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BigRed07
08-10-2008, 02:16 PM
Sarasota trails 10-1 after 4. Klinker 10 earned runs in 3 2/3. Ouch!!

BigRed07
08-10-2008, 03:32 PM
Chatt leads 2-0.
Chattanooga Bottom 3rd

* Camilo Vazquez grounds out, shortstop Matt Matulia to first baseman Jake Fox.
* Sean Henry singles on a ground ball to center fielder Sam Fuld.
* With Justin Turner batting, Mark Holliman picks off Sean Henry at 1st on throw to Jake Fox.
* Justin Turner singles on a ground ball to left fielder Tyler Colvin.
* Daniel Dorn walks. Justin Turner to 2nd.
* Tonys Gutierrez singles on a ground ball to left fielder Tyler Colvin. Justin Turner scores. Daniel Dorn to 2nd.
* Chris Valaika doubles (18) on a line drive to left fielder Tyler Colvin. Daniel Dorn scores. Tonys Gutierrez to 3rd.
* Eric Eymann strikes out swinging.

mth123
08-10-2008, 04:00 PM
Sarasota trails 10-1 after 4. Klinker 10 earned runs in 3 2/3. Ouch!!

Sarasota came all the way back. 10-10 in the 9th.

Francisco 2 for 4 with 1BB and a HR.
Frazier 1 for 5 with a 2B.
Heisey 2 for 4 with a walk and an SB (number 27).

Krebs 2.666 IP, 1H, 2K, 0ER, 0BB.

_Sir_Charles_
08-10-2008, 04:30 PM
Sarasota came all the way back. 10-10 in the 9th.

Wow, that's impressive. 10-1 in the fourth to 10-10. They need to instill that "no quit" attitude to the big club. Hopefully an infusion of youth will do that.

mace
08-10-2008, 04:39 PM
Heisey, to me, seems like one of the unsung prospects in the organization.

BigRed07
08-10-2008, 04:58 PM
Heisy walks with the bases loaded to give the Reds a 11-10
win in the 11th.

HokieRed
08-10-2008, 08:04 PM
Watson, one scoreless yesterday, one scoreless today. Sample size growing larger.

mace
08-10-2008, 08:12 PM
You know, I wish there was a stat for relievers that quantified the percentage of "good jobs" they do. A guy could come in with bases loaded and no outs 10 straight times and get out of it every time. Then he could give up a grand slam in his next appearance and his ERA would be shot. But he has still done a great job. On the other hand, a guy can come in with bases loaded 10 straight times and let in three runs every time and be charged with none of them, a 0.00 ERA. The key thing for relievers, it seems, is the frequency in which they get the job done. Obviously, that's too general a description to be metric; but you get the idea.

HokieRed
08-10-2008, 08:15 PM
It would be good to have a metric but you can get much the same info. by looking at the game by game info.: for minor leaguers, look at MILB.com and run the last ten appearances. The month by month data are useful too.

oneupper
08-10-2008, 08:16 PM
You know, I wish there was a stat for relievers that quantified the percentage of "good jobs" they do. A guy could come in with bases loaded and no outs 10 straight times and get out of it every time. Then he could give up a grand slam in his next appearance and his ERA would be shot. But he has still done a great job. On the other hand, a guy can come in with bases loaded 10 straight times and let in three runs every time and be charged with none of them, a 0.00 ERA. The key thing for relievers, it seems, is the frequency in which they get the job done. Obviously, that's too general a description to be metric; but you get the idea.

Jim Bouton in "Ball Four" used to qualify his outings that way. Excellent, Good, Poor and that's how he measured his own performance. I wouldn't be surprised if there was something like that.

AccordinglyReds
08-10-2008, 08:23 PM
I read in the paper (C-J)that (Andrew)? Means, from IU that the Reds drafted, left baseball to return to football....maybe someone else already posted on it.

crazyredfan40
08-10-2008, 08:48 PM
I read in the paper (C-J)that (Andrew)? Means, from IU that the Reds drafted, left baseball to return to football....maybe someone else already posted on it.

I believe this was the plan, for him to play his senior year of football after playing some this summer and then be back next year for baseball...

dougdirt
08-10-2008, 08:52 PM
Means and someone else whose name is slipping my mind right now both left to go play football their senior seasons in college.

OnBaseMachine
08-10-2008, 08:56 PM
Means and someone else whose name is slipping my mind right now both left to go play football their senior seasons in college.

Will Hudgens.

OnBaseMachine
08-10-2008, 08:58 PM
Louisville won 3-0.

Dickerson: 1-for-4
Richar: 1-for-3 walk
Tatum: 1-for-3

Livingston: 7 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 6 K

Roenicke: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

OnBaseMachine
08-10-2008, 09:12 PM
Chattanooga lost 9-7.

Henry: 1-for-5
Turner: 2-for-5 double
Dorn: 0-for-3 two walks
Valaika: 4-for-5 two doubles, homerun (#16), 5 RBI
Stubbs: 0-for-1

Geronimo: 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K...first run allowed in 13.1 AA innings.

Watson: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K

OnBaseMachine
08-10-2008, 09:14 PM
Sarasota won 11-10.

Heisey: 2-for-4 two walks, SB #27
Francisco: 2-for-5 homerun (#20), walk
Frazier: 1-for-5 double, walk
Parker: 2-for-4 walk, 3 RBI

Stewart: 2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K

Young: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K

OnBaseMachine
08-10-2008, 09:15 PM
Dayton lost 5-4.

Cozart: 2-for-4
Soto: 0-for-3 walk
Waring: 2-for-4
Phipps: 2-for-4

Horst: 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 6 K

OnBaseMachine
08-10-2008, 09:17 PM
Billings lost 5-3.

Puckett: 1-for-3 walk
Stovall: 1-for-4
Gualdron: 2-for-3

Linebaugh: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K

mace
08-10-2008, 09:17 PM
Louisville won 3-0.

Dickerson: 1-for-4
Richar: 1-for-3 walk
Tatum: 1-for-3

Livingston: 7 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 6 K

Roenicke: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

Given the state of the Reds' starting pitching lately, I'd expect Livingston to get the ball for them pretty darn soon.

OnBaseMachine
08-10-2008, 09:19 PM
The GCL Reds lost 6-4.

Oliveras: 1-for-5 triple
Coddington: 1-for-3 walk
Sosa: 0-for-2 two walks
Contreras: 2-for-4 double

Hildenbrandt: 4 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 1 BB, 6 K

Gil: 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 0 K

Grande Donkey
08-10-2008, 09:22 PM
Why does Stewart always pitch multiple innings every time he goes out there? It seemed to me he was at his best when he was coming in for 1 inning at a time in Dayton. Are they trying to attempt stretching him out to be a starter?

dougdirt
08-10-2008, 09:26 PM
Why does Stewart always pitch multiple innings every time he goes out there? It seemed to me he was at his best when he was coming in for 1 inning at a time in Dayton. Are they trying to attempt stretching him out to be a starter?

They probably want to fast track him and getting him a lot of innings this year will help with that.

OnBaseMachine
08-10-2008, 09:28 PM
Why does Stewart always pitch multiple innings every time he goes out there? It seemed to me he was at his best when he was coming in for 1 inning at a time in Dayton. Are they trying to attempt stretching him out to be a starter?

I have no idea why they are doing that. Donnie Scott said the Reds were wanting to limit his innings since he was a college guy and then turn around and pitch him two innings nearly every appearance. I don't get it. I hope they don't stretch him out to be a starter. He struggled as a starter in college...plus he's got a chance to be a dominant shutdown bullpen arm.

Grande Donkey
08-10-2008, 09:43 PM
They probably want to fast track him and getting him a lot of innings this year will help with that.
That would make sense.

Tony Cloninger
08-11-2008, 10:30 AM
Maybe they want him to be more than a 1 inning reliever....which would eliminate having to have more than 11 pitchers on a staff beacuse all they can do is pitch 1 inning?

Tired of these relievers who are only useful for one inning at a time and can barely pitch 3 days in a row....even while only pitching 1 inning at a time.

I am not saying that returning to the 70's and 80-'s type reliever that has 60-80 games pitched with 100-120 innings...is better...but having guys who barely pitch more innings than games does not seem to be a good thing either. Less good bench players and more actual good relievers on your team....make for a better team. Guys like Gary M would not be on the roster.

I know McKeon ran Sullivan/Graves/Williamson hard...but that was more due to the bad starting of Steve Avery/Jason Bere and even Tomko...who barely lasted 5 innings each start.