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OnBaseMachine
07-31-2008, 10:12 PM
Louisville is losing 4-2 in the 7th.

Dickerson is 1-for-3 with a triple and a walk.

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2008, 10:13 PM
Chattanooga is losing 1-0 in the 5th inning. They have yet to reach base through five innings...

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2008, 10:14 PM
Sarasota is winning 1-0 in the 8th inning.

Frazier: 1-for-2 walk

Klinker: 6.2 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 5 K...High-A debut

Valiquette: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2008, 10:17 PM
The DSL Reds won 9-0.

Juan Duran DNP.

Luis Machuca: 7 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 6 K

CTA513
07-31-2008, 10:35 PM
Sarasota won 1-0 and faced Dontrelle Willis

Frazier: 1 for 2 with a single and 2 walks
Heisey: 2 for 4 with a single and double
Parker: 1 for 3 with a single
Stewart: 1 Inning, 0 Hits, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 2 Ks - save #2

AWA85
07-31-2008, 10:40 PM
Left the Burlington v. Dayton game early and a few things on a rough night so far. Mesoraco can hit the ball, and looks like a winner. When he was on the base paths he really was into it when others got out or made contact, something about him just seems like he is a gamer. I've got to say these two games he has caught are the only ones I have seen of him but his D looks .... BAD. Two times burlington ran on him and Dayton guessed right with the pitch out and couldnt even come close to nailing them, just terrible throws from an already standing catcher. I could not even begin to count the balls that went between his legs or right past to the back stop tonight. His D has a long ways to go, and left me kind of down on the guy. Anyone know how his D is progressing and is this something that can improve?

redhawk61
07-31-2008, 10:52 PM
Sarasota won 1-0 and faced Dontrelle Willis

Frazier: 1 for 2 with a single and 2 walks
Heisey: 2 for 4 with a single and double
Parker: 1 for 3 with a single
Stewart: 1 Inning, 0 Hits, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 2 Ks - save #2
Came back from a rocky outing, nice...time to keep him moving, on to AA

KoryMac5
08-01-2008, 01:10 AM
Left the Burlington v. Dayton game early and a few things on a rough night so far. Mesoraco can hit the ball, and looks like a winner. When he was on the base paths he really was into it when others got out or made contact, something about him just seems like he is a gamer. I've got to say these two games he has caught are the only ones I have seen of him but his D looks .... BAD. Two times burlington ran on him and Dayton guessed right with the pitch out and couldnt even come close to nailing them, just terrible throws from an already standing catcher. I could not even begin to count the balls that went between his legs or right past to the back stop tonight. His D has a long ways to go, and left me kind of down on the guy. Anyone know how his D is progressing and is this something that can improve?


Good observations. In cold weather states like PA a ball player can work year round on his hitting unfortunately when it comes to defense what happens outside can't be duplicated indoors. I would imagine by next year he should start improving as he gets more reps and better coaching.

Homer Bailey
08-01-2008, 01:28 AM
The DSL Reds won 9-0.

Juan Duran DNP.

Luis Machuca: 7 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 6 K

I asked it in another thread the other night but don't remember which one.

Why does Juan Duran have so many DNPs????? Is he hurt?

AmarilloRed
08-01-2008, 02:27 AM
Lookouts lost 7-0 and only got 1 hit again

Tatum:1-3

Bats lose 6-3

Barker: 3-5, double, HR
Dickerson:1-4, triple
Cumberland:3-4, double
Livingston: 6 IP, 9 hits, 4 runs, 4 ER, 1 BB

Dragons lose 6-3

Mesoraco:1-4, double
Reed:3-4, HR
Waring: 2-4

Blitz Dorsey
08-01-2008, 02:30 AM
Great, we took a DH in the first-round of the draft last year. Which wouldn't be so bad if we weren't an NL team.

I've defended the Mesoraco pick. But it looks like the reports that said he projects as a DH at the MLB level might have been correct. And it's not just this thread. Every time someone sees Mesoraco live, they talk about how his defense stinks. People also say he looks like he can hit. Alrighty then. Maybe we can use him as trade bait down the line. We need a real catcher, not a guy who has no clue behind the dish and can't throw.

AmarilloRed
08-01-2008, 02:35 AM
Mustangs win 7-2

Puckett: 2-4, double, 3 RBI
Sappelt: 2-5, triple
Wiley: 2-4, triple
Gualdron: 2-4, HR, 2 RBI
Bowman: 5 IP, 5 hits, 1 run, 1 ER, 3 BB, 2 K
Freeman: 3 IP,1 hit, 3 K

camisadelgolf
08-01-2008, 03:19 AM
Devosaco is 20 years old and learning the most complicated position on the field. I'm not going to freak out about his defense for at least two more years.

icehole3
08-01-2008, 05:36 AM
what reports say he's a DH, I dont expect you'll produce any link but I had to ask this.

camisadelgolf
08-01-2008, 06:59 AM
Any connections I heard between Mesoraco and being a DH were a result of him having TJ surgery. I don't think anyone in the world said Mesoraco didn't have the tools to be a good catcher.

princeton
08-01-2008, 10:15 AM
Devosaco is 20 years old and learning the most complicated position on the field. I'm not going to freak out about his defense for at least two more years.

if a bat's just way ahead of a glove, teams often make switches because it's important to challenge thy hitters. this happens more with shortstops, but has also happened for quite a few catchers

Reds moved Eric Davis and Reggie Sanders off of shortstop at around age 20, and Joey Votto away from catcher at around, what, 22?

FWIW, since Thumbs doesn't have stellar hitting numbers, I think that he'll stay at catcher in hopes that he figures it out. Learning to catch takes a long time, though.

M2
08-01-2008, 10:27 AM
FWIW, since Thumbs doesn't have stellar hitting numbers, I think that he'll stay at catcher in hopes that he figures it out. Learning to catch takes a long time, though.

Totally agreed.

Votto got moved off catcher at age 19, after putting up an .873 OPS in the GCL.

dougdirt
08-01-2008, 11:56 AM
Great, we took a DH in the first-round of the draft last year. Which wouldn't be so bad if we weren't an NL team.

I've defended the Mesoraco pick. But it looks like the reports that said he projects as a DH at the MLB level might have been correct. And it's not just this thread. Every time someone sees Mesoraco live, they talk about how his defense stinks. People also say he looks like he can hit. Alrighty then. Maybe we can use him as trade bait down the line. We need a real catcher, not a guy who has no clue behind the dish and can't throw.

Mesoraco has the tools to play catcher and to play it well. He just needs to work on some things, just like every other player in the minor leagues.

mace
08-01-2008, 12:04 PM
I can't start threads, but does anybody know what the problem might be with Chattanooga? My goodness, the Lookouts got 17 hits in their 5-game series with Mississippi. They were shut out three times and one-hit twice in a row (last night and the night before). With Valaika, Dorn, Henry, Stubbs, Turner and Gutierrez, that should be a pretty good lineup. Are guys playing hurt, or being exposed, or what?

dougdirt
08-01-2008, 12:16 PM
I can't start threads, but does anybody know what the problem might be with Chattanooga? My goodness, the Lookouts got 17 hits in their 5-game series with Mississippi. They were shut out three times and one-hit twice in a row (last night and the night before). With Valaika, Dorn, Henry, Stubbs, Turner and Gutierrez, that should be a pretty good lineup. Are guys playing hurt, or being exposed, or what?

It just happens sometimes.