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Griffey012
08-05-2008, 03:48 PM
IMO Majik doesn't really have an important future role with our bullpen. Being a fairly hard throwing sinkerballer, what do you all think about converting him to a starter. Early in his minor league career he was a starter and eventually was converted to a reliever. To me he could maybe turn into a decent 5th starter on our club because of his groundball numbers in our ballpark, and if he doesn't turn out he is easily replaceable in the pen' or could just be used as a long man.

captainmorgan07
08-05-2008, 03:58 PM
No way his arm holds up to be a starter. He's had arm trouble in the past so it's safe to say he's a bull pen guy the rest of his career.

Griffey012
08-05-2008, 04:12 PM
Outside of his shoulder issues at the time of "the trade" what other kind of injury history does he have?

Javy Pornstache
08-05-2008, 04:16 PM
I believe he'd never have been converted to a reliever to begin with if he could hack it even as a 5th starter. This guy is pyrite in its purest form, no two ways around it.

ChatterRed
08-05-2008, 04:22 PM
I hear on 70's night Majewski is going to wear some of those old black-rimmed glasses. ;)

DannyB
08-05-2008, 05:34 PM
I think it might be worth a shot,but I doubt he will ever get the chance here.

757690
08-05-2008, 05:37 PM
To be honest, i would rather the Reds move Bray into the rotation. He has better stuff, and when he was drafted, scouts thought he could be either a starter or reliever.

Griffey012
08-05-2008, 06:25 PM
To be honest, i would rather the Reds move Bray into the rotation. He has better stuff, and when he was drafted, scouts thought he could be either a starter or reliever.


I would give Bray another 1 or 2 season's in the pen first, he is still pretty young. But then if he doesn't get things turned around, especially against lefties it would be worth a shot. The thing with Majik in my opinion is you aren't losing anything and you don't have to pencil him into a spot, start him in AAA with it and see how he progresses or doesn't.

bgwilly31
08-05-2008, 06:26 PM
IMO Majik doesn't really have an important future role with our bullpen. Being a fairly hard throwing sinkerballer, what do you all think about converting him to a starter. Early in his minor league career he was a starter and eventually was converted to a reliever. To me he could maybe turn into a decent 5th starter on our club because of his groundball numbers in our ballpark, and if he doesn't turn out he is easily replaceable in the pen' or could just be used as a long man.

confirms that the griffey lovers dont know or watch much baseball.

Did you even watch any games last year.

Do you ever watch majewskie pitch this year.

The guy is terrible. By far the worst pitcher in our pen and you want to convert him to a starter. :lol:

Orodle
08-05-2008, 06:29 PM
There is a reason most relievers are in the pen to begin with, they don't have the stuff to be good starting pitchers. Instead they are asked to give it their all for a few innings.

If he doesnt have a future role in our bullpen then why would he make a good starter?

757690
08-05-2008, 07:05 PM
confirms that the griffey lovers dont know or watch much baseball.

Did you even watch any games last year.

Do you ever watch majewskie pitch this year.

The guy is terrible. By far the worst pitcher in our pen and you want to convert him to a starter. :lol:

Todd Wellmeyer says hi. :wave:

bgwilly31
08-05-2008, 07:26 PM
Todd Wellmeyer says hi. :wave:

Why should i care about todd wellemeyer saying hi? :confused:

Griffey012
08-05-2008, 07:34 PM
Todd Wellmeyer says hi. :wave:

You beat me to it.

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2008, 07:35 PM
Why should i care about todd wellemeyer saying hi? :confused:

Just proves that people who hate JR do not know anything about or watch baseball.

Griffey012
08-05-2008, 07:44 PM
confirms that the griffey lovers dont know or watch much baseball.

Did you even watch any games last year.

Do you ever watch majewskie pitch this year.

The guy is terrible. By far the worst pitcher in our pen and you want to convert him to a starter. :lol:

Yeah I have watched, thats why i said he has little future in our bullpen. However he is a low 90's sinkerballer. Sinkerballers pitch better when their arm is not full strength, because they get more action on their pitches. Majik in the pen is full strength when he comes in and knows he only has an inning or 2. Almost has a 2:1 gb to fb ratio this year, and a decent amount of k's. What do we have to lose? A filler in the bullpen? Odds are it won't work, but it might be worth a look.

Orodle
08-05-2008, 08:03 PM
As a starter you pitch every 5th day. Chances are your arm is at full strength every time out unless you have some hindering injury or such. Usually arms are much more tired out of the pen.

Graves' sinker suffered when moved to the rotation and his sinker in his prime was 10x better than what Majewski has.


Yeah I have watched, thats why i said he has little future in our bullpen. However he is a low 90's sinkerballer. Sinkerballers pitch better when their arm is not full strength, because they get more action on their pitches. Majik in the pen is full strength when he comes in and knows he only has an inning or 2. Almost has a 2:1 gb to fb ratio this year, and a decent amount of k's. What do we have to lose? A filler in the bullpen? Odds are it won't work, but it might be worth a look.

Griffey012
08-05-2008, 08:18 PM
As a starter you pitch every 5th day. Chances are your arm is at full strength every time out unless you have some hindering injury or such. Usually arms are much more tired out of the pen.

Graves' sinker suffered when moved to the rotation and his sinker in his prime was 10x better than what Majewski has.

You spend more time in the bullpen pregame getting lose, you have much more time to get lose. Also, you are heading into the start aiming to go at least 5+ innings, you are not going to be throwing with the idea of this inning and I am done. Its a spring in the bullpen and a mile race as a starter. And between starts, starters throw bullpen session of 20-30 pitches once or twice. Starting every 5th days wheres down your arm much more than throwing an innings every 3rd or 4th day.

And as a comparison to Graves, Graves was good and important to our bullpen, Majik is not near as important so we are risking it like we did with Graves.

JR+Rose=G.O.A.T
08-05-2008, 08:38 PM
confirms that the griffey lovers dont know or watch much baseball.

Did you even watch any games last year.

Do you ever watch majewskie pitch this year.

The guy is terrible. By far the worst pitcher in our pen and you want to convert him to a starter. :lol:

just wondering since you know everything why is you dont work for the reds??:D

Orodle
08-05-2008, 09:31 PM
Have you ever pitched every 4th or 5th day and compared it to pitching say 7 innings over a 1 weeks span? bullpen wears your arm down

Griffey012
08-05-2008, 10:53 PM
As a matter of fact I have done quite a bit of pitching in my life, as a sinkerballer too. I am speaking from firsthand experience with a sinker. Majik's sinker I am sure doesn't react identically to mine, but I have thrown every 4th or 5th day or closer together, and pitched relief. Throwing 100 pitches breaks your arm down and you can hardly throw a ball if you can at all the day after, and it is sore and tender for at least 2 days. By the time you are just feeling good and getting up to par youi are out there for another 100 pitchers, its a vigorous cycle.

Have you ever pitched every 4th or 5th day and compared it to pitching say 7 innings over a 1 week span?

If majik throws 7 innings in a week it's mop up duty anyway.

roby
08-06-2008, 01:46 AM
As a matter of fact I have done quite a bit of pitching in my life, as a sinkerballer too. I am speaking from firsthand experience with a sinker. Majik's sinker I am sure doesn't react identically to mine, but I have thrown every 4th or 5th day or closer together, and pitched relief. Throwing 100 pitches breaks your arm down and you can hardly throw a ball if you can at all the day after, and it is sore and tender for at least 2 days. By the time you are just feeling good and getting up to par youi are out there for another 100 pitchers, its a vigorous cycle.

Have you ever pitched every 4th or 5th day and compared it to pitching say 7 innings over a 1 week span?

If majik throws 7 innings in a week it's mop up duty anyway.

Is that you, Doc Rogers??? ;)

Orodle
08-06-2008, 05:05 PM
I too have done quite a bit of pitching both out of the pen and in a rotation. Unless your being babied in the pen and not throwing at all it doesnt compare to being a ball and told to get ready in 5 minutes a few times over a week. Not to mention anytime you warm up and dont actually go into a game.

kpresidente
08-06-2008, 05:33 PM
For the record, he did start 63 games in the minors.

Griffey012
08-06-2008, 05:49 PM
I too have done quite a bit of pitching both out of the pen and in a rotation. Unless your being babied in the pen and not throwing at all it doesnt compare to being a ball and told to get ready in 5 minutes a few times over a week. Not to mention anytime you warm up and dont actually go into a game.

Majewski is in mop up duty in the bullpen. Dusty doesn't have confidence in him, so he is only up and throwing when things are bad. Which brings me to my point of saying it might not be a bad idea to try Majik as a started in the off-season because it's not a loss if it doesn't work out for anything. I wasn't trying to discuss how certain pitchers arm's react to different situations.