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Red in Chicago
07-18-2008, 07:48 PM
Mets:
Reyes ss
Anderson lf
Wright 3b
Beltran cf
Easley 2b
Delgado 1b
Tatis rf
Schneider c
Maine p

Reds:
Bruce cf
Keppinger ss
Griffey rf
Phillips 2b
Dunn lf
Encarncion 3b
Votto 1b
Bako c
Arroyo p

jesusfan
07-18-2008, 07:50 PM
How about we win tonight!

Red in Chicago
07-18-2008, 07:57 PM
How about we win tonight!

Mets have to lose eventually;)

Tony Cloninger
07-18-2008, 08:03 PM
It all hinges on Dusty baker doing any double switches.....especially in the 9th....if this does not happen and they still lose, well then it's Bob Boone's fault.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 08:12 PM
For those of you with DirecTV, the game is on in beautiful HD on channel 625 if you don't listening to the enemy's announcers.

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 08:13 PM
Nice start to the game.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 08:17 PM
Arroyo gets em 1-2-3 and Bruce leads off with a hit. So far, so good.

Falls City Beer
07-18-2008, 08:17 PM
How many runs does Arroyo surrender tonight? I'll say 5 in 4 1/3 innings.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 08:19 PM
5 in 6.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 08:19 PM
Arroyo will allow 2 ER in 7 IP.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 08:21 PM
Arroyo will allow 2 ER in 7 IP.


Optimist :)

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 08:24 PM
Phillips is not a clean up hitter against righties. Sorry, had to beat a dead horse at least once tonight. Go Reds!

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 08:24 PM
Phillips has the worst bat discipline on the team. Three pitches and three swings, all 3 balls.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 08:25 PM
It's time to end the Griffey in #3 hole nonsense. I'd be moving Votto up to third and go with a lineup of:

Keppinger/Bruce
Bruce/Kepp
Votto
Dunn
Phillips
EdE/Griff
Griffey/EdE
Ross

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 08:27 PM
It's time to end the Griffey in #3 hole nonsense. I'd be moving Votto up to third and go with a lineup of:

Keppinger/Bruce
Bruce/Kepp
Votto
Dunn
Phillips
EdE/Griff
Griffey/EdE
Ross

Looks good. Dusty would never do it, but I like it.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 08:28 PM
NY announcers say that Barry Zito. Arroyo and Maine are the top three pitchers in pitches per inning--Arroyo's second at 18.4 and Zito at 18.7. Maine slightly below that.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 08:29 PM
Another outstanding catch by Phillips.

RedsManRick
07-18-2008, 08:31 PM
EE and Votto's OBP that low in the order, behind Phillips and ahead of Votto in particular, really makes me sad.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 08:31 PM
Arroyo has retired the first six.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 08:32 PM
3 up 3 down in the second for Bronson. No score heading to the bottom of the second.

RedsManRick
07-18-2008, 08:35 PM
Strike called against Dunn that was literally a foot outside. Going to a quick, low scoring game if that keeps up.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 08:37 PM
Now that bugs the heck out of me. 2-0 count on EdE and he swings at a fastball on the outside part of the plate and pulls a groundball to SS. Way too often does this team take weak swings on 2-0 pitches.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 08:41 PM
Tatis singles but Dunn throws him out trying to turn it into a double.

dougdirt
07-18-2008, 08:43 PM
Joey Votto nearly tackled the ump making that play

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 08:44 PM
Schneider grounded out and Maine struckout. Arroyo has faced the minimum through three innings.

dougdirt
07-18-2008, 08:47 PM
Bako with some bad luck as he hits one up the middle that hits the pitchers foot, goes to 2B and he is thrown out at 1st.

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 08:52 PM
That was a freakish home run. Wow.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 08:52 PM
Bruce homers on the 9th pitch of the atbat!

1-0 Reds.

dougdirt
07-18-2008, 08:52 PM
Jay Bruce literally just reached out and slapped a HR into the gap in R/C

Red in Chicago
07-18-2008, 08:54 PM
the best part about the home run is that it got george to actually talk about what was happening in the game for 20 seconds instead of non stop jibberish

jesusfan
07-18-2008, 08:56 PM
How in the world did he hit that ball out... that's freakish!

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 08:56 PM
I'm still stunned about that home run. That was not a swing that was supposed to produce a bomb.

toledodan
07-18-2008, 08:56 PM
Jay Bruce literally just reached out and slapped a HR into the gap in R/C



met anouncers crying about jay's homerun. they must have a short memory!:D

dougdirt
07-18-2008, 08:57 PM
met anouncers crying about jay's homerun. they must have a short memory!:D

What are they saying?

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 08:59 PM
NY announcers griping and complaining about all these "cheap" HR's. Then they gripe that the walls are so close that the ball bouncing off the base of the wall would have rolled further and it would have been a triple.

If it wasn't in HD, I'd go back to FSN.

Red in Chicago
07-18-2008, 09:00 PM
nice that arroyo was able to hold the lead for a good length of time:rolleyes:

toledodan
07-18-2008, 09:00 PM
What are they saying?



how it wat pathetic how a ball like that was hit out. they are blaming the park for it saying it wouldn't have gone out anywhere else except wrigley. once again they have a short memory on 2 homeruns they hit last night.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:02 PM
Trivia question: Name the three Reds who have won Gold Gloves in consecutive seasons.

Cesar Geronimo
Eric Davis
Pete Rose

toledodan
07-18-2008, 09:02 PM
NY announcers griping and complaining about all these "cheap" HR's. Then they gripe that the walls are so close that the ball bouncing off the base of the wall would have rolled further and it would have been a triple.

If it wasn't in HD, I'd go back to FSN.




you and me both on the HD! it is always interesting to hear the other teams view. the pregame show was a regular met lovefest with everyone else just being awful except them.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:04 PM
2-1 Mets after four.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 09:07 PM
Trivia question: Name the three Reds who have won Gold Gloves in consecutive seasons.

Cesar Geronimo
Eric Davis
Pete Rose

JB's not in that group? I just checked. 1968-1977, he won it 10 consecutive years.

toledodan
07-18-2008, 09:08 PM
griffey walks to lead off the bottom of the 4th.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:08 PM
JB's not in that group?

I'm an idiot. Name the three Reds outfielders who have won Gold Gloves in consecutive seasons.

Red in Chicago
07-18-2008, 09:08 PM
JB's not in that group?

it was for outfielders

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 09:09 PM
Phillips looks determined to swing at every pitch.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 09:11 PM
I'm an idiot. Name the three Reds outfielders who have won Gold Gloves in consecutive seasons.

Ah, okay. I was wondering. Because there have been several. :O)

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 09:11 PM
Good AB by Dunn.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:12 PM
Geronimo, Rose, and Davis was indeed the correct answers.

BCubb2003
07-18-2008, 09:18 PM
Mets announcers: "Cincinnati chili is the worst you've ever tasted. It's watery and gross."

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:19 PM
A 1-2-3 5th inning with 2 K's for Arroyo.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:19 PM
Mets announcers: "Cincinnati chili is the worst you've ever tasted. It's watery and gross."

Mets announcers are the worst in baseball.

BCubb2003
07-18-2008, 09:20 PM
Mets announcers are the worst in baseball.

Watery and gross?

CTA513
07-18-2008, 09:20 PM
Mets announcers: "Cincinnati chili is the worst you've ever tasted. It's watery and gross."

Thats not surprising considering the Mets announcers always have something negative to say.

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 09:21 PM
Mets announcers are the worst in baseball.

Keith Hernandez looks greasy. :D

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 09:23 PM
Bako with a single and Arroyo with a sacrifice. C'mon Bruce!

Tony Cloninger
07-18-2008, 09:26 PM
Do JB and GG (well forget him...i know his story)....even pay attention to the last inning and how Phillips and EE.....put 2 bad AB's together?

They sound like 2 guys in love with their own voice. I wonder what Richard Burton would sound like announcing a game.....or james mason.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:26 PM
Bruce walks.

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 09:29 PM
It's Griffey time.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:30 PM
Kepp infield single loads the bases for Griffey.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:31 PM
3-1 on Griff.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:33 PM
Griffey got a 3-1 belt high fastball and missed it. The Griffey of old crushed that. Now 3-2...foul...ball 4!

2-2 game.

Good atbat.

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 09:33 PM
Good AB by Griff. Now time for Phillips to swing at the first pitch.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:34 PM
2-run bloop double by BP!

4-2 Reds.

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 09:34 PM
A bloop hit! I love it. 4-2.

Tony Cloninger
07-18-2008, 09:35 PM
Good job of BP to overlook a horrible strike one call.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 09:35 PM
smallball.

What happened to the first baseman?

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 09:37 PM
Brantley wants Dunn to swing at bad pitches. Brilliant.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:37 PM
Dunn walks.

Bases loaded for Edwin.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:38 PM
EdE HBP.

5-2 Reds.

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 09:38 PM
EdE takes one for the team.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:38 PM
That's all for Maine.

Tony Cloninger
07-18-2008, 09:39 PM
He did not say swing at bad pitches...only pitches that he can get to...which are boderline but seem to go against Dunn more often than not.

I see his point.....even though Dunn is just not that type of hitter.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:43 PM
Votto grounded out.

5-2 Reds after 5.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 09:44 PM
Time for Arroyo to allow 3 now.

(I pray not)

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:47 PM
The Reds could easily have a 5-game winning streak right now and in the drivers seat for a sixth win. They won the last game in Chicago and the first two in Milwaukee. They led 2-0 in Milwaukee but it could have been worse...the Reds had the bases loaded and nobody out and only managed one run. Bray allowed a walk to Fielder in the 6th which ended up allowing the tying run. The Reds a very winnable game by the score of 3-2. Yesterday the Reds led 8-6 in the 9th and were two outs away from a win but Cordero completely lost his stuff and the game.

Now tonight we have a 5-2 lead. Win those two games and the Reds would currently be 48-49 with a chance to get to .500 tonight.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 09:47 PM
An easy 1-2-3 6th inning for Arroyo.

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 09:48 PM
Wow. Arroyo does well in the sixth. OBM's prediction may come to pass about Arroyo tonight.

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 09:54 PM
I'm not sure if I like Arroyo running the bases. Bruce needs to just go yard.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 09:56 PM
Bruce proves he's a rookie--or he's been watching Brandon and Freel too much

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 09:59 PM
Don't think a 3-run lead is enough.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 10:02 PM
Yes, a lead-off triple is a bad way to start the 7th, but Bronson's throwing very well tonight. He's still under 80 pitches too. I'm not going to get pesimistic right away. 3 run lead WILL hold. I'd personally like to see Bronson go 9. :O)

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 10:03 PM
Delgado HBP...maybe I spoke too soon. Come on Bronson, step it up!

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Great DP!!!

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Double play!

Awesome.

7 IP of 2 ER from Bronson!

CTA513
07-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Good job by Arroyo to give up 0 runs after giving up a leadoff triple.

mth123
07-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Woo Hoo!!!

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 10:06 PM
Bronson pulls a Weathers escape act! Nice DP! 5-2 reds middle of 7.

Falls City Beer
07-18-2008, 10:06 PM
Now trade him!

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 10:07 PM
Btw, not sure if anybody noticed, but the Reds just announced that Freel's having surgury on his hammy. Kind of expected...just a heads up.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 10:08 PM
Excellent outing by Arroyo. I'm confident he'll return to being an above average pitcher again. He still has the same stuff but his problem earlier in the year was from bad command.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 10:08 PM
Prize goes to OBM who predicted Arroyo's outing successfully. Your reward is to get ot gloat when FCB comes back.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 10:09 PM
Is this the shortest game thread of the year. It may be the poorest attended...

As Junior singles.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 10:11 PM
Prize goes to OBM who predicted Arroyo's outing successfully. Your reward is to get ot gloat when FCB comes back.

He's only correct if Bronson doesn't come back out for the 8th. He's still under 90 pitches, I'd consider bringing him back out. He's deserved the shot to finish it off until he shows he's slipping.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 10:12 PM
Prize goes to OBM who predicted Arroyo's outing successfully. Your reward is to get ot gloat when FCB comes back.

Nah. Gloating ain't my kind of thing.

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 10:15 PM
Votto is due.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 10:15 PM
EE walks, bases jacked with 2 down. This kid looks wild as hell.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 10:15 PM
Votto misses a grand slam by five feet. If he hits it anywhere else in the park it's gone.

Tony Cloninger
07-18-2008, 10:16 PM
Come on Joey...take a few pitches with this guy.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 10:16 PM
Dan O'Brien, where are you when we need you. Kid having trouble throwing strikes and what does half this team do? Hack at the first pitch. Bruce, Philips, Ecarnacion, and Votto just swing away.

jesusfan
07-18-2008, 10:18 PM
Arroyo really upped that trade value tonight...

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 10:18 PM
Arroyo back out for the 8th...I would have brought Burton in...if he allows a baserunner then Burton needs to be brought in.

Schneider flies out.

jesusfan
07-18-2008, 10:18 PM
goodness guys... Votto nearly had a grannie... so what if he swung early...

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 10:19 PM
Groundout to Phillips...great play.

Two outs.

jesusfan
07-18-2008, 10:20 PM
Pads just went up 4-3 on the Cardinals... Maddux on 3rd... no outs... Arroyo has pitched great tonight.. .great play by Phillips btw...

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 10:20 PM
Reyes first pitch groundout to Phillips!

5-2 Reds after 7 1/2.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 10:20 PM
Great inning by Arroyo.

jesusfan
07-18-2008, 10:21 PM
Pads up 6-3 now on a Jody Gerut HR...

Tony Cloninger
07-18-2008, 10:21 PM
Beacuse it's still not the best approach.....unless you get a hit....and a flyball to barely the warning track is not close to me.

I thought Votto was more patient but he varies in his AB's with that...he is still way better than Phillips...and EE.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 10:21 PM
Arroyo has thrown 95 pitches. I suspect Dusty will send him back out for the 9th but if a runner reaches base I'd go to Burton or Cordero.

Tony Cloninger
07-18-2008, 10:23 PM
Someone has to pitch a CG sooner or later for this team. :D

Ltlabner
07-18-2008, 10:23 PM
For the love of God George, it's not "Coco Cordero". It's either Coco or Fransisco Cordero.

Now he has Brantley saying it.

Urgh.

WVRedsFan
07-18-2008, 10:24 PM
Arroyo done.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 10:25 PM
Yes, I send Bronson back out for the 9th...but he's on a short leash.

~oh well. I still think he deserved a shot to finish it out. Decent decision either way.

Kc61
07-18-2008, 10:25 PM
Surprised Arroyo is coming out of the game. My guess is Baker wants Cordero right back out there to resume effective pitching. Hope he does because another meltdown would make me very, very upset.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 10:26 PM
Nice to see Jolbert Cabrera back though. Hopefully he can get back into that groove he was in before the injury.

Tony Cloninger
07-18-2008, 10:27 PM
That's 2 games for Arroyo with 8 inn....of 1-2 runs vs the Mets....he would look good for the Mets in that stadium.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 10:30 PM
It cracks me up when announcers do that. Marty: "Bruce has a homerun, a single and a walk. He's knocked in one run and scored one." What's the purpose of that second sentence? Isn't saying that he hit a homerun enough? :O)


Regardless, he's had a VERY good game tonight, consistantly going deeper into counts. I think that slump is a thing of the past.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 10:32 PM
Bruce has looked very good at the plate tonight, he went deep into the count in every atbat.

NC Reds
07-18-2008, 10:34 PM
Hopefully Coco will be lights out tonight. I'm not prepared for the reaction if he fails again.

Kc61
07-18-2008, 10:34 PM
Reds should get one serious player/prospect in return if they trade Arroyo. Other than that one horrible outing, Arroyo has pitched well of late.

Ltlabner
07-18-2008, 10:38 PM
George praising Dusty for using "little scribbles and notes" on a clipboard instead of those wacky computers for his in-game info.

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 10:40 PM
Reds win 5-2!

Good pitching, defense, and offense tonight.

If only they had won that game last night...

mth123
07-18-2008, 10:40 PM
Great play by Phillips. Its like I'm watching a different team when he gets the ball.

Falls City Beer
07-18-2008, 10:40 PM
Cordero retires two hitters in one inning. Halt the presses.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2008, 10:40 PM
DP to end it. And this one belongs to the Reds!

OnBaseMachine
07-18-2008, 10:45 PM
Cordero retires two hitters in one inning. Halt the presses.

3.12 ERA, .654 OPS against, 9.97 K/9. You're acting as if he's a bad pitcher or something.:confused:

Ltlabner
07-18-2008, 10:46 PM
Bruce: "Every at bat is a game of cat and mouse"

PuffyPig
07-18-2008, 11:45 PM
Cordero retires two hitters in one inning. Halt the presses.


Cordero has retired at least two batters in every inning this year except one.

Your post is beyond inaccurate, and this type of post is what makes the game thread generally unwatchable.

Falls City Beer
07-19-2008, 12:04 AM
Your post is beyond inaccurate, and this type of post is what makes the game thread generally unwatchable.

I wonder how you feel about the, literally, countless Dusty posts then. If one comment by me makes the game threads unwatchable, what about the infernal Dusty-bashing?