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redhawk61
07-28-2008, 09:26 PM
Reds take Arroyo off the market
Monday, July 28, 2008 | Print Entry (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3508787&type=blogEntry)

Posted by Jayson Stark
The Reds have informed other clubs that they are no longer interested in trading pitcher Bronson Arroyo (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6498). Only the Yankees and Rockies were known to have demonstrated even mild interest, anyway. But the Reds apparently were finding that the $24 million Arroyo has coming through 2010 was going to keep them from getting any worthwhile return. And the Reds weren't particularly motivated to eat any sizeable hunk of that salary. So Arroyo, who has been lobbying to stick around, will get to finish the season in Cincinnati. But he may not have heard the last trade rumor of his Reds career.

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Exciting, the only hope we have now is for the D-Back's deal for Tex to fall through and they become desperate for Dunn, or else we are going to have pretty much the same team next year as we do this year, with the lack of good FA's out there

captainmorgan07
07-28-2008, 09:45 PM
Good he'll be a solid number 4 for this rotation for many years to come. When he has it going he's tough to beat. Right now he's on a 5 game winning streak.

redhawk61
07-28-2008, 09:50 PM
Good he'll be a solid number 4 for this rotation for many years to come. When he has it going he's tough to beat. Right now he's on a 5 game winning streak.Yeah I guess I'm ok with it. Unless the Rox were willing to give up Dexter Fowler, or Garrit Atkins(Arroyo paired with a prospect) then there was no reason.

Jack Burton
07-28-2008, 10:27 PM
Would have liked to move him with his recent "hot streak". Probably will all be downhill for him the rest of the way.

kpresidente
07-28-2008, 10:59 PM
Good. I always thought trading Arroyo would be the epitome of buying high, selling low.

Kingspoint
07-28-2008, 11:14 PM
Would have liked to move him with his recent "hot streak". Probably will all be downhill for him the rest of the way.

No kidding. It sounds like they'd rather use him to eat some innings and save the arms of the younger players than to trade him for what they were willing to get in return.

Newman4
07-28-2008, 11:16 PM
Good. I always thought trading Arroyo would be the epitome of buying high, selling low.

He's on a 5 game winning streak with a 3.09 ERA....isn't that about as high as he can get?

kpresidente
07-28-2008, 11:48 PM
He's on a 5 game winning streak with a 3.09 ERA....isn't that about as high as he can get?
Well, higher than it's been this season, but nowhere near where it was after 2006 or 2007.

BLEEDS
07-29-2008, 12:04 AM
I would love to see what this team would look like WITHOUT Arroyo and Dunn.

Drew Stubbs in LF, and "TBD" at the #4 SP every 5th day.

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I'm sure we would spend that money wisely and be able to find cheaper and better alternatives in FA
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PEACE

-BLEEDS

kpresidente
07-29-2008, 12:15 AM
Exciting, the only hope we have now is for the D-Back's deal for Tex to fall through and they become desperate for Dunn, or else we are going to have pretty much the same team next year as we do this year, with the lack of good FA's out there

Just think, we could have had Shane Victorino.:rolleyes:

wojo1025
07-29-2008, 12:25 AM
Buying high? We trade Pena for him right? That was buying high?

kpresidente
07-29-2008, 10:24 AM
Buying high? We trade Pena for him right? That was buying high?

Well, at the time Pena looked like a future middle of the order hitter...

Anyway, I think you're stretching the analogy. Point is I think Arroyo can be counted on to put up better numbers than he has this season, which means trading him now isn't getting good value.

RadioWink
07-29-2008, 10:31 AM
For the life of me... I CAN NOT understand why clubs announce that a player is no longer available or "untouchable"? Does Jocketty have limited minutes on his cellphone? If I'm GM -- there is no such thing as an "untouchable". God gave me two ears to listen to offers... doesn't mean I pull the trigger, but at least listen!!!

This team needs Krivsky! (and a plan)

((JUST NEEDED TO VENT!))

DoubleA_Ron
07-29-2008, 10:46 AM
I'm not expert but it seems to be it was a gesture to the fans, or an attempt to call the bluff of any teams that might have been interested. Walt is no rookie, so I’m going to assume it’s probably not the latter.

I know plenty of people disagree with the notion of keeping Arroyo but I don’t see any way we could have received equal value for this guy. Maybe I’m too optimistic, but I believe the Reds are only a piece or two away from a truly solid team, and a trade like this would have pushed us back and not forward.