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MWM
07-17-2008, 08:00 PM
No Tiger? Who the hell cares, it's still a major and I'm watching with as much passion as ever.

Me, I would LOVE to see Rocco pull this one off. I don't see any reason why he can't do it either with a tie for the lead after Day 1. Roberty Allency has been knocking on the door for a while, so he's a solid contender.

But the big story is obviously Greg Norman. I don't think he has a snowballs chance in hades of being in contention on Sunday, but it makes for a great story on Day 1.

I would put my money on Adam Scott, but I've done that several times in the past only to have him fall flat.

And we can't forget about Sergio only 3 shots off the lead.

Should be a fun weekend.

Highlifeman21
07-17-2008, 09:00 PM
Brutal conditions over there today.

Phil putting up a big number warmed my heart, and brought a smile to my face.

Els putting up a bigger number reversed all the joy brought to me by Phil's slightly less big number.

paintmered
07-17-2008, 09:02 PM
Rich Beem, former PGA Champion rolled in with a 46 on the front and called it quits. Plenty of quality players had rough goes of it out there.

George Foster
07-18-2008, 12:37 AM
I would love to see Rocco win it, and for him to be a "pick" for the Ryder Cup team. He hits a lot of fairways and greens.

Redhook
07-18-2008, 09:00 AM
I would love to see Norman win it. It's a nice story and will bring in some extra interest without Tiger being there.

Royal Birkdale is a good course, not a great one in my opinion. I caddied there for the 2005 LPGA British Open. I wouldn't pay to play it.

Highlifeman21
07-18-2008, 11:12 AM
I would love to see Norman win it. It's a nice story and will bring in some extra interest without Tiger being there.

Royal Birkdale is a good course, not a great one in my opinion. I caddied there for the 2005 LPGA British Open. I wouldn't pay to play it.

IMO, easily the worst track for The Open.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-18-2008, 11:48 AM
Villegas with a 65.

Damn.

RFS62
07-18-2008, 02:39 PM
Holy Cheeseburger, Batman!!!!

David Duval found his way back to Hardees.

George Foster
07-18-2008, 10:44 PM
Holy Cheeseburger, Batman!!!!

David Duval found his way back to Hardees.

If you remember, he was a little pudgy when he was ranked #1 in the world. He then went on a diet and weight lifting program and lost like 25-30 pounds. As a result he went from being #1 in the world to playing only on Thursday and Friday. He totally lost it. He has gained his weight back and... is playing well.

Does one have anything to do with the other? I don't know but when Jack was in his prime, he had a little tummy as well. Make of it what you want.

Redhook
07-18-2008, 10:56 PM
If you remember, he was a little pudgy when he was ranked #1 in the world. He then went on a diet and weight lifting program and lost like 25-30 pounds. As a result he went from being #1 in the world to playing only on Thursday and Friday. He totally lost it. He has gained his weight back and... is playing well.

Does one have anything to do with the other? I don't know but when Jack was in his prime, he had a little tummy as well. Make of it what you want.

His weight does fluctuate a lot. I thought he went overboard a few years back with his fitness regimen and diet. He looked like an anorexic for awhile there.

That being said, his weight loss had absolutely nothing to do with his struggles on the course. He developed an injury and that led him to alter his swing. That alteration led to the driver yips - the kiss of death. The driver yips cause players to quit golf (Seve, Ian-Baker Finch, and plenty of others). I know this because I used to suffer from it. It's awful. It took me years to get over it and now it seems that Duval has as well. I wish him well.

Caveat Emperor
07-18-2008, 11:48 PM
I'm not going to lie -- I still own a Greg Norman "shark life" t-shirt that I bought on sale at a Hechts in 1996 (one of the best made and most comfortable t-shirt's I've ever owned, for that matter).

I'm pulling for Norman. It'd be a damn good story.

Kingspoint
07-19-2008, 12:13 AM
It's going to be fun to check out tomorrow.

Go Norman, Duval, and Rocco!

SunDeck
07-19-2008, 08:18 AM
His weight does fluctuate a lot. I thought he went overboard a few years back with his fitness regimen and diet. He looked like an anorexic for awhile there.

That being said, his weight loss had absolutely nothing to do with his struggles on the course. He developed an injury and that led him to alter his swing. That alteration led to the driver yips - the kiss of death. The driver yips cause players to quit golf (Seve, Ian-Baker Finch, and plenty of others). I know this because I used to suffer from it. It's awful. It took me years to get over it and now it seems that Duval has as well. I wish him well.

What exactly are the driver yips? I mean for a pro, not one of us normal people for whom hitting a driver is an exercise in embarrassment.

MaineRed
07-19-2008, 09:21 AM
It is interesting when you look back at the past Birkdale Opens:

The first and the third were won by Peter Thompson who won a total of 5 British Opens. The second Open held at RB was won by Arnold Palmer who won 8 majors, including 2 British. The fourth was won by Lee Trevino a man with 6 majors, including 2 British. The next Open held at Birkdale was won by Johnny Miller, a man with 2 Majors. In 83 Tom Watson, 8 time major winner and 5 time British winner, won there.In 91 there was an anomaly as Ian Baker Finch won but in 1998 Mark O'Meara validated his Masters win by winning at Birkdale.

The 8 previous Birkdale champions have an average of 4 major wins and over 2 British Open titles.

If Tiger was there he would obviously be the logical choice to join this list. It would be his 4th Open and his 15th major. But with him gone, who is it? I thought about it before the event because I was entering a British Open pool. I figured on guys like Els and Goosen or maybe a Furyk, guys who had won previous Majors and in Ernie's case, a previous Open. But what about Norman? Forgetting about the age his name would be a perfect match to go with those other Birkdale champions. A win would give Norman his third Open Championship.

Redhook
07-19-2008, 09:27 AM
What exactly are the driver yips? I mean for a pro, not one of us normal people for whom hitting a driver is an exercise in embarrassment.

The driver yips are like the putting yips swinging 115-120 miles per hours. I'm sure everyone who plays golf on this board has yipped a putt or two. You get a little nervous and flinch at impact. Well, this can happen to the full swing too. It's the worst feeling in the world. When you yip a putt, you lose one shot. When you yip a driver, you're lucky to find your ball. And there's no cure for it. There's no claw grip, long putter, belly putter, etc. You have to fight through it. It can be debilitating.

I can honestly say I yipped my driver from 2002 -2007. It's why I stopped playing full time. I couldn't compete hitting 2-3 balls out of play per round. I'm finally over it and I'm shooting in the 60's again. It's nice. Golf is fun again.

The way I learned to cure it was to learn how to release the club again. I started aiming right and forced myself to play a draw. When I yipped it, I was holding on for dear life. I would hit it low left and high right. So, I started playing big draws to take out one side of the course. Eventually, it worked and now I don't have to curve it as much.

I would love to see Duval win this week. Or Norman. I'm looking forward to watching some of it this weekend.

Highlifeman21
07-19-2008, 11:01 AM
Wind is GUSTING there today.

I'm getting a kick out of watching everyone's pants look like a damn flag.

Nothing says "I'm playing in The British Open" like hitting everything you've got into a 40+ mph wind.

Redhook
07-19-2008, 02:32 PM
Yep, those conditions are brutal. Great if you're Anthony Kim or Ben Curtis. It's going to be anyone's game tomorrow.

Hoosier Red
07-19-2008, 02:54 PM
Norman seems to be handling the "brutal" conditions okay.

In other news Michelle Wie is leading the State Farm classic on the LPGA tour.
She may never be as good as she once was hyped to be, but hopefully the days of her regularly threatening to put up numbers that would make John Daly blush are over.

George Foster
07-19-2008, 11:58 PM
I think 4 or 5 over will win it. With that being said, I don't think anybody close to Norman will shoot par or better. So if Norman can shoot 2 or 3 over par, he should win it. Does he have one more good round left in him or will it be another Norman sunday meltdown? I can't wait! I'm rootin' for Norman.

Gainesville Red
07-20-2008, 12:04 AM
In other news Michelle Wie is leading the State Farm classic on the LPGA tour.


D'oh!

Jack Burton
07-20-2008, 07:20 PM
Congrats to Padraig on winning the British, back to back.

Highlifeman21
07-20-2008, 09:20 PM
I was rooting for pink pants Poulter, but I was happy to see Harrington win back to back.

I would have lost money betting he'd go 4 under on the back to win by 4.

As for Norman, what can I say? He had 3 solid rounds, and then he and his caddie couldn't figure out a way to keep the driver in the bag today, and I lost count of how many bunkers he found off the tee.

Redhook
07-20-2008, 10:52 PM
I was rooting for pink pants Poulter, but I was happy to see Harrington win back to back.

I would have lost money betting he'd go 4 under on the back to win by 4.

As for Norman, what can I say? He had 3 solid rounds, and then he and his caddie couldn't figure out a way to keep the driver in the bag today, and I lost count of how many bunkers he found off the tee.

I really wanted Norman to win. You're right about the driver. What were they thinking? Pi**-poor course management, especially when he was nervous as all get-out and pulling most of his shots.

Padraig was solid. Very boring to watch but he's a really good guy. I don't mind him winning at all.

Highlifeman21
07-21-2008, 12:17 AM
Yep, those conditions are brutal. Great if you're Anthony Kim or Ben Curtis. It's going to be anyone's game tomorrow.

If only Anthony Kim could have putted....

IMO, he hit it the best of anyone the whole week.

SunDeck
07-21-2008, 11:22 PM
I really wanted Norman to win. You're right about the driver. What were they thinking? Pi**-poor course management, especially when he was nervous as all get-out and pulling most of his shots.

Padraig was solid. Very boring to watch but he's a really good guy. I don't mind him winning at all.

Yep, that back nine he turned in put me to sleep.