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SteelSD
08-03-2008, 12:28 AM
Not sure if the movie will do the Watchmen series justice, but the trailer sure does. Here's the link to the site:

http://watchmenmovie.warnerbros.com/

If you're a comic book fan and have yet to read this 12-issue series by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons or the graphic novel compiling the entire series, then you need to do so immediately. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Just go read it. I'm stunned as to how true the trailer is to the vision brought forth. Doctor Manhatten, in particular, is exactly as I envisioned on the silver screen as is Rorschach. Even the Owlship looks tremendous.

I'm waiting entirely impatiently for this film to premier.

pahster
08-03-2008, 12:59 AM
Not sure if the movie will do the Watchmen series justice, but the trailer sure does. Here's the link to the site:

http://watchmenmovie.warnerbros.com/

If you're a comic book fan and have yet to read this 12-issue series by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons or the graphic novel compiling the entire series, then you need to do so immediately. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Just go read it. I'm stunned as to how true the trailer is to the vision brought forth. Doctor Manhatten, in particular, is exactly as I envisioned on the silver screen as is Rorschach. Even the Owlship looks tremendous.

I'm waiting entirely impatiently for this film to premier.


I have a feeling people who have not read the series will be disappointed in the movie's (presumably, assuming of course that it's true to its source) lack of explosions and whatnot. I can hear it now: "Too much talkin'!"

SteelSD
08-03-2008, 01:03 AM
I have a feeling people who have not read the series will be disappointed in the movie's (presumably, assuming of course that it's true to its source) lack of explosions and whatnot. I can hear it now: "Too much talkin'!"

That's exactly what I liked about the series. Alan Moore is a master of dialogue. Frankly, I'm still surprised that he allowed this movie to happen without his ultimate sign-off. That being said, I think there's enough action in those 12 issues to satisfy even the most greedy viewer. It just has to be compressed into two-odd hours. ;)

Raisor
08-03-2008, 11:19 AM
That's exactly what I liked about the series. Alan Moore is a master of dialogue. Frankly, I'm still surprised that he allowed this movie to happen without his ultimate sign-off. That being said, I think there's enough action in those 12 issues to satisfy even the most greedy viewer. It just has to be compressed into two-odd hours. ;)


Moore doesn't have any say, it was work for hire, and he's washed his hands of Hollywood anyway. Thankgoodness at least Gibbons has been involved.

The trailer is teh awesome. I can't believe that Kelly Leak from the Bad News Bears is freaking Rorschach

Johnny Footstool
08-03-2008, 03:20 PM
Those of you with iTunes can watch a semi-animated version of the original comic for free. It uses all the original art and dialog. It's extremely well-done. The only drawback is that there is only one actor doing the voices, and it sucks when he's doing the women's parts.

WVRed
08-03-2008, 03:58 PM
I have a feeling this movie will be similar to V for Vendetta. Comic book movie, but with more of a message correlating with a vision of the future.

That being said, it does look good.

Oxilon
08-03-2008, 10:03 PM
I'm not really sure I like Zach Snyder as the director. Both Dawn of the Dead and 300 were all about special effects and action and that won't just work with Watchmen. Watchmen (I'm reading the graphic novel right now) isn't about superheroes with all this action rather an very well written mystery/suspense with lots of politcal connections. There's very deep story in this series, for more than anything from Dawn of the Dead and 300, and I fear Snyder won't be able to captivate it and rather turn it into another run-of-the-mill special effects superhero movie. Ofcourse, I do indeed hope Snyder can pull it off.

SteelSD
08-03-2008, 11:09 PM
Moore doesn't have any say, it was work for hire, and he's washed his hands of Hollywood anyway. Thankgoodness at least Gibbons has been involved.

You're right that Moore doesn't have any say and he has thusfar spurned Hollywood's attempts to credit and even pay him for previous offerings (V for Vendetta, Constantine). But "Watchmen" is Moore's real comic book legacy. It's nice that Gibbons is being given Moore's share of the loot, but if I'm making "Watchmen" I'd do pretty much everything I could to get Moore on-set every single day. Instead, the studio- assuming that Moore wanted nothing to do with the project- a form letter allowing Moore to take his name off the project entirely. While Moore may claim that the letter was welcome after previous debacles, that book was his baby (along with Gibbons). It wasn't just "work for hire".

I can understand why Moore, as crazy as he is, would be ticked off. Heck, the rights for "Watchmen" were supposed to be owned by Moore and Gibbons after the book went out of print. Problem was, the two created something so good that it's still in print, in graphic novel form, 20 years later. So they're offered scraps for what should be theirs and theirs alone. At this point, Moore is basically the "learned helplessness" side of the coin versus the late Jack Kirby, who fought for years over creator rights. Moore seems to have no interest in continuing that battle for whatever reason. Instead, he seems to want to play the role of "tortured artist". While that may be noble, it sure isn't moving the product forward; either in Hollywood or in print.

Alan Moore has been a whole bunch of naive in the past and that's resulted in a whole lot of laying down from him over projects and a more than goodly dose of paranoia and general grumpiness, but I have a feeling that he'd be just fine should someone ever actually ask him to have a major say in something based off his work while actually listening to him and then reward him accordingly. Instead, what we now see is a guy who simply doesn't want to be part of industries that have used him, abused him, and spit him out.

Part of the issue is, of course, Moore himself. Frank Miller could just as easily been "that guy" but instead got smart about what he was doing. But while Moore has never been able to play politics, that doesn't mean that a studio couldn't possibly ever accomodate him. And they should because what the guy produces is eons above that which Hollywood is normally capable. The proliferation of movies based on comics/graphic novels is clear evidence of how far behind the times Hollywood is from a writing standpoint. If they don't start looking to the actual creators as more than folks who'll produce your average-level movie script, they'll be sunk eventually.

There's a movie renaissance happening. I think Hollywood is scared that it's not happening internally and I don't think they have any idea how actively pursuing a guy like Alan Moore makes the product better. That's a huge shame.


The trailer is teh awesome. I can't believe that Kelly Leak from the Bad News Bears is freaking Rorschach

That's great casting and the trailer is the RAWK!

Johnny Footstool
08-04-2008, 12:25 AM
I'm hoping the trailer is cut specifically to appeal to people who haven't read Watchmen. The beauty of the story is in the internal conflicts, not the 'splosions.

BTW - I just watched the iTunes "motion comic" again. Awesome.

WVRed
12-18-2008, 09:50 PM
New trailer:

http://watchmenmovie.warnerbros.com/

GIK
03-06-2009, 11:12 AM
Thought I'd bump this since the movie is now out.

Who's planning on seeing it this weekend? It's been getting mixed reviews, but I have tickets for tomorrow night at the local IMAX and am looking forward to it.

RichRed
03-06-2009, 12:20 PM
I have a feeling people who have not read the series will be disappointed in the movie's (presumably, assuming of course that it's true to its source) lack of explosions and whatnot. I can hear it now: "Too much talkin'!"

That is EXACTLY the type of review I'm seeing from people on other message boards who didn't read the series first. I've just started to read the graphic novel for the first time myself and I'm hooked. I can't wait to finish the book and see how the movie measures up.

Johnny Footstool
03-06-2009, 12:22 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Watchmen-Complete-Digital-BD-Live-Blu-ray/dp/B001QFYLKS/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Highly recommended.

LoganBuck
03-06-2009, 01:07 PM
Friend of mine who runs a movie theater sent me these texts this morning. He watched it last night, while setting it up to run.

"Watchmen sux, too long, too dark"
"Disney made this movie already, The Incredibles"

Johnny Footstool
03-06-2009, 02:14 PM
Friend of mine who runs a movie theater sent me these texts this morning. He watched it last night, while setting it up to run.

"Watchmen sux, too long, too dark"
"Disney made this movie already, The Incredibles"

Well, the Incredibles was pretty dark... in a "not dark at all" sort of way.

LoganBuck
03-06-2009, 02:51 PM
Well, the Incredibles was pretty dark... in a "not dark at all" sort of way.

By dark, I think he meant screen contrast

The Baumer
03-06-2009, 03:17 PM
I saw this last night. Not having read the graphic novel but being a big fan of comic book mythos, I naturally loved it. The opening title sequence is something to behold, perfect choice of images and music. Also it is painful to get so invested in the story, fall in love with Malin Ackerman, and then have to leave her a few hours later and return home to reality. Sigh.

Spitball
03-07-2009, 02:58 PM
We just got our tickets to IMAX for a 3:40 showing! I'll check in later.

pahster
03-07-2009, 08:20 PM
I was pleasently surprised. David Hayter did a good job with the script. He kept much the dialog intact. There was one change at the end of the movie that I felt was a bit silly, but it didn't ruin the film for me. I'd give it a 4.5 out of 5.

Don't take your children, though.

Emin3mShady07
03-07-2009, 09:08 PM
I thought it was really, really good. I had never read the print version, but I still really enjoyed the movie. I am thinking about going a second time.

Degenerate39
03-07-2009, 09:26 PM
I think I may go see it tomorrow. Not to excited about about Dr. M's privates though

GIK
03-07-2009, 11:23 PM
Just got back, and while I liked it (didn't love it), my wife about killed me for taking her to it. Think twice before you bring your significant other (and definitely, IMO, do not bring your kid if they're young...we saw a few young kids in the theater and a few were removed by their parents...I definitely would have had to do the same).

WVRed
03-07-2009, 11:37 PM
Just got back, and while I liked it (didn't love it), my wife about killed me for taking her to it. Think twice before you bring your significant other (and definitely, IMO, do not bring your kid if they're young...we saw a few young kids in the theater and a few were removed by their parents...I definitely would have had to do the same).

I tried getting mine to go with me tonight. She politely declined.

I would also agree on not taking the kids. I'm going to try my best not to ruin it for those who haven't seen the movie, but even with the violence and sex scene (one that makes me wonder how some of these movies get R ratings), just the political and idealogical overtones of the movie would make me uncomfortable if I had a child wanting to see this movie. It kinda reminded me of Dark Knight in that regard.

With that out of the way, it was a good movie. You have to really either know the comic book or follow the movie good enough to know what is really going on though. There is so much to keep up with since they retrace all the origins and everything throughout the movie.

Spitball
03-08-2009, 12:07 AM
Excellent movie. The ending was not exactly true to the original graphic novel, but it was truly a great movie.

The Baumer
03-08-2009, 01:35 AM
SPOILER LINK!

If you've seen the movie you know how great the opening credits were. Well, now you can re-live them on your computer screen! So perfectly done!

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/the-watchmen-opening-credits-are-online

MrCinatit
03-08-2009, 04:02 AM
Saw it yesterday. I enjoyed it quite a bit. It has been a very long time (17 years) since I have read the graphic novel.
By the by, the reason they did not end it the way they did in the novel is that because there was a side-story in the novel that would have taken too much time to explain - and the introduction of that element would have been too confusing to viewers.

missionhockey21
03-08-2009, 07:18 AM
Saw it yesterday. I enjoyed it quite a bit. It has been a very long time (17 years) since I have read the graphic novel.
By the by, the reason they did not end it the way they did in the novel is that because there was a side-story in the novel that would have taken too much time to explain - and the introduction of that element would have been too confusing to viewers.
I heard that the "Tales of the Black Freighter" story will make the Blu-Ray cut, so the squid is in at least later.

(I haven't seen the film yet.)

Razor Shines
03-09-2009, 03:51 AM
SPOILER LINK!

If you've seen the movie you know how great the opening credits were. Well, now you can re-live them on your computer screen! So perfectly done!

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/the-watchmen-opening-credits-are-online

They took that one down. Here is another one that works (for now).

http://pixelatedgeek.com/2009/03/watchmen-opening-credits-video/

Caveat Emperor
03-09-2009, 11:57 AM
Saw this last night -- I've never read the graphic novel before (might have to pick that up now), but I was able to follow things well enough.

The soundtrack was amazing.

Degenerate39
03-09-2009, 08:32 PM
What's the Bob Dylan song on the opening credits?

pahster
03-09-2009, 09:13 PM
What's the Bob Dylan song on the opening credits?

"The Times They Are A-Changin'."

The Baumer
03-09-2009, 09:16 PM
Too slow!

Spitball
03-12-2009, 06:29 PM
The soundtrack was amazing.

The visual and audio effects of "The Times They Are A-Changin'" and especially Jimi Hendrix's version of "All Along the Watchtower" were worth the price of admission. I saw it at an IMAX, and it was awesome.

savafan
03-12-2009, 09:15 PM
FYI, the opening credits are now here: http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/151155/detail/