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Chip R
07-21-2008, 08:00 PM
Redlegs

Jay Bruce cf
Jeff Keppinger ss
Ken Griffey Jr. rf
Brandon Phillips 2b
Adam Dunn lf
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Joey Votto 1b
David Ross c
Homer Bailey pFathers

Scott Hariston lf
Edgar Gonzalez 2b
Brian Giles rf
Adrian Gonzalez 1b
Kevin Kouzmanoff 3b
Jody Gerut cf
Khalil Greene ss
Nick Hundley c
Josh Banks p

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 08:18 PM
Bailey isn't fooling anybody right now....mostly breaking balls and changeups so far in the first inning.

dougdirt
07-21-2008, 08:21 PM
Eh, I wouldn't say he isn't fooling anyone. He got 3 groundballs by the first three guys he saw, 2 just happened to go for hits. Gonzalez laced one, but Kouz didn't lay into his sac fly.

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 08:22 PM
That's probably more accurate...I was in between rooms during the inning :D

Anyway, 2-0 Padres

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:23 PM
2-0 mid 1...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:25 PM
Bruce flies to center... 1 down

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:26 PM
Kepp pops to center... 2 down

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:27 PM
Griff grounds to 3rd... 1-2-3... 2-0 Pads end of 1

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:29 PM
Green flies to Bruce... 1 down

cumberlandreds
07-21-2008, 08:30 PM
I never heard of this kid the Padres have going tonight. That probably means the Reds score one run on four hits tonight. :)

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:30 PM
pop to Kepp... 2 down

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:31 PM
Cards already up 2-0 on the Brewers... how do they continue to win, ill never know!

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:31 PM
6 pitch 2nd inning for Homer... 2-0 Pads mid 2...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:33 PM
The Pads are 25 games under .500.... we better sweep this series, or at least 2 out of 3...

cumberlandreds
07-21-2008, 08:33 PM
Cards already up 2-0 on the Brewers... how do they continue to win, ill never know!

It's all Dave Duncan even though Tony LaRussa would like you think otherwise.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:36 PM
BP flies to right... 1 down

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:37 PM
Edwin goes bye bye! 2-1

Homer Bailey
07-21-2008, 08:38 PM
Edwin is hot! Solo shot!

dougdirt
07-21-2008, 08:38 PM
Edwin is not playing around.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:38 PM
#18 for Eddie...

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 08:38 PM
Edwin is sssssssmmmmmmmooooooking

:ede:

:jump:

lollipopcurve
07-21-2008, 08:39 PM
gee, too bad Edwin was hacking on the 1st pitch

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:41 PM
Votto grounds to 3rd... 2-1 Pads after 2...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:44 PM
Hairston beats out the grounder for the infield single...

lollipopcurve
07-21-2008, 08:46 PM
another weak groundball the defense can't convert into an out

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:47 PM
FO at the track to Griffey... 1 down

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:48 PM
kinda slow here tonight...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:50 PM
Homer K's Giles... 2 down

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 08:50 PM
Nice pitch right there

lollipopcurve
07-21-2008, 08:50 PM
very nice change to Giles

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:50 PM
Grounder to Phillips... 2-1 Pads mid 3...

dougdirt
07-21-2008, 08:51 PM
Bailey has his fastball working down in the zone tonight pretty well. Lots of ground balls.

GAC
07-21-2008, 08:52 PM
Bailey is looking pretty darn good. Seems to have settled in.

How many of those runs in the first inning were earned?

Falls City Beer
07-21-2008, 08:53 PM
Bailey is looking pretty darn good. Seems to have settled in.

How many of those runs in the first inning were earned?

Both earned. Pretty sloppy first.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:53 PM
Ross keeps on hitting... double for Rossie...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:54 PM
Ross needs to play at least 4 out of every 5 days...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:54 PM
good job Bailey... Ross to 3rd... get him on, get him over, get him in... how much you wanna bet we will hear it?

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:56 PM
Bruce doubles in Ross... 2-2 BRUUUUUUUCE!

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:57 PM
Kepp grounds to 3rd... Bruce stays at 2nd... 2 down

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 08:59 PM
Griffey flies to left... 2-2 after 3...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:02 PM
FO to Dunner... 1 down

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:03 PM
FO to Bruce... 2 down

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:04 PM
FO to Bruce... 1-2-3 for Bailey... 2-2 mid 4...

lollipopcurve
07-21-2008, 09:07 PM
lotta offspeed in that inning from Homer

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:08 PM
BP flies to center... 1 down

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:11 PM
Dunn singles to left... nice ab...

NC Reds
07-21-2008, 09:11 PM
Great AB by Dunn.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:12 PM
5-4-3 DP... end of 4... 2-2

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:15 PM
Single for Hundley...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:16 PM
Sac. for Banks...1 down

guttle11
07-21-2008, 09:16 PM
43 strikes and 16 balls so far. Very nice.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:19 PM
Hairston walks... 1st and 2nd...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:20 PM
need a dp...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:21 PM
nice play by Kepp... but bases jacked for Giles after the infield single... C'mon!

dougdirt
07-21-2008, 09:21 PM
Infield single. Bases loaded.

Kc61
07-21-2008, 09:21 PM
During the Hairston at bat, there was a foul fly to right. Didn't quite make the seats. Wonder if it was catchable.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:23 PM
3-2 to Giles...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:24 PM
Giles pops to Edwin in foul territory.. nice pitch... 2 down

Kc61
07-21-2008, 09:24 PM
Foul out to EE on a 3-2 pitch. One more tough out to go for Bailey.

NC Reds
07-21-2008, 09:26 PM
Homer needs to throw a good breaking ball away here.

NC Reds
07-21-2008, 09:26 PM
Good job Homer!

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:26 PM
Nice Pitch by Bailey! Got out of it! still 2-2...

Stormy
07-21-2008, 09:26 PM
Great work versus Giles on that AB by Homer, despite getting squeezed out of a Strike 3 earlier in the count. Then retiring Gonzalez on 3 pitches... he's doing a good job of spotting pitches, working both sides of the plate, changing speeds, and has some pretty good movement. The kid is pitching a fine game.

Kc61
07-21-2008, 09:26 PM
Bailey fans Gonzalez. That's just about the best pitching from Bailey I've seen. Two very tough lefty batters with the bases loaded.

Progress.

RedsManRick
07-21-2008, 09:27 PM
Great pitch by Homer to get Gonzalez. He's not making mistakes over the plate and his fastball actually has some movement -- good to see.

Joseph
07-21-2008, 09:27 PM
The kids starting to get it. I know a lot of us, myself included, wanted him to be the man immediately, but he's figuring it out. There will be more bumps, but he's got the makings of a big leaguer inside him.

VR
07-21-2008, 09:27 PM
Impressive to do that to Giles and Gonzo with the sack full, and pushing th 80 pitch count. Hopefully another milestone evening for Homer.

lollipopcurve
07-21-2008, 09:28 PM
not sure what that pitch was that K'd Gonzalez -- maybe a cutter? -- very fine spot, in under his hands

letsgojunior
07-21-2008, 09:28 PM
Dunn singles to left... nice ab...

Dunn has had a steady series of nice AB's against very tough pitchers.

Stormy
07-21-2008, 09:28 PM
Bailey has his fastball working down in the zone tonight pretty well. Lots of ground balls.

Sure does, with some late bite to both his fastball, and offspeed offerings, helping his cause in the groundball department. :beerme:

guttle11
07-21-2008, 09:29 PM
This is not you slightly older brother's Homer Bailey.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:31 PM
Votto K's.. .1 down

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:34 PM
Nice Ab by Ross with the walk... Getcha another Sac Homer...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:35 PM
Nice Slug bunt by Bailey... Double! 2nd and 3rd....

NC Reds
07-21-2008, 09:36 PM
The Reds are brutal on the basepaths. Just brutal.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:36 PM
are you kidding me??? That was the most disgusting display of baseball I have ever seen... No, forget that... That was not baseball!!!

RedsManRick
07-21-2008, 09:36 PM
Wow. That was ugly. Bruce chops one to 1B and both Ross and Bailey get caught in run-downs.

guttle11
07-21-2008, 09:36 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, YOUR Cincinnati Reds.

VR
07-21-2008, 09:38 PM
It's obvious Ross is seeing the ball a lot better this year, and not panicking when he gets in the hole.

KYRedsFan
07-21-2008, 09:38 PM
For those fans, like me, that think we can do it, we should have to watch that play on an endless loop to come back to reality.

flyer85
07-21-2008, 09:38 PM
what in the world was Ross thinking. After you get caught off you have to get in a run down ... not just stand there.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:39 PM
For those fans, like me, that think we can do it, we should have to watch that play on an endless loop to come back to reality.

I played at a high level of baseball... especially on summer teams and I rarely ever saw plays as bad as that one...

Tony Cloninger
07-21-2008, 09:40 PM
Why was he running to home anyways.....he's not Mickey Rivers with speed but his brain sure reminds me of him...or Freel.

I could get into Bruce's bad pitch selection but his inconsistency in working counts is part of his youth.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:41 PM
I love how Welsh has opened up this year...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:42 PM
nice read by Dunner... 1 down

flyer85
07-21-2008, 09:42 PM
Bruce's lack of patience also played a big part in that episode

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:44 PM
Nice play by BP... 2 down... He really does make difficult plays look easy, and you never know what he's going to do after he catches the baseball... well, besides make the out...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:45 PM
Green singles to right...

kaldaniels
07-21-2008, 09:46 PM
I love the small things about baseball. The ump gets whacked by a ball so Ross just goes out to the mound to give the guy a quick breather.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:47 PM
FO to Dunner... nice job by Homer... 2-2 mid 6...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:50 PM
Keppinger singles off of Gerut's face... nice start.... well, not in that way... lol

NC Reds
07-21-2008, 09:50 PM
That hurt to watch.

dougdirt
07-21-2008, 09:51 PM
Bailey at 97 pitches through 6 innings. 9-1-2 are due up to lead off the 7th, do you send Homer back out there?

NC Reds
07-21-2008, 09:51 PM
Bailey at 97 pitches through 6 innings. 9-1-2 are due up to lead off the 7th, do you send Homer back out there?

He has to grow up sometime. I say let him pitch until there is a baserunner.

HotCorner
07-21-2008, 09:52 PM
Bailey at 97 pitches through 6 innings. 9-1-2 are due up to lead off the 7th, do you send Homer back out there?

Yes but I have the bullpen ready.

guttle11
07-21-2008, 09:52 PM
Bailey at 97 pitches through 6 innings. 9-1-2 are due up to lead off the 7th, do you send Homer back out there?

With no Burton, yes. With Lincoln likely unavailable, I guess you have Bray and *gasp* Coffey warm.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:53 PM
JUNIOR!!! 606!!!! 4-2 Redlegs!

NC Reds
07-21-2008, 09:53 PM
Griffey ekes one over the wall. Reds lead 4-2!

guttle11
07-21-2008, 09:53 PM
Yeah, definitely let Homer pitch now. Put a cap at 15 pitches or a runner to second.

Kc61
07-21-2008, 09:55 PM
Yeah, definitely let Homer pitch now. Put a cap at 15 pitches or a runner to second.


Let him pitch, agree. It's 9, 1 and 2 coming up. But if it gets to Giles, bring in a lefty.

AmarilloRed
07-21-2008, 09:56 PM
Bailey at 97 pitches through 6 innings. 9-1-2 are due up to lead off the 7th, do you send Homer back out there?

It may be a different situation with a 2 run lead. You should start getting the bullpen ready now.

NC Reds
07-21-2008, 09:56 PM
Hairston takes a double from Dunn. :(

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 09:56 PM
nice play by Hairston... I wouldn't mind having Jerry and Scott....

oneupper
07-21-2008, 09:57 PM
nice play by Hairston... I wouldn't mind having Jerry and Scott....

Too much scrapiness for one team.

Raisor
07-21-2008, 10:00 PM
Too much scrapiness for one team.

No. Such. Thing.

lollipopcurve
07-21-2008, 10:01 PM
nice play by Hairston... I wouldn't mind having Jerry and Scott....

Been thinking the same thing myself

Raisor
07-21-2008, 10:03 PM
Scott's career OBP 303 OBP (313 this year) does not fill me with joy.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:04 PM
Votto K's... 4-2 end of 6....

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:08 PM
grounder to Votto... 1 down

CrackerJack
07-21-2008, 10:10 PM
94 mph there for Homer

AmarilloRed
07-21-2008, 10:10 PM
They did send Bailey out for the 7th.

CrackerJack
07-21-2008, 10:10 PM
...then a dinger

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:10 PM
Hairston homers and makes me look good... 4-3

dougdirt
07-21-2008, 10:12 PM
Hairston homers and makes me look good... 4-3

How does that make you look good?

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:13 PM
That's it for Homer... nice job to settle down after the rough first...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:13 PM
How does that make you look good?

by saying the reds should pick him up... lol I was only playing...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:15 PM
Here comes Billy Bray... didn't he lose it for Homer last time?

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:17 PM
Nice job Keppy!!!!

dougdirt
07-21-2008, 10:17 PM
LD double play to end the inning. It wasn't pretty, but it worked.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:17 PM
4-3 Reds mid 7...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:18 PM
LD double play to end the inning. It wasn't pretty, but it worked.

I thought it was a thing of beauty.. lol

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:18 PM
Brewers up 3-2 in the 7th..

_Sir_Charles_
07-21-2008, 10:18 PM
Really nice to see another solid outing by Homer. I think he's finally turned that corner.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:20 PM
Ross, A. Phillips, Bruce due up...

dougdirt
07-21-2008, 10:20 PM
I thought it was a thing of beauty.. lol

The play was nice, Bray.... not so much.

AmarilloRed
07-21-2008, 10:21 PM
A decision to make when Harang comes back. Both Bailey and Fogg have pitched well in their limited time here recently. Which one do you send to AAA?

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:22 PM
Ross walks... He may have turned the corner too... not sure what corner though...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:22 PM
A decision to make when Harang comes back. Both Bailey and Fogg have pitched well in their limited time here recently. Which one do you send to AAA?

Find a suitor for Fogg...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:23 PM
Fogg Pinch-hitting... or pinch-bunting...

NC Reds
07-21-2008, 10:23 PM
I don't like small ball.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:23 PM
C'mon!

dougdirt
07-21-2008, 10:23 PM
Fogg Pinch-hitting... or pinch-bunting...

Just wanted to quote this in case anyone missed it the first time.

Tony Cloninger
07-21-2008, 10:23 PM
Well this decision is straight out of Gene mauch

NC Reds
07-21-2008, 10:24 PM
I don't blame Fogg a bit for however this AB turns out.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:24 PM
I love when George and Chris argues...

flyer85
07-21-2008, 10:24 PM
rarely do I understand Dusty

lollipopcurve
07-21-2008, 10:24 PM
Ross has had 1 good AB after another -- a complete turnaround from last year. I was dead wrong about him coming into this year.

NC Reds
07-21-2008, 10:25 PM
The boos should be for Dusty, not Fogg. Fogg is not paid to pitch hit or bunt. Dusty is abysmal.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:25 PM
wow... I don't blame Fogg either... Hey Fogg get a bat your bunting, says Dusty with about 2 seconds to get up to the plate...

AmarilloRed
07-21-2008, 10:25 PM
Find a suitor for Fogg...

The Colorado Rockies showed some past interest in Fogg.

Tony Cloninger
07-21-2008, 10:25 PM
Any chance get's to play gene Mauch Jr he will......do not like decision either....are there any good real bunters to pick from the pitchers?

CTA513
07-21-2008, 10:25 PM
Another double play

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:25 PM
inning gone... bend that head Dusty, it was you man...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:26 PM
Kickin Jalapeno Cheese Coney.. mmmmmm

flyer85
07-21-2008, 10:26 PM
Any chance get's to play gene Mauch Jr he will......do not like decision either....are there any good real bunters to pick from the pitchers?read that wrong ... perfect spot for corey

Tony Cloninger
07-21-2008, 10:26 PM
So if GG was arguing....I imagine GG was all peaches and creams about the decision?

Kc61
07-21-2008, 10:27 PM
If Fogg is a superb bunter, that move makes sense. Doesn't seem like a superb bunter based on that at bat.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:28 PM
Weathers in... c'mon now

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:29 PM
Gonzo singles..

Stormy
07-21-2008, 10:29 PM
patterson ...

Yea, you could have allowed a guy who only excels at bunting, to do what he does (maybe even drag it to try and avoid an automatic out)... and not have burned Fogg in the process. :confused:

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:30 PM
Another single... shew... don't tell me again...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:30 PM
I love Weathers... but we need Burton back...

lollipopcurve
07-21-2008, 10:30 PM
ya know, it's great to have pitchers with defined roles, but Baker is a little too regimented in his use of the bullpen for me

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:30 PM
4-6 FC... 1st and 3rd... one down with Green up...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:31 PM
Green is horrible this year... watch him beat us...

dougdirt
07-21-2008, 10:31 PM
ya know, it's great to have pitchers with defined roles, but Baker is a little too regimented in his use of the bullpen for me

I think it would be different if Burton were available.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:31 PM
Great job Junior... I even seen some aggression in that play!

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:32 PM
Chase Headley Pinch-hitting... very good young player...

mbgrayson
07-21-2008, 10:32 PM
Having Fogg pinch hit for Bray just to bunt is really sad....

Bray had only thrown 5 pitches, and the left handed Adrian Gonzalez was leading off the 8th. Dusty ends up with Weathers facing a tough lefty....

I can't believe that the relievers can't take enough BP to learn how to bunt....

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:33 PM
2-2... big pitch right here...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:35 PM
YES!!! What a pitch that was... that was nasty!

mbgrayson
07-21-2008, 10:35 PM
San Diego TV guys talking about how "Weathers always a drop in velocity when the weather gets hot...." True? If so, I never noticed this....

Tony Cloninger
07-21-2008, 10:36 PM
You put Weathers' blood and guts into a Todd Coffey...or you name a Reds pitcher with the stuff but no brains to use it....and you have yourself a lights out closer.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:38 PM
You put Weathers' blood and guts into a Todd Coffey...or you name a Reds pitcher with the stuff but no brains to use it....and you have yourself a lights out closer.

Took the words right out of my mouth... kinda like taking Jerry Hairston's baseball saviness and putting it into Edwin's... lol

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:40 PM
BP grounds to 3rd... end of 8... 4-3 Reds... End it Franc!

Tony Cloninger
07-21-2008, 10:41 PM
PLEASE...do not take Dunn out for defense.

RedFanAlways1966
07-21-2008, 10:43 PM
Going into tonight's game... the REDS have won 11 straight QS games.

Bailey 6.1 IP, 3 ER.

flyer85
07-21-2008, 10:43 PM
any chance that Dusty loses his mind tomorrow and stacks some of the lefties against Peavy just to make it mildly tough for him to get through an inning?

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:43 PM
Cordero K!!!! 1 down

LvJ
07-21-2008, 10:44 PM
Haven't been able to see the game, but looking at the box score, I am quite mpressed wth Bailey's last two starts. Look like his control is starting to take form. For those who are watching, how does he look? Were the 8 hits solid shots?

Is Edwin going to hit 40 HR this season?

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:45 PM
Haven't been able to see the game, but looking at the box score, I am quite mpressed wth Bailey's last two starts. Look like his control is starting to take form. For those who are watching, how does he look? Were the 8 hits solid shots?

Is Edwin going to hit 40 HR this season?

Tough first inning... but battled back and had a nice pitched game... good curve, nice change, fastball not at 95 and 96 but had good movment in the low 90's... I'll take it everytime...

Tony Cloninger
07-21-2008, 10:45 PM
He still cannot start CP against Peavy....so If he wants to stick Valentin at C....I can deal with that.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:45 PM
wow... he went!!!

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:46 PM
Hairston walks... that hurts, Giles will hit this inning now... unless we get a dp of course...

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 10:47 PM
Coco walkz Hairston

LvJ
07-21-2008, 10:47 PM
Tough first inning... but battled back and had a nice pitched game... good curve, nice change, fastball not at 95 and 96 but had good movment in the low 90's... I'll take it everytime... Thanks. :thumbup:

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:48 PM
2-1 pitch coming...

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:48 PM
3-1... c'mon coco!

CTA513
07-21-2008, 10:48 PM
When was the last time Cordero had a 1-2-3 inning?

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:49 PM
single... 1st and 3rd for Giles... tough break with the bloop

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 10:49 PM
oh boy......

CTA513
07-21-2008, 10:49 PM
Cordero finds himself in trouble again.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:50 PM
When was the last time Cordero had a 1-2-3 inning?

he's had a 1-2-3 inning?

Falls City Beer
07-21-2008, 10:50 PM
Cordero's a mess.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:50 PM
c'mon!! DP!

LvJ
07-21-2008, 10:50 PM
When was the last time Cordero had a 1-2-3 inning? 7-10 vs Cubs non save situation.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:50 PM
Nice job Ross... just saved a run and a runner in scoring position...

WVRedsFan
07-21-2008, 10:50 PM
he's had a 1-2-3 inning?


Only 9 times this year in 45 innings.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:51 PM
George... "Reds playing for two" really?

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:51 PM
Dang!

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:52 PM
ball bounces away from Ross... how did the runner not go to 2nd... wow...

Tony Cloninger
07-21-2008, 10:52 PM
I am starting to go into FCB territory.....beacuse right now...Cordero looks like he has lost something for about the last couple of weeks.

He struggles with his control big time....then get;s squeezed at the most inopportune times.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:53 PM
wow... Cordero just trucked Votto... 2 down, runner will score... blown save again... 4-4

LvJ
07-21-2008, 10:53 PM
Coco's ERA has gone up every month. This month he has only had two 1-2-3 innings (10 GAMES)

RedFanAlways1966
07-21-2008, 10:53 PM
Another blown save (#6) for Cordero. 2nd blown save (18-inning game) against the Pads this year.

MasonBuzz3
07-21-2008, 10:53 PM
anyone up for 18 tonight?

LvJ
07-21-2008, 10:53 PM
I guess I'm bad luck.

WVRedsFan
07-21-2008, 10:53 PM
Keystone Kops. Good grief

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 10:53 PM
Cordero blows #6

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:54 PM
A. Gonzalez.. walk please

CTA513
07-21-2008, 10:54 PM
Get well soon Burton.

LvJ
07-21-2008, 10:54 PM
3rd BS of the month out of 8 chances.

flyer85
07-21-2008, 10:55 PM
now the Reds have Patterson in the middle of the lineup if they go extras. Dusty will never learn.

AmarilloRed
07-21-2008, 10:55 PM
Let's just get to extra innings.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:55 PM
we need this out!

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 10:55 PM
Bailey deserved better

VR
07-21-2008, 10:56 PM
I'd get Roenicke up here asap, Cordero DL or middle relief until he gets it back together. He is not Derek Turnbow.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:56 PM
C. Patterson now your #3 hitter, in your line-up and in your hearts...

Tony Cloninger
07-21-2008, 10:56 PM
My patience is thin.......win or not...this is lousy morale boosting for a club that has always been thin on cajones to begin with.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:56 PM
full count again... 34 pitches this inning...

WVRedsFan
07-21-2008, 10:56 PM
Francisco Graves in action again...

RedFanAlways1966
07-21-2008, 10:56 PM
Bailey deserved better


No doubt. The REDS deserve better for a $12 million closer.

HumnHilghtFreel
07-21-2008, 10:56 PM
Le sigh.

I wonder what's wrong with Cordero lately

Stormy
07-21-2008, 10:57 PM
anyone up for 18 tonight?

Well, we've already burned our long man, and Bray threw 5 pitches, so sure why not? ;) But I think CoCo just negated that possibility

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 10:57 PM
Weathers blew 6 all of last season

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:57 PM
No doubt. The REDS deserve better for a $12 million closer.

That is why you don't spend that on a closer... you can find young ones... ala Burton... we just got beat btw... wow...

CTA513
07-21-2008, 10:57 PM
Thats the game.

flyer85
07-21-2008, 10:57 PM
oops

Hoosier Red
07-21-2008, 10:57 PM
As big of a deal as you guys make of it. He's also the 9th guy up. It would be a mild upset if it even gets back to him.

Now it's 2 runs. They're done.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:57 PM
Well, we've already burned our long man, and Bray threw 5 pitches, so sure why not? ;)

don't worry about that...

RedFanAlways1966
07-21-2008, 10:57 PM
How long do you leave an ineffective pitcher in there? Long enough to lose another game. Brilliant.

CrackerJack
07-21-2008, 10:57 PM
This team is ridiculous

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 10:57 PM
:rant:

VR
07-21-2008, 10:58 PM
Reds could very easily be a ho-hum 5-0 post All-Star break. God I hate the Reds sometimes.

edabbs44
07-21-2008, 10:58 PM
I'd get Roenicke up here asap, Cordero DL or middle relief until he gets it back together. He is not Derek Turnbow.

Don't forget, Cordero was yanked as Texas' closer only a few short years ago.

WVRedsFan
07-21-2008, 10:58 PM
Way to spend $50 million Wayne.

Graves wasn't even this bad.

Well, maybe he was, but bringing in Cordero with a one run lead, heck even a three-run lead is simply ludicrous. He lives out of the strike zone and patient hitters will wait him out. And he gets bombed. What a waste of money.

Tom Servo
07-21-2008, 10:58 PM
I'm beginning to see why Texas ran him out of town.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:58 PM
Folks, we need to sell, sell, sell... who is fooling who? The Reds are going no where this year... and unless we have a great off-season... no where next year...

CTA513
07-21-2008, 10:58 PM
Cordero shouldn't be available tomorrow after all the pitches he threw tonight.

flyer85
07-21-2008, 10:59 PM
Cordero is a wonderful example for those who think the Reds are going to solve any of their problems via the free agent market after the season.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 10:59 PM
Someone surely needs a closer... well, we've got him for sale.. Blown transmission... BOO THIS MAN!

Tom Servo
07-21-2008, 10:59 PM
Wow this is bad.

sonny
07-21-2008, 10:59 PM
ugh.

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 10:59 PM
this is painful

RedFanAlways1966
07-21-2008, 10:59 PM
If Cordero saves his next 13 games in a row, he'll match Weathers save percentage from last season (33-for-39).

Falls City Beer
07-21-2008, 10:59 PM
No one ever listens to me. Cordero has the very same problem that Affeldt has: sure both have those sweet K numbers, but both are *constantly* flirting with BBs. Then, in a pinch, they groove a fastball and bam!

edabbs44
07-21-2008, 11:00 PM
now the Reds have Patterson in the middle of the lineup if they go extras. Dusty will never learn.

Sometimes it feels as if people would rather see the double switch come back and haunt Dusty than have it work out.

Cordero doesn't get hammered...again...and it is a non-issue. But maybe the smart play is to anticipate the blown save from now on?

VR
07-21-2008, 11:00 PM
40 pitches for Cordero. Whatever is wrong w/ him it's only getting compounded by leaving him in this long. Not good.

BCubb2003
07-21-2008, 11:00 PM
Francisco Graves in action again...

Franny Graves?

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 11:00 PM
I hate blown saves worse than anything in baseball!!

mbgrayson
07-21-2008, 11:01 PM
Bruce came in on that ball for his first step or two, then ran back as it went over his head. To me, this is an offshoot of switching everyone around in a defensive replacement. Bruce isn't used to seeing the ball as much in right, and simply misjudged how hard Kouz hit the ball.

lollipopcurve
07-21-2008, 11:01 PM
Baker needs to quit segmenting his bullpen into guys who pitch in winning/tied games and guys who don't. It's not sustainable over the course of a season.

WVRedsFan
07-21-2008, 11:01 PM
And to beat all, the contract our brilliant former GM had him sign locks him up for us for two more years. Wayne didn't know much relief pitching, did he?

Matt700wlw
07-21-2008, 11:01 PM
Cordero blew 7 last season

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 11:01 PM
Did Burton take a piece of Cordero with him... when Burton went down, so did Coco...

Tony Cloninger
07-21-2008, 11:02 PM
I would rather he take out Griffey than Dunn....so I do not have a problem with it....I mean seriously.....9th guy up and if it needs to get to him......they have bigger problems......which they do.

So much for playing the bad teams.......No cajones reds roll on.

Falls City Beer
07-21-2008, 11:02 PM
And to beat all, the contract our brilliant former GM had him sign locks him up for us for two more years. Wayne didn't know much relief pitching, did he?

3 more years.

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 11:02 PM
now Masuckski...

flyer85
07-21-2008, 11:03 PM
Sometimes it feels as if people would rather see the double switch come back and haunt Dusty than have it work out.

Cordero doesn't get hammered...again...and it is a non-issue. But maybe the smart play is to anticipate the blown save from now on? it's sure more likely than Patterson making the game saving play

jesusfan
07-21-2008, 11:04 PM
pop to Bruce... Dunn, Edwin, Votto... vs Hoffman... He rarely walks batters, so I guess we'll have to Homer, Homer, Homer....