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Big Klu
08-11-2008, 12:51 PM
50 years ago (1958), a 5-4 10-inning loss at Connie Mack Stadium in Philadelphia.

Cincinnati
Eddie Miksis 3b
Bob Thurman lf
Frank Robinson cf
Walt Dropo 1b
Jerry Lynch rf
Ed Bailey c
Alex Grammas 2b
Roy McMillan ss
Bob Purkey p

Philadelphia
Richie Ashburn cf
Solly Hemus 2b
Ed Bouchee 1b
Willie Jones 3b
Harry Anderson lf
Dave Philley rf
Chico Fernandez ss
Carl Sawatski c
Don Cardwell p


WP: Don Cardwell (2-0)
LP: Willard Schmidt (2-5)
HR: CIN - Ed Bailey (8).

Don Cardwell pitched a ten-inning complete-game eight-hitter with 9 K's to get the win for the Phillies.

Big Klu
08-11-2008, 12:59 PM
45 years ago (1963), a 9-4 win at Crosley Field vs. the Dodgers.

Los Angeles
Dick Tracewski ss
Junior Gilliam 3b
Tommy Davis cf
Frank Howard lf
Al Ferrara rf
Ron Fairly 1b
Johnny Roseboro c
Marv Breeding 2b
Sandy Koufax p

Cincinnati
Pete Rose 2b
Tommy Harper rf
Vada Pinson cf
Frank Robinson lf
Gene Freese 3b
Gene Green c
Don Pavletich 1b
Leo Cardenas ss
Jim O'Toole p


WP: Jim O'Toole (15-9)
LP: Sandy Koufax (18-5)
Sv: Al Worthington (8)
HR: LA - Frank Howard (18), Tommy Davis (11). CIN - Don Pavletich (1), Frank Robinson (16).

Big Klu
08-11-2008, 01:06 PM
40 years ago (1968), an 8-5 15-inning loss at Crosley Field vs. the Cubs.

Chicago Cubs
Don Kessinger ss
Glenn Beckert 2b
Billy Williams lf
Ron Santo 3b
Ernie Banks 1b
Al Spangler rf
Randy Hundley c
Adolfo Phillips cf
Ken Holtzman p

Cincinnati
Pete Rose cf
Tommy Helms 2b
Alex Johnson lf
Lee May rf
Tony Perez 3b
Don Pavletich 1b
Pat Corrales c
Leo Cardenas ss
Jim Maloney p


WP: Phil Regan (10-2)
LP: Jay Ritchie (2-2)
Sv: Jack Lamabe (2)
HR: CHI - Billy Williams 2 (19), Ernie Banks (21). CIN - Tony Perez (13), Pete Rose (7), Johnny Bench (10).

OnBaseMachine
08-11-2008, 01:09 PM
45 years ago (1963), a 9-4 win at Crosley Field vs. the Dodgers.

Los Angeles
Dick Tracewski ss
Junior Gilliam 3b
Tommy Davis cf
Frank Howard lf
Al Ferrara rf
Ron Fairly 1b
Johnny Roseboro c
Marv Breeding 2b
Sandy Koufax p

Cincinnati
Pete Rose 2b
Tommy Harper rf
Vada Pinson cf
Frank Robinson lf
Gene Freese 3b
Gene Green c
Don Pavletich 1b
Leo Cardenas ss
Jim O'Toole p


WP: Jim O'Toole (15-9)
LP: Sandy Koufax (18-5)
Sv: Al Worthington (8)
HR: LA - Frank Howard (18), Tommy Davis (11). CIN - Don Pavletich (1), Frank Robinson (16).

As I was leaving the Reds Hall of Fame on Saturday night Chico Cardenas was entering it. I'm not sure what he was doing, maybe signing autographs or something.

Big Klu
08-11-2008, 01:13 PM
35 years ago (1973), a 7-5 10-inning win at Busch Stadium in St. Louis.

Cincinnati
Pete Rose lf
Joe Morgan 2b
Dan Driessen 3b
Tony Perez 1b
Johnny Bench c
Bobby Tolan rf
Cesar Geronimo cf
Ed Crosby ss
Jack Billingham p

St. Louis
Lou Brock lf
Ted Sizemore 2b
Tim McCarver 1b
Ted Simmons c
Joe Torre 3b
Jose Cruz cf
Bernie Carbo rf
Mike Tyson ss
Reggie Cleveland p


WP: Tom Hall (7-4)
LP: Orlando Peņa (3-2)
HR: STL - Lou Brock (5), Ted Simmons (9).

Big Klu
08-11-2008, 01:21 PM
30 years ago (1978), a 2-0 win at San Diego (Jack Murphy) Stadium.

Cincinnati
Pete Rose 3b
Ken Griffey rf
Dave Concepcion ss
George Foster lf
Johnny Bench 1b
Ken Henderson cf
Vic Correll c
Junior Kennedy 2b
Bill Bonham p

San Diego
Gene Richards lf
Bill Almon ss
Derrel Thomas 3b
Dave Winfield cf
Oscar Gamble rf
Gene Tenace 1b
Rick Sweet c
Fernando Gonzalez 2b
Bob Owchinko p


WP: Doug Bair (5-4)
LP: Bob Owchinko (8-9)
HR: None.

Bill Bonham and Doug Bair combined on a seven-hit shutout for the Reds.

Big Klu
08-11-2008, 01:29 PM
25 years ago (1983), a 4-3 loss at Riverfront Stadium vs. the Dodgers.

Los Angeles
Steve Sax 2b
Rick Monday lf
Ken Landreaux cf
Pedro Guerrero 3b
Greg Brock 1b
Mike A. Marshall rf
Bill Russell ss
Jack Fimple c
Jerry Reuss p

Cincinnati
Eddie Milner cf
Gary Redus lf
Dave Concepcion ss
Cesar Cedeņo rf
Dan Driessen 1b
Nick Esasky 3b
Ron Oester 2b
Dann Bilardello c
Charlie Puleo p


WP: Tom Niedenfuer (6-1)
LP: Charlie Puleo (4-8)
HR: LA - Greg Brock (15).

Tom Niedenfuer pitched four innings of one-hit shutout relief with 7 K's to get the win for the Dodgers. Charlie Puleo, Bill Scherrer, and Ben Hayes combined on a five-hitter in a losing effort for the Reds.

George Anderson
08-11-2008, 01:32 PM
Cincinnati
Pete Rose 3b
Ken Griffey rf
Dave Concepcion ss
George Foster lf
Johnny Bench 1b
Ken Henderson cf
Vic Correll c
Junior Kennedy 2b
Bill Bonham p




Has there ever been a lineup constructed that is so lopsided?? The first five (Rose, Griffey, Concepcion, Foster and Bench) are at the very least All Star's if not HOFer's while the bottom four (Henderson, Correll, Kennedy and Bonham) just are very, very bad.

Big Klu
08-11-2008, 01:35 PM
20 years ago (1988), a 9-8 10-inning win at Riverfront vs. the Dodgers.

Los Angeles
Dave Anderson 2b
Alfredo Griffin ss
Kirk Gibson lf
Pedro Guerrero 1b
Mike A. Marshall rf
John Shelby cf
Tracy Woodson 3b
Mike Scioscia c
Tim Belcher p

Cincinnati
Kal Daniels lf
Chris Sabo 3b
Barry Larkin ss
Eric Davis cf
Paul O'Neill rf
Nick Esasky 1b
Jeff Reed c
Jeff Treadway 2b
Tom Browning p


WP: John Franco (4-5)
LP: Jay Howell (2-3)
HR: LA - Mike A. Marshall (17), Kirk Gibson (22). CIN - Paul O'Neill (13).

Big Klu
08-11-2008, 01:40 PM
Has there ever been a lineup constructed that is so lopsided?? The first five (Rose, Griffey, Concepcion, Foster and Bench) are at the very least All Star's if not HOFer's while the bottom four (Henderson, Correll, Kennedy and Bonham) just are very, very bad.

In 1978, this kind of lineup was not uncommon. Both Bench and Morgan missed significant time, while Geronimo and occasionally Driessen would sit against lefties. (like Bob Owchinko?!) It certainly appears that Sparky is front-loading his lineup to play for the big inning.

Big Klu
08-11-2008, 01:48 PM
15 years ago (1993), a 6-0 loss at Candlestick Park in San Francisco.

Cincinnati
Jacob Brumfield cf
Willie Greene ss
Hal Morris 1b
Kevin Mitchell lf
Chris Sabo 3b
Reggie Sanders rf
Jeff Branson 2b
Brian Dorsett c
Bobby Ayala p

San Francisco
Darren Lewis cf
Robby Thompson 2b
Will Clark 1b
Matt Williams 3b
Willie McGee rf
Todd Benzinger lf
Royce Clayton ss
Kirt Manwaring c
John Burkett p


WP: John Burkett (18-4)
LP: Bobby Ayala (4-5)
HR: None.

John Burkett pitched a four-hit shutout with 8 K's to get the win for the Giants. The only hits for the Reds were a one-out single by Jacob Brumfield in the sixth inning, back-to-back singles by Hal Morris and Kevin Mitchell leading off the seventh, and a one-out single by Morris in the ninth.

Big Klu
08-11-2008, 01:59 PM
10 years ago (1998), a 7-0 loss at Riverfront vs. the Pirates.

Pittsburgh
Tony Womack 2b
Jason Kendall c
Manny Martinez cf
Kevin Young 1b
Jose Guillen rf
Al Martin lf
Freddy Garcia 3b
Lou Collier ss
Francisco Cordova p

Cincinnati
Pat Watkins rf
Barry Larkin ss
Sean Casey 1b
Dmitri Young lf
Eddie Taubensee c
Jeffrey Hammonds cf
Bret Boone 2b
Aaron Boone 3b
Brett Tomko p


WP: Francisco Cordova (10-10)
LP: Brett Tomko (10-8)
HR: PIT - Kevin Young (22), Jason Kendall (8).

Francisco Cordova pitched a six-hit shutout to get the win for the Pirates. Usually I have a good idea about who a lot of players from the past are, but I have no recollection at all of Pirates CF Manny Martinez. Jeffrey Hammonds made his first appearance in a Reds uniform in this game. He had been acquired from the Orioles on August 10 in exchange for 3B/OF Willie Greene.

George Anderson
08-11-2008, 01:59 PM
In 1978, this kind of lineup was not uncommon. Both Bench and Morgan missed significant time, while Geronimo and occasionally Driessen would sit against lefties. (like Bob Owchinko?!) It certainly appears that Sparky is front-loading his lineup to play for the big inning.

Remind me what was it the injury that kept Bench out of so many games that year?? I just remember being a JB fanatic that seeing Werner or Correll back there was just painful.

Big Klu
08-11-2008, 02:04 PM
Remind me what was it the injury that kept Bench out of so many games that year?? I just remember being a JB fanatic that seeing Werner or Correll back there was just painful.

I'm not sure what the injury was. (I was only eight years old at the time.) Maybe somebody else can remember.

Roy Tucker
08-11-2008, 02:11 PM
50 years ago (1958), a 5-4 10-inning loss at Connie Mack Stadium in Philadelphia.

Cincinnati
Eddie Miksis 3b
Bob Thurman lf
Frank Robinson cf
Walt Dropo 1b
Jerry Lynch rf
Ed Bailey c
Alex Grammas 2b
Roy McMillan ss
Bob Purkey p



Manager Jimmie Dykes loses his mind and bats Miksis leadoff. A young Dusty Baker takes note.

In a moment of 1960 wackiness, Cleveland GM Frank Lane trades manager Joe Gordon to the Detroit Tigers for manager Jimmie Dykes.

cumberlandreds
08-11-2008, 02:12 PM
I'm not sure what the injury was. (I was only eight years old at the time.) Maybe somebody else can remember.

I don't remember either. I also didn't remember both he and Morgan misssing so much time. That probably contributed more than anything to the Reds not winning the division that season.

Big Klu
08-11-2008, 02:21 PM
Manager Jimmie Dykes loses his mind and bats Miksis leadoff. A young Dusty Baker takes note.

In a moment of 1960 wackiness, Cleveland GM Frank Lane trades manager Joe Gordon to the Detroit Tigers for manager Jimmie Dykes.

Birdie Tebbetts is still the manager at this point of the season (and for three more games after this). Jimmie Dykes took over on August 14.

Roy Tucker
08-11-2008, 02:28 PM
Birdie Tebbetts is still the manager at this point of the season (and for three more games after this). Jimmie Dykes took over on August 14.

Good spot, Klu. :thumbup:

Batting Miksis leadoff must have been the tipping point for dumping Tebbetts.

westofyou
08-11-2008, 02:39 PM
Remind me what was it the injury that kept Bench out of so many games that year?? I just remember being a JB fanatic that seeing Werner or Correll back there was just painful.

Bench had a bad back all of 1978, hence the need to get him in the lineup standing up now and then to take advantage of his bat, a move that found him in the OF for 2 games and 1b for 11.