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redhawk61
08-12-2008, 01:50 PM
Thought I'd keep it going

.285/.370/.410

RedsManRick
08-12-2008, 01:51 PM
.255/.335/.360

Grande Donkey
08-12-2008, 01:52 PM
.289/.373/.415- 798 OPS in one months work and then called up to Cinci for a cup of coffee as a September call up.

OesterPoster
08-12-2008, 01:55 PM
.270/.345/.355

BuckeyeRedleg
08-12-2008, 01:57 PM
.275/.350/.425

And I agree with the September call-up with the big boys. I see no reason why he and Dickerson shouldn't platoon CF in 2009 as well. If they can each get 300-400 PA's next year, we'll have a greater idea of what to expect moving forward into 2010 and beyond.

texasdave
08-12-2008, 02:01 PM
He seems to be pretty consistent no matter what level he has been at. I'll go with.

.270/.360/.420 .780

I should have just waited for Membengal to post his and then add
one point more onto the old OPS. Classic Price is Right strategy. =)

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 02:03 PM
.275/.370/.400 - .770

nate
08-12-2008, 02:03 PM
I'm gonna play the averages: .270/.370/.430

Prf15
08-12-2008, 02:10 PM
.282/.368/.405 - .773

dougdirt
08-12-2008, 02:34 PM
.280/.365/.425

lollipopcurve
08-12-2008, 02:39 PM
.245/.336/.393

NC Reds
08-12-2008, 04:26 PM
He surprised me in Chattanooga, albeit with a small sample size.

.257/.329/.395

Note that while I am low-balling my expectations, I would be thrilled if Dorn and Stubbs earned a trip to Cincinnati with their performances.

schmidty622
08-12-2008, 04:28 PM
.249/.320/.380

Gross, he's Corey Patterson

crazyredfan40
08-12-2008, 04:52 PM
I am holding out hope that he can pull off an .780-.800 OPS

.272/.350/.430

Doc. Scott
08-12-2008, 05:20 PM
.247/.380/.520

redhawk61
08-12-2008, 05:22 PM
.247/.380/.520
so he all of a sudden turns into a GG Adam Dunn lol

Danny Serafini
08-12-2008, 05:48 PM
.001/.001/.001

I'm doing it like on The Price is Right, so if everyone overbids I win. :)

Kingspoint
08-12-2008, 06:03 PM
What the heck is he doing in Louisville?

Kingspoint
08-12-2008, 06:06 PM
Bad move, Walt.

Stubbs has no business seeing Louisville this season.

Henry should have gotten the call.

Stubbs will fail.

.230/.330/.330

nate
08-12-2008, 06:07 PM
What the heck is he doing in Louisville?

The Bats only had 3 OF on the roster.

Kingspoint
08-12-2008, 06:12 PM
The Bats only had 3 OF on the roster. Thus Sean Henry should have been promoted. And, Rob Mackowiak also plays the outfield. Cumberland is a Centerfielder.

membengal
08-12-2008, 06:22 PM
Wait, Stubbs in Louisville?

Gracious.

membengal
08-12-2008, 06:27 PM
.255/.348/.391 for the rest of this year. .739 OPS in his 2008 L'ville stay.

Premature, in my view, to move him there this season...

nate
08-12-2008, 06:27 PM
Thus Sean Henry should have been promoted. And, Rob Mackowiak also plays the outfield. Cumberland is a Centerfielder.

Mackowiak is one of the three.

Maybe Stubbs got the call because he's older. Maybe Walt wants to how Stubbs fares against a higher level and figures he has time with Henry.

It's not just about who's playing better.

camisadelgolf
08-13-2008, 12:14 AM
.001/.001/.001

I'm doing it like on The Price is Right, so if everyone overbids I win. :)

.002/.002/.002

Blue
08-13-2008, 12:47 AM
.270/.360/.400

AmarilloRed
08-13-2008, 01:40 AM
.260/.350/.400

I did predict he would go from Sarasota to AAA in 2008 last year(I think).

Kingspoint
08-13-2008, 03:09 AM
Mackowiak is one of the three.

Maybe Stubbs got the call because he's older. Maybe Walt wants to how Stubbs fares against a higher level and figures he has time with Henry.

It's not just about who's playing better.

The 1st statement: I was afraid you were going to say that.

The second statement: Really couldn't be any other reason. I'm sure Walt knows the history of players who've succeeded going from High A to AAA with only 100 AB's in-between without having lit it up during those 100 AB's.

The third statement: Who's playing better is only part of it at any time, as you say. But, with legitimate prospects building and keeping their confidence is always something to be aware of. Let a guy lose his confidence and you might have lost yourself a prospect.

This can work in a backwards sort of way. Scenario: Stubbs plays poorly. He's sent back to AA next season to start next season. But, because he only had 3 weeks in AAA and maybe some playoff experience extending it to 4 or more weeks, he looks at it as a small sample and doesn't let his poor effort get him down. He gets back on track where he left off at AA, taking the extra experience that he was given in August/September of 2008 and uses it as a motivator to do what it takes to get himself back up in AAA, but this time to stay.

nate
08-13-2008, 08:06 AM
The second statement: Really couldn't be any other reason. I'm sure Walt knows the history of players who've succeeded going from High A to AAA with only 100 AB's in-between without having lit it up during those 100 AB's.

Is there some sort of history for that? If so, what is it?


The third statement: Who's playing better is only part of it at any time, as you say. But, with legitimate prospects building and keeping their confidence is always something to be aware of. Let a guy lose his confidence and you might have lost yourself a prospect.

This can work in a backwards sort of way. Scenario: Stubbs plays poorly. He's sent back to AA next season to start next season. But, because he only had 3 weeks in AAA and maybe some playoff experience extending it to 4 or more weeks, he looks at it as a small sample and doesn't let his poor effort get him down. He gets back on track where he left off at AA, taking the extra experience that he was given in August/September of 2008 and uses it as a motivator to do what it takes to get himself back up in AAA, but this time to stay.

I think Walt just wants to see how he does at the higher level. Certainly, the mental and maturity issues you point out are part of that.

Kc61
08-13-2008, 08:59 AM
Since Jocketty came on board, prospects have been moved up the chain far more aggressively. This is just one example.

My take is that the Reds will need a bunch of new outfielders and Walt just wants Stubbs to be ready as soon as possible. The big jump seems to be from A ball to AA. If Stubbs can handle AA, as it appears so far he can, then let's see if he can handle AAA.

Centerfield could become a platoon position in Cincinnati in 2009. Perhaps Dickerson and Hairston, for example. Maybe if Hairston has another injury next year, Stubbs is next in line as a platoon centerfielder.

Not a bad philosophy. When a player is having success, and has the overall talent, move him up. Particularly a position player.

princeton
08-13-2008, 09:15 AM
The big jump seems to be from A ball to AA.

not lately, it hasn't. Not for Reds' position players.

Chatt has been a bit easier than Sarasota, if anything. Frazier should be there, IMO.

Yonder Alonso too?

lollipopcurve
08-13-2008, 09:19 AM
Yonder Alonso too?

I'd send Alonso to Hawaii this winter, then start him in Sarasota. If he hits, move him to AA earlyish next year. Like Valaika.

Danny Serafini
08-13-2008, 09:21 AM
.002/.002/.002

Bah, foiled again! Maybe I'll do better at OPS Plinko.

Kc61
08-13-2008, 10:28 AM
not lately, it hasn't. Not for Reds' position players.

Chatt has been a bit easier than Sarasota, if anything. Frazier should be there, IMO.

Yonder Alonso too?

The Reds happen to have a tough High A ballpark and league for hitters. So, many of the hitters have handled AA well. On the pitching side, it's the opposite. Guys like Jordan Smith and Travis Wood haven't made such an easy transition.

But once a player like Stubbs shows he can handle AA, it's not that much of a leap to move him to AAA. He'll face craftier pitchers, for sure, some major league veterans, more breaking pitches. But there's a high talent level at AA as well.

The only issue is whether Stubbs' AA success was a mirage, a produce of small sample size. We will see, but I do like Jocketty's willingness to move position players up aggressively.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-13-2008, 10:43 AM
We will see, but I do like Jocketty's willingness to move position players up aggressively.


As do I. We have been hearing how Jocketty has been sitting on his hands, but I cannot remember a 3-month spand with as much activity on the farm.

He's pushing his non-pitching prospects and it's a thing of beauty.