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mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 07:04 PM
Houston Astros

1 K. Matsui 2B
2 M. Tejada SS
3 L. Berkman 1B
4 Ca. Lee LF
5 M. Loretta 3B
6 H. Pence RF
7 M. Bourn CF
8 H. Quintero C
9 B. Moehler P

Reds

1 J. Keppinger SS
2 C. Patterson CF
3 J. Bruce RF
4 B. Phillips 2B
5 A. Dunn LF
6 E. Encarnacion 3B
7 Ja. Valentin 1B
8 P. Bako C
9 B. Arroyo P

NC Reds
08-09-2008, 07:58 PM
Both Patterson and Bako? Weak. Now watch the Reds score 7 runs.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 08:00 PM
I thought you couldn't bat two lefties back to back?

CTA513
08-09-2008, 08:12 PM
Arroyo gets ahead 0-2 then walks the first batter of the game.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 08:17 PM
Already down 1-0... nothing new here.

Gainesville Red
08-09-2008, 08:20 PM
Already down 1-0... nothing new here.

Yep, 1-0 bases loaded, no outs.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 08:20 PM
Arroyo walks Lee to load the bases with 0 outs.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 08:23 PM
1. Marsui walks
2. Tejada singles
3. Berkman singles, 1-0 stros.
4. Lee walks, sacks juiced.
5. Loretta lines softly to Phillips, one out.
6. Pence 6-4-3.

'stros 1, Reds coming up.

BCubb2003
08-09-2008, 08:24 PM
Sparkling defense.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 08:29 PM
6 pitch 1-2-3 inning for Moehler.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 08:29 PM
1. Keppinger lines to 2nd.
2. Patterson hits a weak foul pop to 3rd.
3. Bruce flies out to left.

After 1: Astros 1, Reds 0.
Arroyo 28 pitches, 15 strikes.
Moehler 6 pitches, 5 strikes.


Hacktastic, once again.

oneupper
08-09-2008, 08:33 PM
Welsh giving it to the "hacking Reds".

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 08:34 PM
7. Bourn Ks swinging.
8. Quintero Ks swinging.
9. Moehler Ks swinging.

Astros 1, Reds 0.

Nice inning!

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 08:43 PM
4. Phillips Ks swinging.
5. Dunn works the count full, then bounces out to first.
6. Encarnacion Ks swinging.

After 2; Astros 1, Reds

Arroyo 41 pitches, 25 strikes.
Moehler 20 pitches, 15 strikes.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 08:43 PM
I bet other teams pitchers can't wait to face the Reds.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 08:55 PM
Arroyo makes Carlos Lee have to leave the game after hitting him in the hand and making his pinky all bloody.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 08:57 PM
1. Matsui lines a singles to left.
2. Tejada bounces into a 4-3 double play.
3. Berkman walks.
4. Lee HBP in the hand, ooooh, blood. Out of the game. Erstad to pinch run.
5. Loretta flies out to Bruce in right.

Arroyo with another high pitch inning (27 pitches).

Middle of the 3rd: Astros 1, Reds 0.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 09:02 PM
Valentin singles then Bako follows up by hitting into a double play.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 09:03 PM
7. Valentin singles.
8. Bako hits into a 6-4-3.
9. Arroyo grounds out to third.

After 3; Astros 1, Reds 0.

Arroyo 67 pitches, 38 strikes.
Moehler 29 pitches, 22 strikes.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 09:10 PM
6. Pence Ks swinging.
7. Bourn Ks swinging.
8. Quintero grounds to a diving Valentin at first.

Mid 4th: Astros 1, Reds 0.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 09:19 PM
Red's 4th:
1. Keppinger grounds out to third.
2. Patterson grounds out to 1st.
3. Bruce bounces to second, Matsui throws the ball into the camera bay. Bruce on second. Single, E-4 on the throw.
4. Phillips grounds out to 3rd on the first pitch.

After 4: Astros 1, Reds 0.

Arroyo 83 pitches, 49 strikes.
Moehler 41 pitches, 28 strikes.

HokieRed
08-09-2008, 09:21 PM
Wayne Krivsky's offense is making Brian Moehler look like Roger Clemens.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 09:24 PM
Red's 4th:
1. Keppinger grounds out to third.
2. Patterson grounds out to 1st.
3. Bruce bounces to second, Matsui throws the ball into the camera bay. Bruce on second. Single, E-4 on the throw.
4. Phillips grounds out to 3rd on the first pitch.

After 4: Astros 1, Reds 0.

Arroyo 83 pitches, 49 strikes.
Moehler 41 pitches, 28 strikes.

Average of about 10 pitches per inning.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 09:26 PM
Moehler with a double (1st hit this season), Matsui bunts him to 3rd and he scores on a wild pitch.

2-0 Astros.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 09:30 PM
9. Moehler doubles into the left-center field gap. (1st hit in 28 ABs this year)
1. Matsui bunts Moehler to third. One out.
While Tejada batting, Arroyo throws one between Bako's legs, Moehler scores. (Wild pitch).
2. Tejada Ks swinging.
3. Berkman walks.
4. Erstad flies to Patterson.

Mid 5th: Astros 2, Reds 0.

Pitcher had to run the bases...lets see if the Reds can get to him now.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 09:31 PM
Arroyo is now at 106 pitches and it looks like the bullpen has to cover another 4 innings tonight.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 09:35 PM
Arroyo broke Lees pinky when he hit him earlier in the game.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 09:38 PM
Red's 5th:
5. Dunn grounds out hard to Matsui in the hole (another shift related out).
6. Encarnacion gounds out to shortstop.
7. Valentin hits the first pitch to ground out to first.


After 5: Astros 2, Reds 0.

Arroyo 106 pitches, 62 strikes.
Moehler 53 pitches, 35 strikes.

KronoRed
08-09-2008, 09:38 PM
Wayne Krivsky's offense is making Brian Moehler look like Roger Clemens.

Just as much Walt's baby now. :D

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 09:40 PM
Fireworks alert: Arroyo out for the 6th with 106 pitches already....

Line against Arroyo after 106 pitches: .400/.400/.467 for an OPS of .867

CTA513
08-09-2008, 09:40 PM
I guess Arroyo is going to stay in and try to eat another inning.

KronoRed
08-09-2008, 09:41 PM
Fireworks alert: Arroyo out for the 6th with 106 pitches already....

Only good things can come from this.:thumbup:

CTA513
08-09-2008, 09:41 PM
Fireworks alert: Arroyo out for the 6th with 106 pitches already....

Its either him or keep using up the bullpen for about 4 innings per game.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 09:45 PM
5. Loretta bounces a single off EE's glove to Kepp, throw not in time.
6. Pence flies to center.
7. Bourn flies to right.
8. Quintero Ks swinging.

Mid 6th: Astros 2, Reds 0.

Arroyo now at 118 pitches, with 7 Ks. Bronson with a quality start.

oneupper
08-09-2008, 09:48 PM
Rosales on deck. ML debut, I believe.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 09:50 PM
Rosales just showed he can do what the other players are currently doing.

oneupper
08-09-2008, 09:51 PM
Rosales with a first pitch out. He'll fit in fine around here.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 09:51 PM
8. Bako Ks swinging.
9. Rosales (for Arroyo) flies to warning track in right (on the first pitch: he will fit right in).
1. Keppinger flies to right.

After 6: Astros 2, Reds 0.

Arroyo 118 pitches, 70 strikes.
Brian 'Cy" Moehler 61 pitches, 41 strikes.

WVRedsFan
08-09-2008, 09:52 PM
Reds have 2 hits tonight in another example of how bad of a hitting club this is. They may never win again with the present personnel. I have to believe that this roster is one of the worst in Reds history. Hackers everywhere.

WVRedsFan
08-09-2008, 09:54 PM
Affeldt on in relief. Bombs Away Dream Babies!

On the other side of the field, we probably have scored all the runs we are going to score tonight. Sad.

HokieRed
08-09-2008, 09:55 PM
Certainly one of the very worst teams in the last 50 years. A few more years of this and I really fear for the franchise.

KronoRed
08-09-2008, 09:56 PM
If I were Dunn I might fake an injury and skip out on the last 8 weeks of this stuff, he may never get hot again surrounded by the hacktastic brady bunch and Jay Bruce.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 09:56 PM
Nice job by Affeldt to put the Reds even deeper in the hole.

HokieRed
08-09-2008, 09:58 PM
I don't know how you all feel about Affeldt, but I hope he's not back next year. Another vastly overpaid Krivsky bullpen failure.

WVRedsFan
08-09-2008, 09:58 PM
I fear for it already. Unless something is done soon, it will be a task that not only no one will want to tackle, but dang near impossible without 100's of millions of dollars. The sins of Jim Bowden, Dan O'Brien, Wayne Krivsky, Carl Lindner, and finally Robert Castillini will have, in effect, destroyed one of the oldest franchises in sports history.

oneupper
08-09-2008, 09:59 PM
If I were Dunn I might fake an injury and skip out on the last 8 weeks of this stuff, he may never get hot again surrounded by the hacktastic brady bunch and Jay Bruce.

With all the talk about bringing Dunn back or not, it might be moot.
Why would he want to return to this mess?

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 09:59 PM
Affeldt in for Arroyo.

9. Moehler Ks looking.
1. Matsui grounds to EE on a nice roll over play.
2. Tejada homers to the first row in right.
3. Berkman Ks swinging.

Mid 7th: Astros 3, Reds 0.

WVRedsFan
08-09-2008, 10:01 PM
With all the talk about bringing Dunn back or not, it might be moot.
Why would he want to return to this mess?
With his buds Griffey and Kearns gone, and the condition of this club, he'd have to be an idiot to return.

BCubb2003
08-09-2008, 10:02 PM
The fans have given up, but the players have to keep playing.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 10:03 PM
With all the talk about bringing Dunn back or not, it might be moot.
Why would he want to return to this mess?

If I was him I wouldn't even answer the Reds calls in the offseason.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 10:12 PM
2. Patterson bunts(on the 1st pitch) down the first base line, hesitates to see if it stays fair, then is thrown out by a step.
3. Bruce singles to right.
4. Phillips singles into the hole between 1st and 2nd.
5. Dunn flies to center, Bruce tags and goes to 3rd.
6. Encarnacion bounces to short, Tejada fumbles it, infield hit, Bruce scores!
7. Valentin flies out to left.

After 7: Astros 3, Reds 1.

Moehler 80 pitches, 52 strikes.
Affeldt 12 pitches, 9 strikes.

BCubb2003
08-09-2008, 10:18 PM
They need that much-maligned minor-league policy where the batter must take the first two pitches.

jesusfan
08-09-2008, 10:19 PM
After tonight, the reds would have the 5th pick in next years draft only % points below the Indians...

CTA513
08-09-2008, 10:20 PM
After tonight, the reds would have the 5th pick in next years draft only % points below the Indians...

If they keep playing like this they can go for the #1 pick.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 10:21 PM
4. Erstad singles up the middle.
Weathers in for Affeldt, and Jolbert Cabrera for EE at third in a double-switch.
5. Loretta pops out to deep short.
6. Pence grounds into a 4-6-3 double play.

Mid 8th: Astros 3, Reds 1.

WVRedsFan
08-09-2008, 10:23 PM
You have to wonder what happens to players and pitchers when they come to the Reds. It must be something in the water.

Last year, Affeldt at Colorado, pitched 59 innings and allowed 47 hits. This year, he has already pitched more innings (60) and allowed more hits (61). Cordero pitched 63 innings and allowed 52 hits but only walked 18 all year. He's already walked 31 here and his ERA has balooned by a run.

Can't figure it out at all.

oneupper
08-09-2008, 10:25 PM
If they keep playing like this they can go for the #1 pick.

That's a stretch, because the Ms, Nats and Padres have a huge lead over the REDs. Fifth looks very attainable, perhaps 4th, especially if the reds keep fielding these players.

WVRedsFan
08-09-2008, 10:27 PM
Kepp 3-27 lately.

Awesome.

WVRedsFan
08-09-2008, 10:29 PM
Make that 3-28 -- a .107 average and he's hitting leadoff? The fact that they continue to play him only proves that we have no bench, another failure at formulating a roster.

oneupper
08-09-2008, 10:29 PM
Astros bring in a lefty to face Patterson. Question is, why bother?

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 10:32 PM
Reds 8th: Geary in for Moehler.
8. Bako walks.
9. Cabrera dribbles one in front of plate, out at first, Bako to second.
1. Keppinger hits a high fly out to right.
Tim Byrdak in for Geary to face the powerful Patterson. Dusty stands pat.
2. The mighty Patterson Ks swinging on 4 pitches.

After 8: Astros 3, Reds 1.

jesusfan
08-09-2008, 10:32 PM
That isn't even funny... Leaving Patterson in to face the lefty is so blatant it's unreal... Is baker trying to get fired?

oneupper
08-09-2008, 10:33 PM
Dusty? Phillips for Patterson...Cabrera to RF, Phillips to 3B

How hard is that?

TeamBoone
08-09-2008, 10:35 PM
I think Chris Welsh was disgusted as well.

oneupper
08-09-2008, 10:36 PM
I think Chris Welsh was disgusted as well.

Welsh is going to end up having a problem with Dusty, I'm afraid.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 10:38 PM
Astros 9th:

7. Bourn Ks swinging.
8. Quintero singles up the middle.
9. Newhan (for Byrdak) 4-6-3.

Mid 8th: Astros 3, Reds 1.

Well boys, what's it going to be? A 3-1 loss, or a walk off win? Do ya care?

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 10:39 PM
Welsh is going to end up having a problem with Dusty, I'm afraid.
The club meets here every night the Reds play. Welcome, Chris!

CTA513
08-09-2008, 10:39 PM
I think Chris Welsh was disgusted as well.

He's getting tired of how the hitters are just going up hacking and how Baker let Patterson hit against Byrdak when he had 3 right handed bats on the bench.

He also said something about the Reds having Hairston on the roster when he's not healthy enough to play right now.

Tony Cloninger
08-09-2008, 10:41 PM
Good for Welsh. Welsh has cajones and speaks for us.

TeamBoone
08-09-2008, 10:42 PM
Welsh is going to end up having a problem with Dusty, I'm afraid.

It's pretty bad when the TV commentator is smarter than the manager.

I've been trying to keep an open mind, but frankly, Dusty isn't a very savvy manager. He has so may tools at his disposal but refuses to use them. Whether is stubborness or ignorance, I don't know. If it's the latter, he needs to get with it.

oneupper
08-09-2008, 10:44 PM
He also said something about the Reds having Hairston on the roster when he's not healthy enough to play right now.

It was also not so smart sending him up to PH vs. Milwaukee, when they could have DLed him retroactively to Aug 1st.

oneupper
08-09-2008, 10:46 PM
Good for Welsh. Welsh has cajones and speaks for us.

I agree. But in manager vs announcer fights, the announcer usually loses his job.

TeamBoone
08-09-2008, 10:51 PM
I agree. But in manager vs announcer fights, the announcer usually loses his job.

Huh. Funny though, Marty is still here...

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 10:51 PM
Reds 9th:
Valverde in for the save....
3. Bruce flies out to right on the 1st pitch.
4. Phillips flies to Bourn in right-center.
5. Dunn Ks swinging in a 10 pitch AB.

Final score: Astros 3, Reds 1.

Astros pitchers threw a total of 110 pitches tonight through 9 innings. Reds only struck out 5 times, but could do nothing. One walk, five hits. Absolutely pitiful. Dunn saw 24 of those 110 pitches. Everyone else just hacked away.

TeamBoone
08-09-2008, 10:52 PM
nm

CTA513
08-09-2008, 10:54 PM
Reds 9th:
Valverde in for the save....
3. Bruce flies out to right on the 1st pitch.
4. Phillips flies to Bourn in right-center.
5. Dunn Ks swinging in a 10 pitch AB.

Final score: Astros 3, Reds 1.

Astros pitchers threw a total of 110 pitches tonight through 9 innings. Reds only struck out 4 times, but could do nothing. One walk, five hits. Absolutely pitiful. Dunn saw 24 of those 110 pitches. Everyone else just hacked away.


Arroyo threw more than that in 2 less innings.

TeamBoone
08-09-2008, 10:55 PM
Dusty should talk to his players about working the count. In the 2nd or 3rd, Astros threw only 6 pitches for 3 outs.

Which, ironically, brings up another Welshism... the guy brought up for Votto (can't remember his name). Chris said he fits right in by hacking at the first pitch.

oneupper
08-09-2008, 10:59 PM
Huh. Funny though, Marty is still here...

Very true. The Reds don't pay Marty, though, I believe.

Dusty vs. Stone circa 2004 came to mind.

mbgrayson
08-09-2008, 11:00 PM
Arroyo threw more than that in 2 less innings.

Arroyo only pitched 6. He threw 118 pitches in 6, compared to 110 pitches in 9 innings.

CTA513
08-09-2008, 11:49 PM
According to the Astros site Carlos Lee is going to have surgery on his pinky finger and will be out 6-8 weeks.


http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080809&content_id=3281292&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

KittyDuran
08-10-2008, 12:18 AM
Well, I'm under .500 for the first time in awhile...:( I blame my old man. My Dad has only been to two games and the Reds lost both. :)

REDREAD
08-10-2008, 12:35 AM
Another painful night to be a Reds' fan.

Matt700wlw
08-10-2008, 03:23 AM
Very true. The Reds don't pay Marty, though, I believe.


Marty is a Reds employee

TeamBoone
08-10-2008, 02:00 PM
Very true. The Reds don't pay Marty, though, I believe.

True, but I was responding to a comment regarding announcers.