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Unassisted
07-22-2008, 10:55 AM
A trip to the ballpark is getting more like a trip on an airplane.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07222008/news/regionalnews/sunblockheads__at_the_stadium_120930.htm


SUNBLOCKHEADS AT THE STADIUM
By JEREMY OLSHAN and REBECCA ROSENBERG
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July 22, 2008 -- Ladies and gentlemen, The Bronx is sunburning.
Yankee fans are seeing - and turning - red over a ban on sunscreen, which Stadium security guards say was widely expanded in the last few weeks.

Security guards collected garbage bags full of sunblock at the entrances to Yankee Stadium over the sweltering weekend, when temps hit 96 degrees and the UV index reached a skin-scorching 9 out of 10 - a move team officials said was to protect the Stadium from terrorism.

But fans baking in the bleachers and upper deck argued that the sun may be a bigger threat than Osama bin Laden.

"I was really pissed because, since I am Irish and I have a bald head, I need my sunblock," said Sean Gavin, 40, who had to toss his SPF 30 at the gate Saturday.

"After they saw me dousing myself with it, it should have been obvious to them that it was sunblock and not some explosive."

The team contends that sunscreen has long been on the list of stadium contraband, but there is no mention of it on the Yankee Web site.

Four weeks ago, Stadium officials decided that sunscreen of all sizes and varieties would not be permitted, a security supervisor told The Post before last night's game.

"There have been a lot of complaints," he said. "We tell them to apply once and then throw it out."

For fans who bring babies or young children to cheer on the home team, the guard had suggested they "beg" to take the sunblock in.

Seeing the giant bag full of confiscated sunscreen Saturday, one steaming Yankee fan asked whether he could take one of the tubes and apply it before heading into the park.

"Absolutely not," the guard told him. "What if you get a rash? You might sue the Yankees."

Fans said the team seems more concerned with catching the Tampa Bay Rays than ensuring their fans don't catch UV rays.

"Five hours in the upper deck with no sunscreen is crazy," season-ticket holder Dan McCourt said.

The Stadium does sell 1-ounce bottles of Arizona Sun SPF 15 for $5 - a huge markup that makes its beer seem cheap.

Dermatologists said that, security concerns or not, leaving 56,000 fans unprotected from potential skin cancer is "very dangerous."

"This is especially bad for children, as their younger skin is particularly sensitive," said Dr. Babar Rao, a specialist at the Skin and Cancer Center of New York. "Sunblock needs to be reapplied every two hours, even if you are not swimming in the ocean or pool."

Major League Baseball even has a skin-cancer prevention program called "Play Sun Smart."

An hour after being asked about the sunscreen ban, Yankee spokesman Jason Zillo told The Post that the rules would be changed to permit 3-ounce containers.

Johnny Footstool
07-22-2008, 11:24 AM
Someone will get a second-degree sunburn and sue the Yankees.

Big Klu
07-22-2008, 11:55 AM
Someone will get a second-degree sunburn and sue the Yankees.

Or someone develops melanoma. The Yankees are really opening themselves up for legal trouble with this. I think the Yankees are getting a little paranoid about terrorism--other stadiums allow sunscreen, don't they?

Chip R
07-22-2008, 12:02 PM
Or someone develops melanoma. The Yankees are really opening themselves up for legal trouble with this. I think the Yankees are getting a little paranoid about terrorism--other stadiums allow sunscreen, don't they?


I think it would be difficult - if not impossible - to prove that one got melanoma from not wearing sunscreen to a Yankees game.

Are they paranoid or do they just want to sell their own sunscreen? :cool:

I think the Yankees are being silly but one can always put sunscreen on before you go to the game or wear protective clothing. If someone is so concerned about their head getting burnt, wear your Yankees cap to the game.

Unassisted
07-22-2008, 12:04 PM
Are they paranoid or do they just want to sell their own sunscreen?
Paranoid... It's "a move team officials said was to protect the Stadium from terrorism."

Don't forget that this is also the stadium that restricts people from leaving or returning to their seats during "God Bless America" in the 7th Inning Stretch.

RedsManRick
07-22-2008, 12:16 PM
This kind of stuff is so stupid. What about the 1,000,000 other ways something dangerous could be snuck in? Perhaps this is insensitive, but if some terrorist is really determined to do something in Yankee stadium, I don't think a 83 year old in a vinyl jacket digging through people's bags is going to stop it.

Chip R
07-22-2008, 12:16 PM
Paranoid... It's "a move team officials said was to protect the Stadium from terrorism."

Don't forget that this is also the stadium that restricts people from leaving or returning to their seats during "God Bless America" in the 7th Inning Stretch.


Methinks it's a little bit of both.

KoryMac5
07-22-2008, 12:17 PM
I think it would be difficult - if not impossible - to prove that one got melanoma from not wearing sunscreen to a Yankees game.

Are they paranoid or do they just want to sell their own sunscreen? :cool:

I think the Yankees are being silly but one can always put sunscreen on before you go to the game or wear protective clothing. If someone is so concerned about their head getting burnt, wear your Yankees cap to the game.

Unfortunately for someone who has red hair and a fair complexion being able to apply sunscreen before entering doesn't work out very well, I need that application every two hours or else I will become red as a lobster.

Wearing a cap really does help, but it leaves areas like your nose, ears and back of your neck exposed. Protective clothing is great but who wants to wear long sleeves, pants, and a turtle neck to a game when a three ounce bottle of sun block could do the trick.

Chip R
07-22-2008, 12:23 PM
Unfortunately for someone who has red hair and a fair complexion being able to apply sunscreen before entering doesn't work out very well, I need that application every two hours or else I will become red as a lobster.

Wearing a cap really does help, but it leaves areas like your nose, ears and back of your neck exposed. Protective clothing is great but who wants to wear long sleeves, pants, and a turtle neck to a game when a three ounce bottle of sun block could do the trick.


Fair enough - no pun intended. The rule is silly. Now they are allowing 3 oz containers in. You can't bring in these things the Yankees are so concerned about in a 3 oz container? Perhaps not as much but I would think 3 oz is enough to cause some damage.

WebScorpion
07-22-2008, 01:23 PM
Fair enough - no pun intended. The rule is silly. Now they are allowing 3 oz containers in. You can't bring in these things the Yankees are so concerned about in a 3 oz container? Perhaps not as much but I would think 3 oz is enough to cause some damage.
Same reason the airlines only allows liquid in 3 oz. containers...a 3. oz explosive device might take out a few people, but it won't bring down the plane/building. :D

It's a shame someone doesn't prevent people from turning these type of things into yet another way for 'enterprising capitalists' to commit sanctioned robbery. Turning a legitimate fear into a way for the common citizen to be forced to pay 4 or 5 times the going rate for an item that is almost universally required, but banned from entering the gates. In Yankee Stadium's case it's the sunblock, with the airlines it's bottled water. Isn't it enough that you're going to sell 10 times what you normally would without jacking up the profit margin and leaving your customers feeling violated? I guess not... :thumbdown

KronoRed
07-22-2008, 02:21 PM
People should stay home then, a silly baseball game isn't worth skin damage, maybe the yanks would see a drop in ticket sales and react.

KittyDuran
07-22-2008, 02:42 PM
Unfortunately for someone who has red hair and a fair complexion being able to apply sunscreen before entering doesn't work out very well, I need that application every two hours or else I will become red as a lobster.

Wearing a cap really does help, but it leaves areas like your nose, ears and back of your neck exposed. Protective clothing is great but who wants to wear long sleeves, pants, and a turtle neck to a game when a three ounce bottle of sun block could do the trick.Do what I do - get seats in the shade... works every time... :cool:

KoryMac5
07-22-2008, 03:10 PM
I could always bring a sun umbrella to the games. I am sure that would go over well with the Yankee faithful. :)

Rojo
07-22-2008, 09:14 PM
Or someone develops melanoma. The Yankees are really opening themselves up for legal trouble with this. I think the Yankees are getting a little paranoid about terrorism--other stadiums allow sunscreen, don't they?

Not sure about this, but I don't think sunscreen prevents melanoma.

WebScorpion
07-23-2008, 09:56 AM
Not sure about this, but I don't think sunscreen prevents melanoma.

In fact, many studies are finding an INCREASED occurence of melanoma in sunscreen users. Sunscreen is only proven to prevent certain carcinomas. You say carcinoma/melanoma, what's the difference? It's all skin cancer, right? That is tecnically true, but Melanoma is responsible for the lion's share of skin cancer deaths...it's well over 60%. :eek: So unfortunately, if you're pale and prone to sunburn, your best bet is to follow Kitty's advice and stay out of the sun. The way I've always looked at it is sunburn is God's way of telling you to get out of the sun...sunblock is man's way of trying to skirt around God's common sense rule...guess who's going to win? http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/green/greensmilies-029.gif (http://www.greensmilies.com)

NJReds
07-23-2008, 11:06 AM
Guess what ... ban over.


Yankees lift ban on sunscreen in stadium
Tuesday July 22, 1:29 pm ET
By Karen Matthews, Associated Press Writer
Fans no longer seeing red: Yankees lift ban on bringing sunscreen into stadium

NEW YORK (AP) -- Go ahead, Yankees fans. Slather on that SPF 45 -- sunscreen is now legal in Yankee Stadium.
The baseball team has lifted a ban on plastic containers of sunscreen at their ballpark after deciding "not to be as stringent," team spokesman Jason Zillo said Tuesday.

Sports teams around the country started restricting what fans could bring into stadiums after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The Yankees' Web site lists bans on backpacks, briefcases, coolers, large purses, laptop computers and video cameras. Bottles and cans also are on the forbidden list, but the sunscreen question is not specifically addressed.

The New York Post reported Tuesday that Yankees fans were hot and bothered over the weekend because of a crackdown on sunscreen.

The newspaper said security guards confiscated garbage bags full of the stuff at entrances to the stadium when the team played Saturday and Sunday day games in 90-plus weather.

Zillo said the Yankees have banned sunscreen containers larger than 3 ounces for several years but the restriction was eased in the last few days and sunscreen is now permitted.

"Our No. 1 priority is always going to be our fan safety," Zillo said. "That's why these policies were put in place in the first place."

Major League Baseball, which promotes skin-cancer prevention through its "Play Sun Smart" program, leaves security measures up to teams.

New York's other team, the Mets, allows sunscreen.

Sean Rachau, a spokesman for the Arizona Diamondbacks in sun-baked Phoenix, said that team has never banned sunscreen.

Rachau noted that the Diamondbacks have a retractable roof that is closed during the hottest months.

"I imagine people would wear sunscreen when the roof is open," he said.

The Yankees' former policy banning sunscreen was similar to the air-travel restrictions enforced by the federal Transportation Security Administration.

Under TSA rules, all liquids, gels and aerosols must be in 3-ounce or smaller containers.

The Yankees and Mets are both in their final seasons in their current homes. Both are building new ballparks next door to their existing stadiums.

Johnny Footstool
07-23-2008, 11:09 AM
I like to think we at RedsZone were the difference-makers.

You're welcome, Yankee fans.

Chip R
07-23-2008, 11:13 AM
I like to think we at RedsZone were the difference-makers.

You're welcome, Yankee fans.


To paraphrase Richard Hand, "The Yankees listen to me!" :lol:

Rojo
07-23-2008, 01:58 PM
The way I've always looked at it is sunburn is God's way of telling you to get out of the sun...sunblock is man's way of trying to skirt around God's common sense rule...guess who's going to win?

Thus the siesta. We need it, i'd vote for it.

KronoRed
07-23-2008, 03:19 PM
I like to think we at RedsZone were the difference-makers.

You're welcome, Yankee fans.

Where is our cut of the revenue sharing? :D

UKFlounder
07-23-2008, 03:29 PM
Where is our cut of the revenue sharing? :D

Paying for their new stadium, of course :p:

KronoRed
07-23-2008, 04:06 PM
Paying for their new stadium, of course :p:

Evil indeed.