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Chip R
07-17-2008, 07:53 PM
NY Mets

J. Reyes ss
Chavez rf
D. Wright 3b
C. Beltran cf
Easley 2b
C. Delgado 1b
F. Tatis lf
B. Schneider c
J. Santana p

Cincinnati
J. Bruce cf
Keppinger ss
K. Griffey Jr. rf
Phillips 2b
A. Dunn lf
E. Encarnacion 3b
Votto 1b
D. Ross c
J. Cueto p

WVRedsFan
07-17-2008, 08:13 PM
No Patterson. He must be sick,. :)

redsfaninbsg
07-17-2008, 08:14 PM
Cueto K's Reyes.
Cueto K's Chavez.

redsfaninbsg
07-17-2008, 08:15 PM
Cueto K's Wright.

Tornon
07-17-2008, 08:15 PM
Wright K's.. this could be a fun night

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 08:16 PM
Unbelievable. Cueto was filthy that inning, just filthy. That may have been the most impressive inning by a Reds pitcher this decade.

He blew a 95 mph fastball past Reyes. Got Chavez to chase a slider that bounced two feet in front of the plate and then painted two beautiful fastballs on both corners to get ahead of Wright 0-2, then got him to chase a nasty slider in the dirt. That gives Cueto exactly 100 strikeouts on the season.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:19 PM
Bruce K's...

VR
07-17-2008, 08:19 PM
Was hoping Dusty would come out of the break with a lineup adjustment with Griffey and Dunn.
Oh well.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:20 PM
Kepp flies to left... 2 down

GAC
07-17-2008, 08:21 PM
chat is open :beerme:

GAC
07-17-2008, 08:22 PM
Was hoping Dusty would come out of the break with a lineup adjustment with Griffey and Dunn.
Oh well.

Silly wabbit, kicks are for trids. :p:

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:23 PM
Griffey grounds to Reyes... 0-0 after 1...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:26 PM
Another strikeout... 4 K's for Cueto...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:27 PM
Cueto is nasty tonight... looks like his first game against Zona...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:28 PM
Another strikeout... #5 for Cueto... keep it going!

LvJ
07-17-2008, 08:28 PM
Wow, what the hell?

LvJ
07-17-2008, 08:29 PM
Make it 6, K-ueto.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:30 PM
Delgado walks...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:31 PM
wow... that was a shot.... a long strike!

LvJ
07-17-2008, 08:32 PM
No hitter gone.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 08:32 PM
Nice 1-2 slider to Tatis but he bloops it into left center. First and third with two outs.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:32 PM
single by Tatis... Dunn lollygags to the ball and Delgado goes to 3rd...

WVRedsFan
07-17-2008, 08:33 PM
Man, he lost it fast...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:34 PM
Cueto gets out of it as Schneider flies to Bruce...

LvJ
07-17-2008, 08:35 PM
Nice 2 innings.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:35 PM
Cueto gets out of it as Schneider flies to Bruce..

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:36 PM
not sure a walk and a bloop singles means he's lost it...

PuffyPig
07-17-2008, 08:36 PM
Man, he lost it fast...

It takes quite a bad pitcher to give up a bloop single on a good pitch.....

Even the best puitcher doesn't strike out everyone.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:37 PM
fly to right... 1 down

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 08:38 PM
Hopefully Cueto can get better defense/offense behind him tonight than he had in his last start.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:38 PM
I am not seeing how we're going to score tonight... hope they fool me...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:40 PM
Dunn walks... good at-bat...

NC Reds
07-17-2008, 08:40 PM
Great AB by Adam passes without comment by George and Cowboy.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:43 PM
Edwin singles... Dunn falls trying to go to 3rd... 1st and 2nd 1 out...

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 08:44 PM
D'oh

BCubb2003
07-17-2008, 08:45 PM
Mets announcers: "It's something we always see when we play the Reds. They make boo-boos all over the place."

VR
07-17-2008, 08:46 PM
Mets announcers: "It's something we always see when we play the Reds. They make boo-boos all over the place."

ouch

TeamBoone
07-17-2008, 08:46 PM
He tripped when he stepped on the edge of second... half on/half off.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:47 PM
Votto K's... 2 down

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:51 PM
Ross with an excellent At-bat... 3-2 count

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:52 PM
Ross walks... Let's go Cueto!

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 08:52 PM
Ross walks on the 30th pitch of the inning for Santana.

Here comes Johnny.

NC Reds
07-17-2008, 08:52 PM
Rossie looked good there. If Cueto ever gets a hit, now is the time.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 08:54 PM
Cueto grounds to 1st... 0-0 end of 2...

CTA513
07-17-2008, 09:00 PM
Mets announcers: "It's something we always see when we play the Reds. They make boo-boos all over the place."

The Mets announcers always have some crap to say about other teams.
Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that one of the announcers and Reyes almost got in a fight because of something he said on air about Reyes?

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:00 PM
Santana flied out to RF on 0-2.

Reyes flies to left on the first pitch.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:00 PM
Wow. Where was that 1-2 pitch to Chavez?

VR
07-17-2008, 09:01 PM
Have to like Johann at 49 pitches.

That type of at bat gives me confidence that we have more of a 2006 David Ross on our hands. His north of 1.300 OPS for July is certainly encouraging.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:01 PM
Chavez grounds out after it looked like he struckout two pitches earlier.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:05 PM
Bruce flies out to deep CF on 3-2.

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 09:07 PM
Pimpin ain't Easley

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:07 PM
Well the Reds really helped with Santana's pitch count that inning. Bruce saw six pitches but Kepp/Griffey made him throw a total of three pitches.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:10 PM
David Wright pops out to Phillips on 0-1.

dougdirt
07-17-2008, 09:11 PM
Where was that pitch at?

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:12 PM
Cueto getting squeezed now. That 3-1 pitch to Beltran was on the corner, ump decides to call it a ball. Goodness.

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 09:12 PM
Cueto getting squeezed.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:13 PM
Easley bounces back to Cueto. Two outs as Beltran advances to second.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:16 PM
Delgado homers on 3-1. Why not just walk him and face the right hander?

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 09:16 PM
stupid delgado.

GAC
07-17-2008, 09:18 PM
That was a bomb onto the walkway behind the bullpen. Wow!

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:18 PM
I could see that homerun coming from a mile away once he fell behind 2-1 and 3-1. Why not walk him with Tatis on deck?

Tatis K's.

CTA513
07-17-2008, 09:20 PM
I could see that homerun coming from a mile away once he fell behind 2-1 and 3-1. Why not walk him with Tatis on deck?

Tatis K's.

Cueto was having a hard time with the sun and just left a hanger right down the middle.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:20 PM
After falling behind 3-1 on Delgado you make him chase something and try to make him get himself out. Don't give him something decent to hit with a right hander on deck. Geez.

Kc61
07-17-2008, 09:21 PM
I could see that homerun coming from a mile away once he fell behind 2-1 and 3-1. Why not walk him with Tatis on deck?

Tatis K's.


Agree, not a smart pitch. Should have just walked him. Hopefully as he matures Cueto won't force the issue against powerful, hot lefty hitters.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:21 PM
Phillips swings at a 2-0 pitch that was down and in and pops out. Good grief Brandon, you're ahead 2-0 not behind 0-2.

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 09:22 PM
Dunner!

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:22 PM
Dunn homers!

2-1 Mets.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:23 PM
EdE homers!

2-2.

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 09:23 PM
Edwin! Tied game!

Kc61
07-17-2008, 09:24 PM
The good EE has been playing the last few weeks. Would love to see him keep it up for the rest of the season.

NC Reds
07-17-2008, 09:24 PM
Three good AB's in a row.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:25 PM
Votto singles.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 09:27 PM
Ross giving good ab's tonight...

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 09:29 PM
When did David Ross decide to be decent again?

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 09:30 PM
c'mon get it down Cueto...

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:30 PM
Ross walked.

btw that homerun was EdE's 16th of the year, tying his career high.

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 09:34 PM
Yeah!

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:34 PM
Bruce doubles, Ross scores. Cueto holds at third.

3-2 Reds.

NC Reds
07-17-2008, 09:34 PM
I'm surprised Cueto did not score on that. Ball was smoked though.

Kc61
07-17-2008, 09:36 PM
I'm surprised Cueto did not score on that. Ball was smoked though.

Reds don't need Cueto sliding on close contact play at the plate. Better to be conservative with him as the baserunner.

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 09:37 PM
Country Kepp delivers!

NC Reds
07-17-2008, 09:37 PM
Country Kepp delivers!!!

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:37 PM
Kepp 2-run triple!

5-2 Reds.

NC Reds
07-17-2008, 09:37 PM
Country Kepp delivers!

Great minds think alike. :)

VR
07-17-2008, 09:37 PM
I like baseball.

Kc61
07-17-2008, 09:38 PM
Against the lefty, can't think of a better Red to have up in that spot than Kepp. You knew with two strikes he would still hit the ball someplace. Terrific at bat for Jeff.

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 09:38 PM
Great minds think alike. :)
Indeed, my friend.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:40 PM
Griffey flies out.

5-2 Reds after four innings.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:43 PM
Cueto walks Schneider on four pitches. That's exactly what you don't want to do after a big inning by the offense.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:44 PM
Evans singles. Cueto is starting to leave his pitches up.

NC Reds
07-17-2008, 09:48 PM
I think this may be the key to the game here. Get out of this inning and we're in good shape.

NC Reds
07-17-2008, 09:49 PM
Oh well. 5-4 now.

Blitz Dorsey
07-17-2008, 09:50 PM
Anytime Adam Dunn's strengths and weaknesses are discussed, please make sure to remember his extremely weak throwing arm, which just boggles my mind. Big guy, could throw the football well. Throws a baseball like a gir, er, not very well.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:51 PM
Lead off walks to scrub hitters like Brian Schneider will always kill ya.

I hate when Reds pitchers run the bases because it seems like they always give up runs the next inning.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 09:53 PM
okay... up 1... we're okay... Even though we hit him well Santana gone is a blessing...

Blitz Dorsey
07-17-2008, 09:53 PM
I could almost live with Dunn's lack of range and his tendency to misjudge balls if he had a cannon for an arm. Or even an average arm for an MLB OF.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 09:53 PM
Cueto was locating everything the first two or three innings but he completely lost command the last two innings and has paid for it. Walking a sub .700 OPS hitter to begin an inning is just asking for trouble.

Beltran popped out to end the inning.

Tony Cloninger
07-17-2008, 09:54 PM
The runner tripped over 3rd and Dunn still could not get him?

he had a good arm when he came up....and played RF with it.

Blitz Dorsey
07-17-2008, 09:54 PM
I guess the main thing we need to remember here is that Johnny Cueto out-pitched Johan Santana tonight. Not too shabby.

Blitz Dorsey
07-17-2008, 09:55 PM
Only second time in last four years that Santana has left a game with 4 or fewer IP. Only 10th time in his career.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 09:55 PM
How can a guy 6-6 260 lbs have a bad arm... That is hard to do... his arm speed must be terribly slow...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 09:56 PM
BP singles... nice start...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 09:56 PM
Pedro will not pitch Sunday... Pelfrey will take his place...

Blitz Dorsey
07-17-2008, 09:57 PM
Hope the wedding and honeymoon went well bud!

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 09:57 PM
Hope the wedding and honeymoon went well bud!

me right? lol

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 09:57 PM
Dunn flies to left... 1 down

Blitz Dorsey
07-17-2008, 09:57 PM
Dunn is hitting lasers even when he gets outs these days.

VR
07-17-2008, 09:58 PM
How can a guy 6-6 260 lbs have a bad arm... That is hard to do... his arm speed must be terribly slow...

It's weird...I remember him absolutely gunning a couple of people down in his first year, playing right.

Blitz Dorsey
07-17-2008, 09:58 PM
me right? lol

Yezzir

Blitz Dorsey
07-17-2008, 09:59 PM
It's weird...I remember him absolutely gunning a couple of people down in his first year, playing right.

Nah, you just drank a lot before that game if I recall correctly. ;-)

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:00 PM
Yezzir

Everything went great! Pigeon Forge/ Gatlinburg is a good time...

We even caught a Tenn. Smokies game one night... That is the Cubs AA team by the way... I was wearing my Reds gear and that was the night the Reds and Cubs were playing at Wrigley... Tyler Colvin is struggling badly, he was supposed to be their top prospect, but he made contact once in 4 AB's, that was a laser double off the wall though...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:01 PM
Phillips is almost as dumb as Freel..

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 10:02 PM
Man oh man.

Phillips on sound with one out. First EdE swings at a 2-0 pitch at his ankles and grounds to SS, and Phillips is nailed at third.

This team swing at so many bad 2-0 pitches it's not even funny.

VR
07-17-2008, 10:02 PM
Nah, you just drank a lot before that game if I recall correctly. ;-)

You're wrong

Adam Guillen had a monster arm out there, I remember it well. :all_cohol

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:03 PM
Votto K's... end of 5... 5-4 Reds

VR
07-17-2008, 10:05 PM
Cueto destined to go only 6 innings with his spot coming up 2nd next inning.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:06 PM
pop to Edwin... 1 down

NC Reds
07-17-2008, 10:08 PM
Griffey botched that.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 10:08 PM
What the hell was Griffey doing? Good grief. That ball should have been caught.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:08 PM
Delgado singles to right...why does the one guy on every team hitting the worst on the season always kill us?

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 10:09 PM
Tatis homers. Cueto hung a slider.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:09 PM
Only Cueto can turn a great game into a horrific game... 6-5 Mets

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 10:10 PM
That's amazing that's a homerun. That looked like a routine flyball off the bat.

CTA513
07-17-2008, 10:10 PM
Can't blame the bats tonight.
They gave the Reds a 5-2 lead and Cueto blew it.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 10:10 PM
That other run belongs to Griffey. Unbelievable. I love the guy but he's easily the worst defensive player in baseball.

WVRedsFan
07-17-2008, 10:10 PM
Cueto struck out the first 5 and from there on it was a nightmare. Rookie showing.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:12 PM
This is a game that symbolizes the reds... pitching on, hitting off..... hitting on, pitching off... mostly that is the way it goes... sign of a losing team. Personally, I think we can at least finish at .500, but a lot of things have to go right for that to happen...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:13 PM
And it's not the ballpark's fault... we hit in the same park the opponent does!

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 10:13 PM
Cueto had poor command after the third inning and it killed him. I'm still amazed that ball left the park. Unreal. And I'm still amazed that Griffey didn't catch that ball. I have no idea what he was thinking there.

GAC
07-17-2008, 10:13 PM
Dusty should have jerked him when the guy got on base IMHO.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:14 PM
liner right at Votto... 2 down

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:16 PM
Affeldt K's Evans... nice job... 6-5 Mets mid 6...

Tony Cloninger
07-17-2008, 10:16 PM
Why? It was not his fault Griffey botched that ball..... He might as well have yanked him after the pitch to Wright. That upset me more. He was looking first pitch fastball...Ross set up outside.

OBM was on in regards to him losing his command.

WVRedsFan
07-17-2008, 10:17 PM
[NM

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:17 PM
If I were the GM of this baseball team I would not change the bullpen much at all for next season...

RedlegJake
07-17-2008, 10:18 PM
Cueto is just a kid yet...flashes of amazing ability and then several mistakes...the day is coming when his 1st and 2nd inning is what you'll see for 6-7 innings every time out

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:18 PM
We're still going to win this game...

Kc61
07-17-2008, 10:18 PM
Dusty should have jerked him when the guy got on base IMHO.

Just logged on to see how this is Dusty's fault. Now I know.

WVRedsFan
07-17-2008, 10:19 PM
If I were the GM of this baseball team I would not change the bullpen much at all for next season...I think Affeldt is a FA after this year and probably will require a premium. Weathers also. Might be a tough job, but they have done well this year.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 10:20 PM
I don't mind the rookies struggles from the kid pitchers. That is to be expected. It's the baserunning blunders, bad 2-0 swings, and awful defense that frustrates the heck out of me.

redsfaninbsg
07-17-2008, 10:20 PM
Games like tonight are frustrating, score that much on Santana and to give the lead up in the 6th..... With the way the Mets bullpen has been pitching of late the Reds better get the bats going if they are going to win this one.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:20 PM
You know AAA baseball is a joke when Jon Adkins makes an all-star team...

WVRedsFan
07-17-2008, 10:21 PM
Probably right. It's a shame. I wonder if Cueto's temper gets in the way sometimes?

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 10:21 PM
That 3-2 looked low on Ross. Like Brantley said, that's been a ball all night.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:22 PM
C'mon Phillips..

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:23 PM
Andy singles to center... c'mon Bruce!

NC Reds
07-17-2008, 10:23 PM
Good AB by A. Phillips.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:23 PM
Lefty coming in to face Bruce... They have 3 so we'll be seeing them tonight...

Raisor
07-17-2008, 10:27 PM
Good AB by A. Phillips.

A Phillips?

Which one? Brandon or Andy?

*rimshot*

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:27 PM
Bruce K's...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:28 PM
Another Kepp triple would be nice...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:28 PM
Feliciano is nasty..

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:29 PM
Not much mention about Keppinger facing his former team that gave up on him...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:29 PM
single by kepp... 1st and 2nd with Griffey vs Feliciano... uh oh...

NC Reds
07-17-2008, 10:29 PM
I would love for Griffey to have a huge AB here. We need it.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:30 PM
C'mon Griff... need ya!

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:32 PM
Griffey leaves runners on... not surprised at all... 6-5 Mets after 6...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:44 PM
Lincoln has been huge lately! mid 7... 6-5 Mets

Kc61
07-17-2008, 10:45 PM
Lincoln has been good.

Frustrating game so far tonight, maybe Reds can turn it around.

RedFanAlways1966
07-17-2008, 10:47 PM
Entering tonight's game...
* The '08 REDS have scored 5 or more runs in a game 39 times. They have a 31-8 (.795) record in those games

Keep in mind...
* The '08 REDS have a 27-4 (.871) record in games in which they score 6 or more runs.

Score...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:47 PM
BP, Dunn, Edwin... c'mon!

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:48 PM
Phillips grounds to short... 1 down

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:49 PM
Dunn grounds out... 2 down

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:51 PM
Edwin doubles to left... c'mon Votto... tie er up!

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:52 PM
Votto IBB... 1st and 2nd...

redsfaninbsg
07-17-2008, 10:53 PM
Dusty...........

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:54 PM
Ross stays up.. not going to one of the lefties...

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 10:55 PM
I prefer Ross over Valentin or Bako.

Tony Cloninger
07-17-2008, 10:56 PM
Please don't start with the...Dusty...stuff again.
I would rather have Ross...than patterson....Bako and even Valentin.

Ross has been a hot hitter and those other 3 are not exactly Jim Dwyer or Lenny Harris.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:56 PM
3-2 to Ross... c'mon! runners will be moving...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:56 PM
Ross walks... who will we see?

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:57 PM
Big Valbowski coming on... Manual going to Schonweis.... Jolbert maybe? He has already killed another New York team...

Tony Cloninger
07-17-2008, 10:57 PM
Now I would go with Valentin.....since they can counter a lefty for Bako and CP...who suck no matter who is pitching.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 10:57 PM
Now I'd go to Cabrera.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 10:59 PM
Val hitting right handed... c'mon! He will walk people...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:00 PM
Huge AB right here!

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:00 PM
why guess all the time????

redsfaninbsg
07-17-2008, 11:00 PM
Valentin tried to hit one out of the country on that swing.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:00 PM
should be 2-0

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:00 PM
Should have brought Cabrera in.

Valentin of course chases ball 1 on the first pitch.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:01 PM
37 IP, 19 K's is a strike out machine???

redsfaninbsg
07-17-2008, 11:01 PM
Feed goes out with bases loaded.... What a great game.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:02 PM
2-2

redsfaninbsg
07-17-2008, 11:02 PM
Damn DirectTV, they set the HD feed up to last until 10.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:02 PM
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Love You Javy!!!!

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:02 PM
Valentin comes through!!!

3-run double!

8-6 Reds.

RedFanAlways1966
07-17-2008, 11:02 PM
YES! 3-run double to RC by Javy!!

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:03 PM
Damn DirectTV, they set the HD feed up to last until 10.

Dish Network Da Bomb!!! Not really, it sucks too....

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:03 PM
Still didn't like the decision but he proved me wrong. Nice!

dougdirt
07-17-2008, 11:03 PM
JAVY!

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:03 PM
GREAT JOB DUSTY! Hey, it works both ways! lol

SMcGavin
07-17-2008, 11:04 PM
37 IP, 19 K's is a strike out machine???

HAHA I know. I couldn't even focus on the next pitch because my mind was trying to register that brilliant statement from George.

And what a great job by Javy.

RedFanAlways1966
07-17-2008, 11:05 PM
Valentin's first game this year with 2 or more RBIs in a game.

Tony Cloninger
07-17-2008, 11:05 PM
Valentin may not be great or even good against RH....but the other guy has not seen major league pitching in a while.

Yes...it was bad guessing (BIG surprise that a Reds hitter guesses)...but he can still work the count pretty good when he wants to.

LOL....Grande....SS is not a K machine...Brantley even said he did not have that many strikeouts. Jeepers what a dolt.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:06 PM
HAHA I know. I couldn't even focus on the next pitch because my mind was trying to register that brilliant statement from George.

And what a great job by Javy.

I sometimes wonder if George is even a baseball guy... I know he has been in it a long time, but he could just be a good speaker that happens to make a lot of money calling games... He just makes statements that are utterly crazy sometimes...

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:06 PM
I would feel much more comfortable if Burton was pitching the 8th. He's not available tonight so it will be Weathers, sadly.

Kc61
07-17-2008, 11:07 PM
Next time you read a thread about how worthless Javy is, how he's really not a good pinch hitter, how he can't hit righty (he hardly gets a chance, actually), how the Reds should just dump him -- remember that at bat. Thank you.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:07 PM
Grande did win a College World Series at USC... but he sure doesn't act like it...

Tony Cloninger
07-17-2008, 11:08 PM
KC.....Javy can come through from time to time....but i still feel there are better options around the majors...to get.

Not JV fault that he is the best PH option on a weak bench...but he would only be a No. 2 or 3 option if Patterson and Phillips were not on this team.

Kc61
07-17-2008, 11:08 PM
I would feel much more comfortable if Burton was pitching the 8th. He's not available tonight so it will be Weathers, sadly.


Weathers for one inning should be ok. He's pitched well when given a little rest and confined to one inning. Dusty probably should get Cordero up just in case. He can get four outs for Reds if needed.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:09 PM
Next time you read a thread about how worthless Javy is, how he's really not a good pinch hitter, how he can't hit righty (he hardly gets a chance, actually), how the Reds should just dump him -- remember that at bat. Thank you.

One AB doesn't make a career.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:10 PM
Almost a great play by Phillips but throws it away... Easley to 2nd...

RedFanAlways1966
07-17-2008, 11:10 PM
REDS have a 15-1 record when scoring 8 or more runs.

>> Only loss was a 12-9 loss May 25 at San Diego... the 18-inning game.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:10 PM
Actually Votto should have caught that ball..

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:11 PM
Weathers vs Delgado... I don't like...

Kc61
07-17-2008, 11:11 PM
One AB doesn't make a career.

I guess that's a fair comment. Javy's had one good at bat. Sure.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:12 PM
Weathers K's Delgado! 1 down

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:13 PM
I guess that's a fair comment. Javy's had one good at bat. Sure.

He's got a career .704 OPS including .590 this season.

SMcGavin
07-17-2008, 11:14 PM
Next time you read a thread about how worthless Javy is, how he's really not a good pinch hitter, how he can't hit righty (he hardly gets a chance, actually), how the Reds should just dump him -- remember that at bat. Thank you.

When Javy eventually leaves the Reds I'll remember him the same way I remember Reggie Taylor... a guy who wasn't very good, who I never wanted to see at the plate, but who had a few huge hits that always made me feel bad for doubting him.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:15 PM
Weathers walks Tatis... Guys, can't we all just get along?

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:15 PM
When Javy eventually leaves the Reds I'll remember him the same way I remember Reggie Taylor... a guy who wasn't very good, who I never wanted to see at the plate, but who had a few huge hits that always made me feel bad for doubting him.

Much like Dunn does to me about once a week... lol j/k

SMcGavin
07-17-2008, 11:15 PM
Two men on now. Come on Weathers...

Tony Cloninger
07-17-2008, 11:16 PM
Tatis hits DW hard....so he said why bother......Weathers pitches backwards more than any pitcher i can remember.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:16 PM
I'd get Cordero ready if another batter reaches base.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:17 PM
Weathers K's Scheider! Big K! 2 down

dougdirt
07-17-2008, 11:17 PM
Dare I say that pitch by Weathers was nasty?

Kc61
07-17-2008, 11:17 PM
He's got a career .704 OPS including .590 this season.


Those numbers mean little. Javy has never played regularly. He often pinch hits against tough relievers in the late innings. He's often called upon after several days of inactivity.

He's a guy who very often hits the ball hard in key spots. He's been a good contributor to the Reds and, frankly, I generally shut off RedsZone when people fail to appreciate his contributions.

Same way I feel about Weathers, regardless of the outcome tonight.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:18 PM
We have to get this guy... don't wanna face Reyes this inning...

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:18 PM
Where was that 0-1 pitch?

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:18 PM
Nice job by Weathers. 8-6 after 7 1/2.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:18 PM
I must say Weathers has been great lately... another nice outing! He is definitely shooting up that trade value...

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 11:19 PM
Stormy upping his trade value.

RedFanAlways1966
07-17-2008, 11:19 PM
Had me sweating but Weathers scrapes through the inning without any damage.

:thumbup:

SMcGavin
07-17-2008, 11:20 PM
Dare I say that pitch by Weathers was nasty?

Yes it was. BTW that was Weathers' first two strikeout outing since May 16

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:20 PM
Let's add on!

Kc61
07-17-2008, 11:21 PM
Stormy upping his trade value.


If I ran a contender I would definitely go for Weathers. But I don't see the Reds getting a meaningful return. I'd rather let him pitch out the season than give Stormy away.

I assumed Stormy would retire after this year, but he's done very well lately. He won't be a Red next year, but who knows if he will catch on with somebody for one more go around.

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 11:23 PM
If I ran a contender I would definitely go for Weathers. But I don't see the Reds getting a meaningful return. I'd rather let him pitch out the season than give Stormy away.

I assumed Stormy would retire after this year, but he's done very well lately. He won't be a Red next year, but who knows if he will catch on with somebody for one more go around.
Unless he decides to retire or the wheels come completely off someone will give him a spot on their 40 man next year.

PuffyPig
07-17-2008, 11:23 PM
The Reds have 4 hitters in the lineup tonight with OPS's over .800.

They are hitting 5-8 in the lineup.

SMcGavin
07-17-2008, 11:24 PM
Griffey double. Is it just me or it Tatis awful in right field?

RedFanAlways1966
07-17-2008, 11:25 PM
Some cushion and a non-save opportunity in the 9th will work fine for me.

VR
07-17-2008, 11:27 PM
Griffey double. Is it just me or it Tatis awful in right field?

He's bad, but Griffey is awfuller.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:28 PM
Cordero will earn this save.. Reyes, PH, Wright...

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:28 PM
The Reds have 4 hitters in the lineup tonight with OPS's over .800.

They are hitting 5-8 in the lineup.

Yep. It's ridiculous.

BTW I would bring Patterson in to play CF and move Bruce to RF.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:31 PM
Taking Dunn out for Patterson is dumb. Patterson should replace Griffey with Bruce moving to RF.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:31 PM
CoCo K's Reyes!!!

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:32 PM
4-3 Cards... runner on 2nd for Pads in the top of 9... just scored a run on a double...

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:33 PM
some dude singles... c'mon Coco

Homer Bailey
07-17-2008, 11:33 PM
Taking Dunn out for Patterson is dumb. Patterson should replace Griffey with Bruce moving to RF.

That would be disrespectful.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:34 PM
Freakin Home-Run! wow!

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:34 PM
Tie game. Amazing.

Already the 5th blown save for Cordero.

Homer Bailey
07-17-2008, 11:34 PM
$8 Million.

Tom Servo
07-17-2008, 11:34 PM
I hate you, David Wright.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:35 PM
look at this... single, hr, single...

Falls City Beer
07-17-2008, 11:35 PM
Tie game. Amazing.

Already the 5th blown save for Cordero.

Wayne taketh away.

CTA513
07-17-2008, 11:35 PM
Pitching blows another lead.

redsfaninbsg
07-17-2008, 11:35 PM
Another situation where Dunn will not play the 9th/extra innings.

OnBaseMachine
07-17-2008, 11:36 PM
Argenis Reyes has awful plate discipline. Yet Cordero threw him a hittable 1-2 fastball. I'll never understand it.

Joseph
07-17-2008, 11:36 PM
Even the good ones blow one now and then. Tonight the balls jumping.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2008, 11:36 PM
Another situation where Dunn will not play the 9th/extra innings.

50 million should get the door closed. Not the Reds.

jesusfan
07-17-2008, 11:36 PM
what a disapointment this game would be if we find a way to lose it...