR
07-13-2008, 04:50 PM
what a bonehead play by Weeks... good, heads up to throw to 3rd for the out.. That is a little league play right there... I'll take it!

We know what Reds opponents have been enjoying

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:50 PM
Braun flies out to Bruce. 2 down. Hardy holds at first.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:50 PM
Bray is warming up but it looks like they are keeping Bailey in to face Fielder with 2 outs.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-13-2008, 04:51 PM
Bring in Bray here.

DoogMinAmo
07-13-2008, 04:51 PM
This is without a doubt Homers last inning, 97 pitches after that FO.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:51 PM
No Bray is coming in to face Fielder.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:51 PM
Pitching change? Anybody warming? ~edit~ Oh, Bray.

GREAT game by Homer! Great to see.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 04:52 PM
Bray in for Bailey. Good move Dusty.

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 04:52 PM
Homer just dropped 6 F bombs in three seconds. Great game from Homer. Bad move by Dusty here IMO.

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 04:52 PM
More Bailey outings like these could go a long way in determining whether or not we are playing for a wild card spot.... great move Dusty... Great game Bailey... He is a little mad though... You can really tell he is kind of a head-case...

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:52 PM
Good start by Bailey 5.2 IP, 5H, 1ER, 4K, 0BB.

redsrule2500
07-13-2008, 04:52 PM
Wow, was Bailey saying "F*** f*** f*** f*** f***" or was that just me?

CrackerJack
07-13-2008, 04:52 PM
an encouraging day for Homer

DoogMinAmo
07-13-2008, 04:52 PM
Third straight game for Bray, who is actually more effective vs. righties. We need one more gem before the ASB.

I hope this works...

reds44
07-13-2008, 04:53 PM
Great outing by Homer. Couldn't ask for much more.

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 04:53 PM
Wow, was Bailey saying "F*** f*** f*** f*** f***" or was that just me?

It was not just you.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:53 PM
Double switch. Votto in at first too. Again, with that starting lineup...Dusty's got great late inning options.

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 04:53 PM
Lefties hitting .271 off Bray, but didn't see that Fielder is 0 for 6 with 3 K's against Bray.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:54 PM
Cards and Pirates going back and forth with the lead again. Cards now up 7-6 top 7th.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:54 PM
You can really tell he is kind of a head-case...

Don't you want a pitcher to NOT want to come out of the game? Especially when he's throwing well? I sure do. Regardless, great outing by Homer.

Cyclone792
07-13-2008, 04:54 PM
Very nice start by Bailey - it's amazing what improved command can do for a pitcher - and a nice move by Baker to bring in Bray right here.

VR
07-13-2008, 04:54 PM
Hopefully Bray cements a super start for Homer. Worst case is a very, very good start.

Memo to Dusty's file.....Both strong starts this year featured Ross behind the dish for Homer....as he was in Louisville when Homer was slingin' back in April

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 04:54 PM
Votto in too. Wow, Dusty has properly executed a double switch. Will wonders never cease?

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 04:55 PM
Walk on 5 pitches. Jesus Bray.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:55 PM
Fielder walks.

redsrule2500
07-13-2008, 04:55 PM
yay for Dusty fixing what isn't broken!

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:56 PM
"billy, billy, billy, billy....this is a big one billy" ~ Judge Smails

Come on Bray! Find the zone!

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 04:56 PM
Don't you want a pitcher to NOT want to come out of the game? Especially when he's throwing well? I sure do. Regardless, great outing by Homer.

Yes.. but what does that have to do with dropping 6 F bombs on national tv, that is kiddish... thank you Bray....

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 04:56 PM
Told you. Bray is so overrated.

dougdirt
07-13-2008, 04:56 PM
Well thats a shame.

LvJ
07-13-2008, 04:56 PM
nice

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:56 PM
There goes the lead. Tie game 2-2 on a Kapler single.

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Still was the right move. Shame Bray couldn't come through.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Well, now we know why Homer was dropping F-bombs. 2-2 ballgame.

redsrule2500
07-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Why does Dusty have to always fix what isn't broken? Words can't describe how frustrating his management is.

reds44
07-13-2008, 04:57 PM
And here comes Bill Hall.

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 04:57 PM
we could really use this game...

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Unbelievably poor management by Dusty this inning.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Dusty Baker, folks. Dusty Baker.

HokieRed
07-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Agree, Homer, I'm not at all convinced Bray is any part of the longer term solution here.

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 04:58 PM
Now Mike Lincoln in to pitch.

Is Burton out again today because I don't see how they get through this game without using Burton today.

flyer85
07-13-2008, 04:58 PM
mot of the time I am just baffled by Dusty

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 04:58 PM
I don't think I've ever seen more people slam a guy with a 2.86 ERA...

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 04:58 PM
Still was the right move. Shame Bray couldn't come through.

No way is that the right move. People don't realize that Bray just doesn't get lefties out.

reds44
07-13-2008, 04:58 PM
Lincoln needs to get out of this. I'll take the Reds in a head to head matchup vs. the Brewers pen.

Tony Cloninger
07-13-2008, 04:59 PM
You people blaming Dusty Baker are unreal....seriously....Homer was done and the pitcher does not come through.

Always Dusty...never the player....can I get you guys to make excuses for me at my work?

George Anderson
07-13-2008, 04:59 PM
I am listening to the game on XM and the Brewers announcer (I think Uecker) was amazed Dusty didn't remove Bray a batter earlier.

reds44
07-13-2008, 04:59 PM
No way is that the right move. People don't realize that Bray just doesn't get lefties out.
Fielder was 0-6 with 3 Ks. The lefty isn't who got Bray either. It was the righty.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-13-2008, 04:59 PM
No way is that the right move. People don't realize that Bray just doesn't get lefties out.

Yes, it was the right move vs. Fielder, but he should have been yanked after the walk.

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 04:59 PM
I don't think I've ever seen more people slam a guy with a 2.86 ERA...

That's why people think Bray is an effective reliever. However, I got news. He isn't.

DoogMinAmo
07-13-2008, 04:59 PM
I have no problem with Bray, but I question using him 3 games in a row when health has always been an issue. He has been quite effective of late.

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 04:59 PM
And Homer is still winless since...April?...May? Something ridiculous like that. He does seem snake-bit this season in some respects.

A shame...he certainly deserved a W here. But I still agree with the change to Bray there.

OnBaseMachine
07-13-2008, 04:59 PM
I like Bray but walking Fielder there was awful. And leaving Bray in to face Kapler was just as awful. Terrible managing.

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 05:00 PM
Lincoln vs Babe Ruth... can he do it...?

VR
07-13-2008, 05:00 PM
Unbelievably poor management by Dusty this inning.

Bailey at 100 pitches. Fielder 0-6 with 3 k's against Bray. Double switch to get Votto up second next inning, pitcher up 9th.

Really?

That inning was perfectly managed by Dusty. And I'm no fan of the man overall.

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 05:00 PM
1.52 WHIP for Bray going INTO today. Sick.

reds44
07-13-2008, 05:00 PM
Man I would seriously walk Bill Hall.

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 05:00 PM
That's why people think Bray is an effective reliever. However, I got news. He isn't.

okay... a little more info please??? ERA is pretty important last time I checked.. I'm not saying he is great, but he definitely is a serviceable, young reliever...

flyer85
07-13-2008, 05:01 PM
You people blaming Dusty Baker are unreal....seriously....Homer was done and the pitcher does not come through.

Always Dusty...never the player....can I get you guys to make excuses for me at my work?Dusty should have brought in Lincoln to pitch to Kapler

Matt700wlw
07-13-2008, 05:01 PM
tie game - bailey deserves better

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 05:01 PM
C'mon Lincoln!

redsrule2500
07-13-2008, 05:01 PM
I don't think I've ever seen more people slam a guy with a 2.86 ERA...

I love Bray.

I despise how Dusty manages people like Bray.

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 05:01 PM
okay... a little more info please??? ERA is pretty important last time I checked.. I'm not saying he is great, but he definitely is a serviceable, young reliever...

1.52 WHIP? That's terrible for a situational pitcher.

DoogMinAmo
07-13-2008, 05:02 PM
Seems like Lincoln has lost some velocity?

RedsManRick
07-13-2008, 05:02 PM
No way is that the right move. People don't realize that Bray just doesn't get lefties out.

Well, it was the hit against Kapler that did the damage and he's dominated righties. Maybe Bray wasn't the right guy, but getting Bailey out of there was the right move.

WVRedsFan
07-13-2008, 05:02 PM
Told you. Bray is so overrated.


Sooo overrated. I made the comment a couple of weeks ago about how hittable Bray was. Someone retorted with all kinds of stats showing he wasn't. I can see how hard the ball is hit off of his pitches. I wouldn't trust him with more than a four run lead. He can only pitch every other day and he's either wild or gets balls up zone for easy pickings.

He's, once again, fool's gold.

reds44
07-13-2008, 05:02 PM
I love Bray.

I despise how Dusty manages people like Bray.
Half of you are blaming Dusty for letting Bray face the righty, and the other half are saying he can't get lefties out.

So if he's not going to face righties and he can't get lefties out, then how do you want him to use him?

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 05:03 PM
Bailey at 100 pitches. Fielder 0-6 with 3 k's against Bray. Double switch to get Votto up second next inning, pitcher up 9th.

Really?

That inning was perfectly managed by Dusty. And I'm no fan of the man overall.

Bray is not even good against lefties. They hit .271 with a .375 OBP!


Then leave him in to face Kapler???? Why??

Reds Fanatic
07-13-2008, 05:03 PM
Good job by Lincoln. Hall pops out to 3rd. 2-2 after 6.

SirFelixCat
07-13-2008, 05:03 PM
VERY good job by Lincoln.

redsrule2500
07-13-2008, 05:03 PM
Sooo overrated. I made the comment a couple of weeks ago about how hittable Bray was. Someone retorted with all kinds of stats showing he wasn't. I can see how hard the ball is hit off of his pitches. I wouldn't trust him with more than a four run lead. He can only pitch every other day and he's either wild or gets balls up zone for easy pickings.

He's, once again, fool's gold.

Thanks professional Scout. I think he's a little better than that, part of his problem is being used 3 days in a row like today.

WVRedsFan
07-13-2008, 05:03 PM
okay... a little more info please??? ERA is pretty important last time I checked.. I'm not saying he is great, but he definitely is a serviceable, young reliever...

...who often lets inherited runners score...

Homer Bailey
07-13-2008, 05:03 PM
Half of you are blaming Dusty for letting Bray face the righty, and the other half are saying he can't get lefties out.

So if he's not going to face righties and he can't get lefties out, then how do you want him to use him?


In games that are not close.

reds44
07-13-2008, 05:03 PM
Mike Lincoln threw my a ball in BP yesterday. I like him.

jesusfan
07-13-2008, 05:04 PM
1.52 WHIP? That's terrible for a situational pitcher.

And Homer has a 2.11 WHIP! That's terrible for any kind of pitcher... just because he pitched great today doesn't make you blind does it? I really want Bailey to turn it around and today was a great start, but I just don't understand the argument for Bailey and against Bray when Bailey has been quite terrible this year...

_Sir_Charles_
07-13-2008, 05:04 PM
Bailey at 100 pitches. Fielder 0-6 with 3 k's against Bray. Double switch to get Votto up second next inning, pitcher up 9th.

Really?

That inning was perfectly managed by Dusty. And I'm no fan of the man overall.

Exactly. Just a poor outing by Bray. Simple as that. Bray is a good reliever overall, but it wasn't his night.