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SoTxRedsFan
07-31-2008, 09:34 AM
With the Griffey wait now in effect. What players from the White Sox system do you guys hope to see in return (if it's approved)?

Mr.RedStripe
07-31-2008, 09:50 AM
If this rumor is true:(, there are a few guys Id be interested in.
I would hope to see a few prospects in return.
Two of these guys would be sweet.


Faustino de los Santos, RHSP, A+.
de los Santos threw 97.2 innings in Low-A before earing a five game promotion to High-A. At both levels he struck out more than 31% of batters faced and walked just 9.4% in Low-A and 7.1% in High-A. He misses a lot of bats and induces weakly hit balls, if at all.

Jack Egbert (http://firstinning.com/players/Jack-Egbert-a), RHSP, AA.
Egbert threw 161.2 innings in Double-A and earned a spot in the Arizona Fall League. He doesn’t walk many batters (6.7% this year) and strikes out just over a quarter of his opponents. He keeps the ball on the ground and in the park. Over the last two seasons (342.2 innings) he has allowed just five home runs.


Gio Gonzalez (http://firstinning.com/players/Gio-Gonzalez-a), LHSP, AA. Gonzalez repeated Double-A this year (his first with the White Sox) and, although he improved, it was a repeat effort. He decreased his BB rate by 2.5%, increased his K% from 24.3% to 30.3%. He induced more groundballs and was generally successful. Look for a rapid ascent next year for Gio Gonzalez.

Aaron Poreda (http://firstinning.com/players/Aaron-Poreda-a), LHSP, Rk. Drafted this year, Poreda had a very good debut throwing 46.1 innings and striking out 48 while walking just 10. Drafted out of college, Poreda is a hard throwing, power pitcher. His fastball is in the low 90s and is his only plus pitch. He has a nice pitching frame but counters that somewhat with a three-quarters arm angle. He is a project.

SoTxRedsFan
07-31-2008, 10:02 AM
Since the Reds are so hard up for Catching prospects, do the Sox have any of note?

medford
07-31-2008, 10:15 AM
In no particular order, pieces I'd like to see come back to the Reds:

Upper minors catching prospect that could challenge for the starting role next season
CF/lead off hitter type that could challenge for a starting role next season
Right handed thump for the bench (though this seems like something best acquired thru free agency w/ veterns)
left handed starting pitching
any pitching that can help the bullpen.

Mr.RedStripe
07-31-2008, 10:27 AM
Since the Reds are so hard up for Catching prospects, do the Sox have any of note?

They really messed thier farm system up in a few trades. Mainly the one with OAK.
Chris Carter has been tearing it up.

They dont have that many positions players to get excited about.
In fact, the only one I can think of is Ryan Sweeny and they say he wont develop into much.
I do not see any Catchers even in thier top 20.


Poreda would be nice. He is the only prospect in the top 150.
AA) 1-2, 3.95ERA, 41IP, 11BB, 30K, 2.67BAA
(High-A) 5-5, 3.31ERA, 73.1IP, 18BB, 46K, .238BAA




I dont know why we would do a deal with the White Sox.
They honestly dont have anyone in minors worth dealing for.
And nevermind on Gio Gonzalez, he was also sent to OAK.

I really would want some of OAK or TB prospects. :cool:

I like our prospects wwaaaaaayy better than CHI.

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2008, 10:53 AM
Fautino de los Santos and Gio Gonzalez were both traded to Oakland for Swisher during the offseason.

Mr.RedStripe
07-31-2008, 11:01 AM
Fautino de los Santos and Gio Gonzalez were both traded to Oakland for Swisher during the offseason.

I forgot about Santos.

I corrected myself in the above post about Gonzalez as you can see.


Ive been searching for thier top prospects and read it wrong.

Gosh, I hope he doesnt approve it.

Only because CHI has NOBODY I want. :thumbdown


STL is willing to deal Lohse for a bat. ;)

I guess we would need STL's pitching coach as well. :D

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2008, 11:10 AM
I'd take 2B Chris Getz and CF Brian Anderson.

medford
07-31-2008, 11:11 AM
With all that said, were we really expecting the Reds to get something of significant value for Junior? Perhaps something more along the lines of a PTBNL that comes from a list of prospects depending on how JR does the rest of this season.

Grande Donkey
07-31-2008, 11:11 AM
How is Brian Anderson any different than having Dickerson? No reason to have both.

Thome 25
07-31-2008, 11:22 AM
Supposedly the Chicago "insider" reporter of ESPN 1000 in Chicago said the Sox weren't giving up anything of significant value to the organization for Griffey. It could just be a salary dump.

Grande Donkey
07-31-2008, 11:27 AM
That's what I'd say it is.

RedsManRick
07-31-2008, 11:36 AM
I'm pretty sure that Gio went to the A's in the Swisher deal.

dougdirt
07-31-2008, 11:55 AM
The White Sox don't have any big prospects. They have one of the worst systems in baseball. The return isn't going to be good.

kpresidente
07-31-2008, 07:23 PM
Danny Richar.

Looks like he had .305/.365/.505 line in AAA in 2007. Had the inside track the Sox's future 2B. Hasn't done well this year --- .261/.321/.427. There are reasons though, he's been fighting a rib injury.

If he returns to his '07 form, you might have a future SS. He's a lefty, so a platoon could be in his future as well. Keppinger has a pretty hefty split (at least this season).

Not a bad return once you throw in the reliver, IMO.

corkedbat
07-31-2008, 07:36 PM
I'd love to see this result in a move of Phillips to Ss and a platoon of Keppinger and Richar at 2B.

I saw elsewhere someone specualte that Richar might be shifted to CF. It should get interesting.

AFalcon10
07-31-2008, 08:16 PM
Richar had acutally fallen way behind in the White Sox plan of things..and since we are paying half Griffey's salary I dont know if I would call it a salary dump either actually.... Richar was once a top prospect but now the most I see of him , partly given the Reds current situation, is a future utility man

PuffyPig
07-31-2008, 09:06 PM
.and since we are paying half Griffey's salary I dont know if I would call it a salary dump either actually

The White Sox are paying $4M for 2 months of Griffey. If that's not a salary dump, I don't know what is.

kpresidente
07-31-2008, 09:14 PM
The White Sox are paying $4M for 2 months of Griffey. If that's not a salary dump, I don't know what is.
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kpresidente
07-31-2008, 09:16 PM
Richar had acutally fallen way behind in the White Sox plan of things..and since we are paying half Griffey's salary I dont know if I would call it a salary dump either actually.... Richar was once a top prospect but now the most I see of him , partly given the Reds current situation, is a future utility man

I'll call him a utility man with upside. The guy did OPS .956 at Charlotte less than a year ago.

corkedbat
07-31-2008, 09:24 PM
The White Sox are paying $4M for 2 months of Griffey. If that's not a salary dump, I don't know what is.


I don't see it as a straight salary dump at all. Moving Junior's bat out of the 3-hole and his defense out of RF was a value in itself.

If Griffey still held any more value at all for the Reds, I don't think holding onto him the rest of the season would have been a problem. Sadly he was of no further value. Saving half of what was owed him in salary and buyout was a great move, clearing space for Bruce in RF and probably Hairston in Cf was even better.

Lockdwn11
07-31-2008, 09:30 PM
I think the Reds did pretty good.