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REDSEER
07-15-2008, 10:50 AM
This most likely means the end of the Sarasota Reds and GCL Reds minor league teams. I assume that our low level rookie team will now play in the AZL, but where does that leave our A+ affiliate?

Or maybe I'm mistaken, would our teams still play in Sarasota?

Grande Donkey
07-15-2008, 10:59 AM
The sooner all Reds affiliates can get out of Sarasota the better.

JaxRed
07-15-2008, 11:41 AM
It's possible they may extend for 2 more years, but a lot depends on the Boston and Baltimore situations. If Boston gets Sarasota for Spring Training (and Sarasota is trying hard to screw it up again) then Boston will almost certainly buy the Sarasota Reds, and the Reds will need a High A franchise.

Boston owns a High A Franchise in Salem Va, (the Avalanche), so if Boston goes to Sarasota, a franchise swap makes a lot of sense.

Baltimore might also want a franchise for Vero Beach (current team moves to Port Charlotte), so they might also want to buy/move Sarasota if the Bosox thing comes unraveled.

Either way, Carolina League seems to make most sense.

Cyclone792
07-15-2008, 12:16 PM
A swap with Boston's High-A Salem franchise would be my preference. Getting another Reds farm team within close proximity to a Reds region (West Virginia, eastern Kentucky, etc.) would be a plus benefit, IMO.

OnBaseMachine
07-15-2008, 12:19 PM
A swap with Boston's High-A Salem franchise would be my preference. Getting another Reds farm team within close proximity to a Reds region (West Virginia, eastern Kentucky, etc.) would be a plus benefit, IMO.

I'm all for that!

KittyDuran
07-15-2008, 12:55 PM
Count me in for that as well! :thumbup:

redsmetz
07-15-2008, 06:26 PM
We had Potomac for a season or two, didn't we? And Charleston, WV another time?

KittyDuran
07-15-2008, 07:04 PM
We had Potomac for a season or two, didn't we? And Charleston, WV another time?Potomac (High-A) for a few seasons 2003-2004 and Charleston Wheelers (Low-A) 1990-1998.

Slyder
07-15-2008, 07:17 PM
Potomac (High-A) for a few seasons 2003-2004 and Charleston Wheelers (Low-A) 1990-1998.

If the Reds wanna come be my guest, the Brew Crew contract is up in September.

JaxRed
07-15-2008, 08:54 PM
Sarasota Reds can't go to Charleston because they are Low - A.

KittyDuran
07-15-2008, 09:09 PM
Sarasota Reds can't go to Charleston because they are Low - A.Well... they could go with 2 Low-A ballclubs like when Dayton and Clinton were both in the Midwest League.

JaxRed
07-15-2008, 10:00 PM
Actuallly no they can't. Baseball no longer allows that

Slyder
07-16-2008, 12:25 AM
with our facility Im pretty sure we could compete with High A. Or just sell the Dayton team and come back to charleston :D.

Newman4
07-16-2008, 01:49 AM
If I hit the lottery, I'll build a stadium in Huntington WV for the Reds to put a High A Carolina League team there. :thumbup:

highheat11
07-16-2008, 02:16 AM
A swap with Boston's High-A Salem franchise would be my preference. Getting another Reds farm team within close proximity to a Reds region (West Virginia, eastern Kentucky, etc.) would be a plus benefit, IMO.

Salem Avalanche are affiliated with the Astros. Although I would be all for somehow finding a way to put the Red's High-A team somewhere in within decent driving distance from Cincinnati like Dayton and Louisville already are.

Homer Bailey
07-16-2008, 02:20 AM
I'm all for that!

Take me home, country roads!

JaxRed
07-16-2008, 10:47 AM
Salem Avalanche is affiliated with Astros, but owned by Red Sox who were upset that they got stuck in California League (Lancaster) this round.

So they bought Salem with intention of not renewing the Astros and taking over franchise. If Boston goes to Sarasota, rumor is they will buy Sarasota Reds. If so they won't need Salem franchise. But Reds will need one.......

corkedbat
07-16-2008, 11:11 AM
Lexington works for me. The Legends have a great park and draw well as it is. I know it's a pipe dream, but I'm still hoping. :)

KittyDuran
07-16-2008, 01:59 PM
Lexington works for me. The Legends have a great park and draw well as it is. I know it's a pipe dream, but I'm still hoping. :)I think Lexington really wants to be in AA. Just curious (and because I can't find it on the internet) but when is the Reds contract with Chattanooga up?

KittyDuran
07-16-2008, 02:03 PM
It would be nice to have...

Rookie - Appalachian League
Low A - Dayton
High A - Carolina League
AA - Chattanooga
AAA - Louisville

Pretty much all of the farm system within a days drive. Billings is a sticky situation since the Reds have been there forever (it seems).

JaxRed
07-16-2008, 02:12 PM
Chattanooga is up after 08. The orginal word was that the Lookouts owner wanted to dump Reds, but there was article about 3 weeks ago saying they were going to re-up. I don't think they have though.

But that doesn't matter. All teams can do is rotate among AA franchises. The only way Lexington can be a AA franchise is to buy the franchise from someone else. There were 2 available recently, and Lexington either didn't try or failed to get them.

bounty37h
07-17-2008, 04:19 PM
It's possible they may extend for 2 more years, but a lot depends on the Boston and Baltimore situations. If Boston gets Sarasota for Spring Training (and Sarasota is trying hard to screw it up again) then Boston will almost certainly buy the Sarasota Reds, and the Reds will need a High A franchise.

Boston owns a High A Franchise in Salem Va, (the Avalanche), so if Boston goes to Sarasota, a franchise swap makes a lot of sense.

Baltimore might also want a franchise for Vero Beach (current team moves to Port Charlotte), so they might also want to buy/move Sarasota if the Bosox thing comes unraveled.

Either way, Carolina League seems to make most sense.

I like this possiblity the best, as I am upset they are leaving Sarasota-I go almost every year to FL, but am not going to AZ for logistical and $ reasons. I live in NC, so that would at least put a team in my backyard that I can see more often then the one trip the Bats make to Durham each season.

redsof72
07-18-2008, 02:17 PM
There are a lot of moving parts here because of the fact that Boston and Cincinnati actually own their high-A franchises and they will have to find a buyer. The Salem franchise is probably worth $6 million. The Sarasota FSL franchise would be worth much less because of its lack of profitability but when you enter in the spring training factor, that could change it. I can't imagine the Reds would want to take on ownership of the Salem franchise from Boston. Bottom line, if Boston goes to Sarasota, the Reds will probably wind up in Salem somehow.

As far as Lexington going Double-A, the only way this could happen would be if they purchased a Southern League club, probably either West Tenn or Huntsville, and moved it to Lexington. I would have serious doubts that the Southern League would agree to expand that far north, so I do not expect that to ever happen. The real question is how long it will be before you see Dayton and Lexington in the same league.