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jesusfan
08-10-2008, 10:53 AM
I was bored and was thinking about doing a reds rankings of ABSO, which is batting average, slugging %, and on base % added together and divided by 3... GREAT players should have high numbers in all 3 of them... The numbers aren't terribly shocking but a few of them are...

1. Hairston Jr .407 (192 At-bats)
2. Dunn .378
3. Votto .358
4. Phillips .355
5. Bruce .352
6. Edwin .352
7. Ross .326
8. Keppinger .309
9. Bako .282
10.Arroyo .277
11.Patterson .247 :eek:

I left Jolbert Cabrera because he only has 50 AB's, however that young man has an ABSO of .440... wow.... Griffey had an ABSO of .344 which would put him behind Edwin and in front of Ross.. Definitey not your typical #3 hitter.

btw, Josh Hamilton has an ABSO of .404, Pujols is at .476.. your MLB leader.

Here is your all-time reds list...


1.Robinson .415
2.Morgan .391
3.Klusz'ski .391
4.Seymour .389
5.Roush .386
6.Foster .385
7.Davis .383
8.Griffey .383
9.D. Young .382
10.Dunn .382

Raisor
08-10-2008, 10:54 AM
Isn't this from the Reds.com mb?

jesusfan
08-10-2008, 11:00 AM
Isn't this from the Reds.com mb?

what's that? I wish it was so I wouldn't have had to do all these calculations...

Raisor
08-10-2008, 11:05 AM
what's that? I wish it was so I wouldn't have had to do all these calculations...

The guy that says he invented this thing (I have no idea if that's true) posts about it all the time over on the Reds.com message board.

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?q=Blue+Blazer&nav=search&webtag=ml-reds

I have no idea how accurate "absolute average" is.

jesusfan
08-10-2008, 11:10 AM
The guy that says he invented this thing (I have no idea if that's true) posts about it all the time over on the Reds.com message board.

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?q=Blue+Blazer&nav=search&webtag=ml-reds

I have no idea how accurate "absolute average" is.

oh okay... that's where I seen it on redlegs blog, I didn't know it was just some random guy... lol He does have it on his blog, but his ranking are from may 6th... I thought they may need updated, since Bako is #1... lol I do agree with the point that if you are a great player, you should be high in all 3... unless of course you don't have a high slugging % because you are a lead-off Rickey Henderson type player... but even he had a .419 career slugging %...

nate
08-10-2008, 12:00 PM
It's interesting but wouldn't including BA _and_ OBP count hits doubly?

jesusfan
08-10-2008, 12:01 PM
It's interesting but wouldn't including BA _and_ OBP count hits doubly?

I guess it would... But that's okay, hits are pretty important.. :thumbup:

nate
08-10-2008, 12:11 PM
I guess it would... But that's okay, hits are pretty important.. :thumbup:

Yes. But how about something like:

(BA + IsoD + IsoP)/3

Which would only count the hits once instead of three(?) times?

There's probably already a stat for this.

Patrick Bateman
08-10-2008, 12:52 PM
The guy that says he invented this thing (I have no idea if that's true) posts about it all the time over on the Reds.com message board.

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?q=Blue+Blazer&nav=search&webtag=ml-reds

I have no idea how accurate "absolute average" is.

Well, it's full of holes, so going to be much less valuable than common stats like OPS. In this one, there's equal weighting to all 3 of the components use, which makes zero sense (and takes the equal weighting of the 2 metrics in OPS to the next level). It's why Hairston is the better player than Dunn by this metric. Hits are badly overvalued here.

westofyou
08-10-2008, 01:00 PM
It's why Hairston is the better player than Dunn by this metric. Hits are badly overvalued here.

It's like saying my 5 pennies and 9 nickels is better than your 5 dimes, when in fact they are equal.

jesusfan
08-10-2008, 01:37 PM
It's like saying my 5 pennies and 9 nickels is better than your 5 dimes, when in fact they are equal.

You can lose 5 pennies and 9 nickels easier than 5 dimes though...:p:

Patrick Bateman
08-10-2008, 02:40 PM
I left Jolbert Cabrera because he only has 50 AB's, however that young man has an ABSO of .440... wow....


FYI, that young man is 35, and has a career OPS of .674.

jesusfan
08-10-2008, 02:57 PM
FYI, that young man is 35, and has a career OPS of .674.

shew... is it pick on jesusfan day today....