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SultanOfSwing
07-24-2008, 12:41 PM
Rockies Interested In Arroyo (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/rockies-interes.html)

By Tim Dierkes [July 24, 2008 at 10:19am CST]
According to Pat Rooney of the Rocky Mountain News (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jul/23/rockies-5-dodgers-3/), the Rockies are interested in starting pitcher Bronson Arroyo. Rooney says the Reds might be willing to pick up some of the $22.5MM owed to Arroyo for 2009-10.
Arroyo spoke out yesterday (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/arroyo-hopes-to.html), saying he'd be disappointed if traded. If Walt Jocketty moves him, it won't be just a salary dump. The Yankees are said to be another possible suitor.

schmidty622
07-24-2008, 01:02 PM
I'd go halfsees with them on Arroyo for 2009 if we could get Holliday for Arroyo and some solid low A/AA prospects.

PTI (pti)
07-24-2008, 01:23 PM
I'd go halfsees with them on Arroyo for 2009 if we could get Holliday for Arroyo and some solid low A/AA prospects.



You're kidding, right?


You think they're gonna trade Matt Holliday for *that*?



B/c of that ridiculous contract extension, his trade value is almost zero. Unless we help pay his salary over the next two years, we'd be lucky to get ANYTHING in return.

TheBigLebowski
07-24-2008, 01:24 PM
I'd go halfsees with them on Arroyo for 2009 if we could get Holliday for Arroyo and some solid low A/AA prospects.

Matt Holliday PLUS prospects PLUS we go "halfsies" on his salary. Wow. Where do I sign?

Jefferson24
07-24-2008, 01:27 PM
If we are going to help pay his salary we might as well keep him. He's pitching well and that quality of starter wont be easy or cheap to replace. What we would get in return wouldn't compare to the value he holds as a 3 or 4 starter in my opinion.

Ohioballplayer
07-24-2008, 01:33 PM
How about for Garret Atkins who could play first move Joey to outfield open trade for Dunn to Boston

CWRed
07-24-2008, 01:44 PM
I'd go halfsees with them on Arroyo for 2009 if we could get Holliday for Arroyo and some solid low A/AA prospects.


I would wet myself. No kidding.

NorrisHopper30
07-24-2008, 02:11 PM
I'd go halfsees with them on Arroyo for 2009 if we could get Holliday for Arroyo and some solid low A/AA prospects.

If the Rockies are targeting Arroyo that means they don't want to trade Holliday.

RedLegsToday
07-24-2008, 02:14 PM
The Rockies probably think they can make a run. They're only 6 back (at 13 games under .500). What a lousy division

Orodle
07-24-2008, 03:46 PM
a breaking ball junk pitcher in the thin air of coors....that would work out

NorrisHopper30
07-24-2008, 03:50 PM
If we do make a deal with the Rockies the first person I want to see coming to the 'nati is Chris Iannetta.

Jr's Boy
07-24-2008, 04:09 PM
a breaking ball junk pitcher in the thin air of coors....that would work out


When he is spotting his pitches and that curves humming,there's nothing junk about him.Not to mention how many ''junk pitchers''give you 200+innings a season.You need to define what you mean by ''junk pitcher''.

TheBigLebowski
07-24-2008, 04:42 PM
When he is spotting his pitches and that curves humming,there's nothing junk about him.Not to mention how many ''junk pitchers''give you 200+innings a season.You need to define what you mean by ''junk pitcher''.

He wasn't referring to BA's value nor skill. Pitchers who get by with a lot of off-speed stuff and deception are oftentimes referred to as "junkballers." Not meant to be a perjorative.

NarrowStairs
07-24-2008, 07:38 PM
a breaking ball junk pitcher in the thin air of coors....that would work out

It ain't your daddy's Coors anymore

schmidty622
07-24-2008, 08:15 PM
You guys obviously did not see the report from earlier in the year when the rockies only wanted low A ball prospects in return for Holliday because their upper levels were "loaded". I'm talking guys like Zach Stewart and Alonso here, not scrubs, and I would still do it for Holliday.

SoTxRedsFan
07-24-2008, 08:19 PM
You guys obviously did not see the report from earlier in the year when the rockies only wanted low A ball prospects in return for Holliday because their upper levels were "loaded". I'm talking guys like Zach Stewart and Alonso here, not scrubs, and I would still do it for Holliday.

Neither Stewart or ALonso can be traded for the next year. We don't have near enough to get Holliday.

schmidty622
07-24-2008, 08:25 PM
I don’t know, an Arroyo, Stubbs, Francisco, Valaika ticket would be appealing.

And I would do that deal for Holliday all day. We don't need 4 top notch 3b in our system. Let Frasier fill in and get rid of the dead weight.

NorrisHopper30
07-24-2008, 08:58 PM
I donít know, an Arroyo, Stubbs, Francisco, Valaika ticket would be appealing.

And I would do that deal for Holliday all day. We don't need 4 top notch 3b in our system. Let Frasier fill in and get rid of the dead weight.

Again, if the Rockies are looking for Starting Pitching why would they want to trade Holliday?

schmidty622
07-24-2008, 09:13 PM
Gotta trade something.

improbus
07-24-2008, 10:44 PM
I wouldn't mind getting rid of Bronson before his contracts big numbers really kick in.

OPS
07-25-2008, 12:40 AM
I have changed my stance on Bronson. I used to think that we should look to trade him before his higher salary kicked in. However, we would need to replace him somehow and that means looking for pitchers in free agency. Odds are that we would get a worse pitcher for the same amount of money. Bronson's numbers are not good, but at least he gives a good amount of Quality Starts.

TC81190
07-25-2008, 01:23 AM
Unless they want to send Tulo our way, I wouldn't be interested.

ChatterRed
07-25-2008, 12:20 PM
I think by the end of the weekend, Arroyo and a package of others will be headed to Colorado for Matt Holiday, contingent upon the Reds being able to sign him. The big question about Holiday is whether or not he can play RF, since he has played LF his whole career...........meaning I think we re-sign Dunn. We might then re-sign Fogg to replace Arroyo, and move Bailey into the rotation permanently.