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Red in Chicago
08-12-2008, 07:06 PM
Cincinnati Reds
1 C. Dickerson LF
2 J. Keppinger SS
3 J. Bruce CF
4 B. Phillips 2B
5 J. Valentine 1B
6 E. Encarnacion 3B
7 C. Patterson CF
8 P. Bako C
9 E. Volquez P

Pittsburgh Pirates
1 N. McLouth CF
2 L. Rivas SS
3 D. Mientkiewicz 1B
4 R. Doumit C
5 A. LaRoche 3B
6 B. Moss LF
7 S. Pearce RF
8 C. Gomez 2B
9 J. Karstens P

Redmachine2003
08-12-2008, 07:55 PM
We Need a Good Right handed Hitter with some pop in left and to find someone to take Patterson

guttle11
08-12-2008, 07:59 PM
Look at those lineups...could get ugly.

NC Reds
08-12-2008, 08:00 PM
After the first inning, I think I will watch the Olympics tonight. That is a poor lineup.

nate
08-12-2008, 08:00 PM
Chat is open!

nate
08-12-2008, 08:02 PM
I know it's anemic with the bats but could this be one of the best defensive Reds outfields ever?

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 08:06 PM
Dickerson walks in his first major league PA!

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:07 PM
Dickerson with a leadoff walk... good start.

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:07 PM
Good at bat by Dickerson...wonder if he'll be off and running?

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:09 PM
Wow....what's this?

Patients at the plate?

lollipopcurve
08-12-2008, 08:09 PM
Laughable that Rosales came up hitting hot and can't get a start on a last place team -- instead, Baker runs Valentin out there 2 of 3 games. Joke.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:10 PM
Keppinger K's... boy, he is struggling...

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:12 PM
Chris Dickerson makin' it happen!

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 08:12 PM
Dickerson steals 2nd and goes to third on a throwing error.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:12 PM
Dickerson steals 2nd and goes to 3rd on the wild throw... Great jump too...

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:12 PM
Bruce hits it about 3 feet and Dickerson has to hold at 3rd... 2 down

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 08:13 PM
Kepp's at bat is a symptom of what has been wrong with the Reds. The guy couldn't throw a strike and Kepp is at 2-0 and starts swinging at balls. Wow.

Bruce hacks away. 2 out with a runner on third.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:14 PM
BP homers! 2-0 Redlegs.... so far so good...

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:14 PM
Great start!

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 08:14 PM
Phillips hits homerun #18. 2-0 Reds.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 08:15 PM
I saw something there. Maybe Brandon will assume a position of leadership. Valentin now hacking away...:)

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:15 PM
Man I love seeing a leadoff hitter with speed working the count, getting on base and making things happen while on the bases.

oneupper
08-12-2008, 08:16 PM
Pirates announcers calling Brandon's trot "unprofessional".

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:16 PM
Javy rips one right at first... 2-0 reds mid 1... we have a lead??

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:16 PM
Pirates announcers calling Brandon's trot "unprofessional".

Of all the trots out there, they pick that one to get on?

Weak.

Patrick Bateman
08-12-2008, 08:17 PM
Man, this Pirates announcer might be the most boring person in the world.

He rails on Phillips' 'unproffessional' homerun trot (there was nothing wrong with it), and showers Karstens with praise for his ability to calmly throw the ball over to first on a routine groundout.

oneupper
08-12-2008, 08:18 PM
Of all the trots out there, they pick that one to get on?

Weak.

They didn't like the bat flip either. They seem to have a bit of "Homer" in them.

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:19 PM
I'd really like to see Edinson get back on track a bit tonight and that's a good start by getting the pop up.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 08:19 PM
It's early but Volquez doesn't seem to have his best velocity.

Ltlabner
08-12-2008, 08:20 PM
what's a "lead" ?

oneupper
08-12-2008, 08:21 PM
what's a "lead" ?

Something that comes when you score "runs". Otherwise, no clue.

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:21 PM
Nice 1-2-3.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:21 PM
1-2-3 for Volquez... 2-0 after 1...

MrCinatit
08-12-2008, 08:23 PM
what's a "lead" ?

It is that stuff inside a pencil that makes it write.
That is the only definition I know. :D

Patrick Bateman
08-12-2008, 08:24 PM
what's a "lead" ?

I just looked it up:

7. transitive and intransitive verb be ahead of others: to be ahead in a race or competition
is leading in the election

I've never heard of this until now. Sounds wild.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:24 PM
single for Edwin...

CTA513
08-12-2008, 08:25 PM
Pirates announcers calling Brandon's trot "unprofessional".

Ive heard the Cardinals announcers say something about it a while back.

NC Reds
08-12-2008, 08:26 PM
Corey's March to Futility continues. I'm thinking sub-.180 is doable if he tries.

Ltlabner
08-12-2008, 08:26 PM
I just looked it up:

7. transitive and intransitive verb be ahead of others: to be ahead in a race or competition
is leading in the election

I've never heard of this until now. Sounds wild.

It's a gas man.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 08:27 PM
Ive heard the Cardinals announcers say something about it a while back.

Wow. This coming from the team who employs Albert Pujols and formerly Jim Edmonds, two of the biggest show boaters in the game.

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:28 PM
Wow. This coming from the team who employs Albert Pujols and formerly Jim Edmonds, two of the biggest show boaters in the game.

Beat me to it...

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:28 PM
Bako flies to left... Patterson was off and running but gets back to first just in time.. 2 down

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:29 PM
Volquez singles to left... wow... 2 on for Dickerson...

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:29 PM
Somewhere Nuxy looks down and says "Ya swing the bat, you're dangerous."

:)

Ltlabner
08-12-2008, 08:31 PM
Somewhere Nuxy looks down and says "Ya swing the bat, you're dangerous."

:)

God I miss that guy.

oneupper
08-12-2008, 08:31 PM
Dickerson is a big boy.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:31 PM
Patterson is terrible... Why in the world is he still on this team???

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:31 PM
New look team, same terrible baserunning....at least it's an old face making the mistakes and not a new one.

CTA513
08-12-2008, 08:31 PM
lol, Patterson picked off / caught stealing.

NC Reds
08-12-2008, 08:31 PM
Sorry, but if you can cut Ross, you can cut Patterson. Ridiculous.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 08:32 PM
Patterson gets picked off second base to end the inning. Wow.

MrCinatit
08-12-2008, 08:32 PM
Cool. Patterson showcasing his incompetence on the base paths as well.

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:33 PM
The only positive of that is it gets Dickerson a clean start in the third...he looked awfully antsy with runners on.

CTA513
08-12-2008, 08:33 PM
I just looked at the Red Sox vs. Rangers game and Ortiz is 2 for 2 with 2 homers and 6 RBIs and its only the 1st inning.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 08:34 PM
Chris Welsh is all over Patterson.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:34 PM
Dickerson is a big boy.

his stature reminds me of Josh Hamilton alot.... both 6'3-6'4 225-230... and they have speed!

penantboundreds
08-12-2008, 08:34 PM
I know we are trying to be real down on Patt (I agree, horrible horrible player), but why did Bako swing at that 1-1 pitch if he saw Patt stealing and with an unreal break. That is not professional hitting.

oneupper
08-12-2008, 08:34 PM
Patterson gets picked off second base to end the inning. Wow.

Patterson is out of practice on this "baserunning" thing. It usually follows the "getting on base" thing.

Kind of like Level 2 in a video game, you have to master Level 1 first.

Patrick Bateman
08-12-2008, 08:35 PM
I have a really big problem with making the 3rd out at 3rd there to end the inning. I'm all for being agrgressive every now and then, and generally speaking, Patterson isn't a bad baserunner, but that's just inexcusable. The amount that can be gained on that play is not worth the risk. Unless Karstens is flat out ignoring you, the runner has to stay at 2nd. Took the bat right out of Dickserson's hands for the chance at a near inconsiquential gain.

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:35 PM
I just looked at the Red Sox vs. Rangers game and Ortiz is 2 for 2 with 2 homers and 6 RBIs and its only the 1st inning.

I just noticed that and started a thread on ORG....wow.

Glad I've got in him my fantasy lineup!

oneupper
08-12-2008, 08:36 PM
I just looked at the Red Sox vs. Rangers game and Ortiz is 2 for 2 with 2 homers and 6 RBIs and its only the 1st inning.

TEN runs in the 1st for Boston. Ouch.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 08:36 PM
Dickerson covers a ton of ground.

PuffyPig
08-12-2008, 08:36 PM
I know we are trying to be real down on Patt (I agree, horrible horrible player), but why did Bako swing at that 1-1 pitch if he saw Patt stealing and with an unreal break. That is not professional hitting.


He likely didn't see him.

You have about zero time to decide to swing. You can't watch the baserunner, know he has the bas stolen, and decide to swing, all at the sam time.

What you can do is see that the runner is going and decide not to swing. But it's unlikley you can decide if he has a great jump.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:37 PM
Dickerson with a long run to haul in the gapper... no way Dunn gets that ball...

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:37 PM
Wow! Defense at all three outfield spots?

Me likey.

CTA513
08-12-2008, 08:37 PM
Dickerson with a long run to haul in the gapper... no way Dunn gets that ball...

Most teams don't have center fielders playing left.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:38 PM
Most teams don't have center fielders playing left.

and most teams didn't have a DH playing left...:thumbup:

CTA513
08-12-2008, 08:38 PM
and most teams also didn't have a DH playing left...:thumbup:

or a DH playing right.

:thumbup:

Buckeye33
08-12-2008, 08:39 PM
Dickerson with a long run to haul in the gapper... no way Dunn gets that ball...

That's at least a double, possibly a triple if Dunn is in left. Dickerson was waiting on it. Now, somehow I don't think Dickerson will hit HRs quite like Dunn.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:39 PM
Volquez is electric! 2 down

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:41 PM
Bako guns down the stolen base attempt.

I know it's early and it's the Pirates, but this is an encouraging start to the new era.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:41 PM
That's at least a double, possibly a triple if Dunn is in left. Dickerson was waiting on it. Now, somehow I don't think Dickerson will hit HRs quite like Dunn.

You are right.... But, I sure will watch and observe like crazy over the next few months to make my judgement on whether or not Dickerson can be an everyday player for us... I really feel like he can as long as we get a Burrell/Milton Bradley type left fielder... That's if Bradley plays like he is this year.... Burrell/Bradley Dickerson Bruce wouldn't be a bad outfield with Edwin, Gonzo/Kepp, BP, and Votto around the horn...

Chip R
08-12-2008, 08:41 PM
I know we are trying to be real down on Patt (I agree, horrible horrible player), but why did Bako swing at that 1-1 pitch if he saw Patt stealing and with an unreal break. That is not professional hitting.


Possibly he wanted to distract the catcher.

Matt700wlw
08-12-2008, 08:42 PM
Wait, the Reds are winning? The Reds have an outfield with defense???? I think I'm feeling lightheaded....

Chip R
08-12-2008, 08:44 PM
I would have liked to see Dickerson lay down a bunt there.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:44 PM
nice play by LaRoche at 3rd... 2 down

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 08:45 PM
Nice play deep behind the bag by Andy LaRoche.

Chip R
08-12-2008, 08:46 PM
That was a nice play.

Ltlabner
08-12-2008, 08:46 PM
Brantley making wild claims that a Reds batter is "patient at the plate"

(Dickerson)

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 08:49 PM
Bako is calling for a lot of curveballs on two strike counts. The curve is Volquez's third best pitch.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:50 PM
Dickerson almost makes the grab, looked like a tough play but should've been caught... goes for a double...

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 08:51 PM
It happens everytime. Praise a guy for his defense and then he drops a ball. It was a tough play but he'll tell ya he should have caught it.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:54 PM
more horrible baserunning.. this time from the other team.

Ltlabner
08-12-2008, 08:55 PM
PNC Park: Where base-runners go to be stupid.

_Sir_Charles_
08-12-2008, 08:56 PM
Wow, where was THAT pitch? Strike 3 called ball 4. Bad call.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 08:57 PM
Wow, where was THAT pitch? Strike 3 called ball 4. Bad call.

It sure looked good enough to be strike three. Hopefully that doesn't come back to haunt.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 08:58 PM
and most teams didn't have a DH playing left...:thumbup:

Wow. The corpse is not cold yet and...

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:58 PM
Volquez gets out of it... end of 3.. 2-0 Reds

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 08:59 PM
Wow. The corpse is not cold yet and...

yeah... I know I shouldn't have. I couldn't help it though. Had to get it out of my system... Kinda like watching a train wreck, you don't wanna look, but you can't help it...

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 09:01 PM
Hack, hack, hack...

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 09:01 PM
That is a good aflac question... I'm going to go with Edwin...

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 09:02 PM
Javy homers to center.. that was a shot! 3-0 Reds...

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 09:02 PM
3-0 on a Javy solo HR.

oneupper
08-12-2008, 09:03 PM
That is a good aflac question... I'm going to go with Edwin...

I say Phillips.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 09:03 PM
I take that back.. Phillips is the home-run leader with 65 homers.. Edwin is at 62...

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 09:05 PM
I say Phillips.

ding ding ding ding.. winner winner chicken dinner!

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 09:08 PM
Tight strikezone tonight...that 2-0 pitch looked awful nice. That changes a whole atbat.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 09:11 PM
Walks haunt

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 09:12 PM
Walks haunt

Especially when you're throwing the ball right down the middle and they're called balls. Questec needs to be installed.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 09:14 PM
While Volquez won't admit he's tired, you can definitely see it. His velocity is only around 92-93 tonight which makes his changeup less effective, and he's leaving the ball up more as a result. Earlier in the year he was 95-97 with a devastating changeup and his pitches were always around the knees.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 09:18 PM
3-1 Reds after four innings.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 09:19 PM
Bako drops down a bunt single to begin the 5th.

Screwball
08-12-2008, 09:29 PM
Volquez consistently behind in the count the last couple innings.

Ltlabner
08-12-2008, 09:30 PM
Started strong and fading?

Screwball
08-12-2008, 09:35 PM
Started strong and fading?

Looks like it, but his numbers overall are still very good.

Bob Borkowski
08-12-2008, 09:39 PM
Reds still lead 3-1 thru 5.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 09:39 PM
Owings is confirmed as one of the players for Dunner... However, he has been supposedly claimed by somebody... So we would not see him this season as the trade can't be completed until after the season...

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 09:40 PM
DENVER - Right-hander Micah Owings is one of the players to be named later in the deal that brought Adam Dunn to the Diamondbacks on Monday.

It's unclear if Owings has yet to be placed on waivers. He will have to clear waivers if he is to be traded before the end of the season.

It's possible that Owings has been placed on waivers already and was claimed by another team, at which point the Diamondbacks would have pulled him back off waivers. That would mean he would not be able to be traded until the conclusion of the regular season.
It's also unclear is Owings' physical condition could be a factor in the deal. He is expected to miss his start Wednesday with shoulder stiffness.

Owings was inconsistent in his 1 seasons in the Diamondbacks rotation. He had a 4.30 ERA in 29 games (27 starts) last season, but was in jeopardy of being bumped from the rotation on several occasions. And after a strong start to this season, Owings has a 7.09 ERA since April 21.

But Owings is known as much, if not more, for his hitting. A former designated hitter in college, he has a career .313 average (35 for 112) with five home runs.

Minor league right-hander Dallas Buck also is part of the trade, but the identity of the third minor leaguer is not yet known.

Screwball
08-12-2008, 09:41 PM
Volquez living danerously, but has only given up 1 run in 5 IP so far. His line:

5 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 0 HR, 2.90 ERA

_Sir_Charles_
08-12-2008, 09:43 PM
His K rate has also fallen off quite a bit as well. But regardless of how much he tails off this season...he's been flat out spectacular this year and I'd make the Hamilton trade again in a heartbeat.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 09:49 PM
Patterson will never sit again. Base hit scores the 4th run.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 09:51 PM
We've only played 5.5 innings, but this team seems different. Am I seeing things?

nate
08-12-2008, 09:53 PM
We've only played 5.5 innings, but this team seems different. Am I seeing things?

Did you turn on after CP got picked off second with two outs?

;)

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 09:56 PM
Did you turn on after CP got picked off second with two outs?

;)

Yep. Never mind.

Screwball
08-12-2008, 09:59 PM
Volquez looked real sharp in the 6th. He got 'em 1-2-3 with 2 Ks in a 13 pitch inning. 98 total on the night.

Given that he's gotten extra rest before this start, I expect to see him back out there in the 7th.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:00 PM
Volquez has his best inning of the night: 1-2-3 with 2 K's. He's at 98 pitches though and due to lead off the 7th. I'd pinch hit for him.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:03 PM
Dickerson doubles for his first major league hit!

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 10:03 PM
Dickerson looking pretty good...

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:06 PM
Why do crappy players like Chris Gomez always rob the Reds? Bruce bloops one to right center and Gomez makes an over the shoulder catch to save a run.

4-1 Reds after 6 1/2.

If Volquez allows a man to reach base then I'd pull him.

Screwball
08-12-2008, 10:06 PM
Kepp grounds out to SS, Dickerson goes to 3rd with 2 out.

Kepp's last 28 days: .191/.214/.266/.480. Yuck.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:08 PM
Kepp grounds out to SS, Dickerson goes to 3rd with 2 out.

Kepp's last 28 days: .191/.214/.266/.480. Yuck.

And yet he bats second.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:08 PM
I'd rather see Janish than Kepp at SS at this point. At least Janish has a stronger arm and more range.

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 10:11 PM
Adam Dunn in his Arizona debut strikes out.

There's a surprise ;)

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 10:11 PM
Dunn K's in his first AB as a D-Back...

KittyDuran
08-12-2008, 10:13 PM
Dunn K's in his first AB as a D-Back...How far in the count did he go?

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 10:13 PM
How far in the count did he go?

3-2

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:13 PM
Volquez retires Pearce but then walks the freaking #8 hitter Chris Gomez. Pull him Dusty. Walks to the #8 hitter always comes back to haunt. Pull him now. He's at 108 pitches.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:16 PM
Michaels K's. Two outs for McLouth. Gotta go to the pen here.

Kc61
08-12-2008, 10:17 PM
Volquez fans Michaels for the second out and Dusty pulls him. Good move to let him face the righty. Now a lefty is coming in for the Reds, I'd guess Bray. Very nice outing for Volquez pitching with two extra days rest.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:18 PM
I would've went with Affeldt here. Bray has struggled a bit lately.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 10:21 PM
He continues to struggle. We got lucky on that ground rule double.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:22 PM
I'm a Bray fan but I don't understand bringing him in over Affeldt. He's struggled lately while Affeldt has been pretty dominant.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 10:23 PM
While Lincoln struggles with control. Why do I get that old familar feeling?

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:23 PM
Looks like the bullpen is going to blow Volquez's 14th win. Bases loaded for Doug M.

The Reds miss Jared Burton. A lot.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 10:24 PM
Pirates hottest hitter at the plate.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 10:24 PM
Valenttin saves the game

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:24 PM
Walking Rivas is embarrassing; he's awful.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 10:24 PM
WOW! JAVY!!!

RedFanAlways1966
08-12-2008, 10:25 PM
Valentin with the defensive play of the game. LOL!

CTA513
08-12-2008, 10:25 PM
Valentin with a nice diving stop to rob Mienkldskajfasdfkasdfz

Kc61
08-12-2008, 10:25 PM
Fine play by Valentin bails Reds out.

So the maligned decision to play Javy tonight against the right hander gets the Reds a home run and a good play.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:27 PM
What an excellent play by Valentin to save Bray and Lincoln.

4-1 Reds after 7.

Falls City Beer
08-12-2008, 10:28 PM
Fine play by Valentin bails Reds out.

So the maligned decision to play Javy tonight against the right hander gets the Reds a home run and a good play.

Gotta throw the bench a bone. Managing 101.

Always Red
08-12-2008, 10:28 PM
Fine play by Valentin bails Reds out.

So the maligned decision to play Javy tonight against the right hander gets the Reds a home run and a good play.

He's made 2 excellent plays at 1B tonight- one to his right and the last to his left. And hit a HR to dead CF.

Baseball is a funny game.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 10:28 PM
Patience--a trait seldom found in a woman and never in Brandon Phillips

oneupper
08-12-2008, 10:28 PM
Kepp's last 28 days: .191/.214/.266/.480. Yuck.

Keppinger All 2007 thru June 2008: .330 BA (412 AB)
Since July: .182 (137 ABs).

It is too strange...I'd be inclined to think something is still physically wrong with him.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:29 PM
Volquez's final line: 6.2 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 5 K...113 pitches.

Great start. He still didn't have great stuff but managed to pitch well.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:32 PM
EdE with a two out walk and scores on a Patterson RBI double! 5-1 Reds.

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 10:32 PM
Extend Corey Patterson before midnight tonight!

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 10:32 PM
Patterson having a career night. doubles in Edwin 5-1.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 10:32 PM
Patterson with a 2 out RBI Double! Something isn't right about tonight... oh yea Patterson has 2 hits... I'm out guys, going to go get a lottery ticket... lol

Falls City Beer
08-12-2008, 10:32 PM
No way Cordero gets the ball if I'm managing. Weathers gets the save opp. Send a message in a meaningless game.

Kc61
08-12-2008, 10:33 PM
Patterson knocks in EE with a double. Strange night.

VR
08-12-2008, 10:33 PM
Meanwhile, Frank Catalonatto kicks the extra point in Boston to tie things up at 14.

Screwball
08-12-2008, 10:33 PM
Volquez's final line: 6.2 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 5 K...113 pitches.

Great start. He still didn't have great stuff but managed to pitch well.

IMO, his stuff and control actually looked better in his last two innings.

And now Patterson hits a double for his second hit tonight. And Valentin's playing like Albert Pujols. In the immortal words of Vince Lombardi, "What the hell's goin' on out here?"

Kc61
08-12-2008, 10:34 PM
No way Cordero gets the ball if I'm managing. Weathers gets the save opp. Send a message in a meaningless game.

Now not a save opportunity. Four run lead. I would use Cordero. He is sharper with a bit more work.

Falls City Beer
08-12-2008, 10:34 PM
Yates is awful, but I'm sure Patterson's saying: "Who the hell cares?"

Falls City Beer
08-12-2008, 10:35 PM
He is sharper with a bit more work.

Not the adjective I'd use to describe Francisco.

Matt700wlw
08-12-2008, 10:36 PM
Don't get any ideas after Corey's first multi-hit game of his career, Dusty...;)

Bob Borkowski
08-12-2008, 10:36 PM
Meanwhile, Frank Catalonatto kicks the extra point in Boston to tie things up at 14.

Texas now leads 15-14...wow.

Falls City Beer
08-12-2008, 10:37 PM
Meanwhile, Frank Catalonatto kicks the extra point in Boston to tie things up at 14.

The AL is a joke. And make no mistake: a game like that only happens in the AL.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 10:40 PM
Grande just said there have been rumors of Micah Owings being one of the other players in the deal... I guess they received the okay...

VR
08-12-2008, 10:44 PM
Weathers has put together a very servicable 2nd half of the year, hopefully they can get something in a trade for him still.

Bob Borkowski
08-12-2008, 10:44 PM
After 8, Reds up 5-1.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 10:44 PM
wow... Rangers come back from 10-0 to take the lead... unreal!

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:45 PM
Rosales pinch hits for Weathers and laces a line drive single to CF. First major league hit.

_Sir_Charles_
08-12-2008, 10:45 PM
Adam Rosales with his first big league hit. Single. Congrats. 2 first hits in tonight game. Rosales & Dickerson. Nice to see.

jesusfan
08-12-2008, 10:46 PM
wow... guess they didn't teach him how to bunt in AAA...

Raisor
08-12-2008, 10:46 PM
Grande just said there have been rumors of Micah Owings being one of the other players in the deal... I guess they received the okay...

I can understand Reds employees having to stay quiet about who's involved, I just can't understand why the papers are going along with it.

Hey Cincy fishwrap! It's your job to find out and tell us.

KronoRed
08-12-2008, 10:47 PM
The AL is a joke.

Amen. Disband them all.

Screwball
08-12-2008, 10:49 PM
Kepp's struggles continue. He grounds into a 5-4-3 DP to end the top of the 9th.

Reds still up 5-1.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:49 PM
wow... guess they didn't teach him how to bunt in AAA...

I believe he's considered to be a solid bunter but he does struggle against lefties.

CTA513
08-12-2008, 10:50 PM
Kepp's struggles continue. He grounds into a 5-4-3 DP to end the top of the 9th.

Reds still up 5-1.

He's now hitting under .260

VR
08-12-2008, 10:50 PM
Griff GIDP, 0-3 tonight.

Kepp has to get some time off and then come back batting 7th. Oof.

redsfan30
08-12-2008, 10:54 PM
Great to see a 1-2-3 from Cordero to close it out. Hopefully he gets his act together soon.

Screwball
08-12-2008, 10:54 PM
Cordero looked good there in the 9th, gettin' 'em 1-2-3.

Reds win 5-1.

Bob Borkowski
08-12-2008, 10:54 PM
Dunn has K'd and walked so far.

Homer next time up? :)

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2008, 10:54 PM
Cordero throws a 1-2-3 9th inning. Reds win 5-1.

The pitching, defense, and offense were all great tonight.

Chris Dickerson was very impressive as he went 1-for-4 with a double, walk, stolen base, and made some nice defensive plays.

Volquez records his 14th win.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 10:57 PM
Cordero throws a 1-2-3 9th inning. Reds win 5-1.

The pitching, defense, and offense were all great tonight.

Chris Dickerson was very impressive as he went 1-for-4 with a double, walk, stolen base, and made some nice defensive plays.

Volquez records his 14th win.I agree. He looked much better than Bruce, Kepp, and others. Maybe the kid found a home.

OTOH, you can expect Patterson to continue to play CF for quite awhile after his performance tonight. that gives me hives to even think of it.

Matt700wlw
08-12-2008, 10:57 PM
What is this winning thing that occured?

Falls City Beer
08-12-2008, 11:00 PM
Cordero 1-2-3?

Juicin'.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 11:01 PM
What is this winning thing that occured?

Just asking here...

Could it be that the whole team was waiting around for Dunn and Griffey to get all the runs?

Nah. What we saw tonight was a pretty good pitching performance by our team and timely hitting. An unusual event to be sure, but we'll take it. Dusty's strange moves by putting Valentin at first, Bako behind the plate, and Patterson in center proved to be winners and Dickerson looked solid.

This may be an abberation. I hope not.

RedFanAlways1966
08-12-2008, 11:07 PM
1st. 1st ML hits for Dickerson & Rosales of course.

Also the 1st...

... REDS win in Pittsburgh since August 30, 2007.
... multi-RBI game for Patterson since June 21.
... time the pitchers allowed less than 2 runs since July 4.
... game they outhit the opponent since July 30.

Spring~Fields
08-12-2008, 11:10 PM
What is this winning thing that occured?


FUN !!

Bob Borkowski
08-12-2008, 11:19 PM
Dunn has K'd and walked so far.

Homer next time up? :)

Nope, but close.

A double.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2008, 11:42 PM
Nope, but close.

A double.

1-2. A .500 average, baby!

Will M
08-12-2008, 11:42 PM
Cordero throws a 1-2-3 9th inning. Reds win 5-1.

The pitching, defense, and offense were all great tonight.

Chris Dickerson was very impressive as he went 1-for-4 with a double, walk, stolen base, and made some nice defensive plays.

Volquez records his 14th win.

The Reds D was quite impressive. When Bruce ran down the pop to RF with two on I said to myself 'no way Jr gets that ball'.
Dickerson has great range.
Javy's play with the bases loaded was great.
Even Volquez made a nice play on the comebacker - throwing to 3B and getting the lead runner.

Screwball
08-12-2008, 11:43 PM
Also the 1st...

... REDS win in Pittsburgh since August 30, 2007.
... multi-RBI game for Patterson since June 21.
... time the pitchers allowed less than 2 runs since July 4.
... game they outhit the opponent since July 30.

Wow. To all of those.

Big Klu
08-13-2008, 02:45 AM
Just finished reading the game thread after getting home from PNC Park. There was something exciting about watching them tonight--something I didn't feel last week (and I attended last Monday and Tuesday vs. the Brewers, and Saturday vs. the Astros). I think I'm going to be upbeat about the post-Dunn era. Of course, I wish him well, and part of me still wishes he was around, but I'm looking forward to seeing how this new club grows. Some observations (and yes, I know it is only Game 1 A.D.):

1) I was pleasantly surprised with Chris Dickerson, both offensively and defensively. He may be more than the fifth OF that I thought he might be. The fly ball in the gap that he got to with ease would never have been caught if Big Adam had been out there. Of course, he won't provide the offense that Dunn did, but he has a nice stroke, patience, and speed.

2) Edinson Volquez settled down and pitched a pretty nice game. The Pirates fans sitting in my section were very impressed with his velocity. He also made a nice play to throw out Chris Gomez at third.

3) I know it is only one game, but Brandon Phillips appeared ready to take the mantle of leadership. I know some of RedsZone shudder at the thought, but that's what it looked like to me.

4) The much-maligned dynamic duo of Corey Patterson and Javier Valentin came up huge tonight. Patterson had a pair of RBI hits (one of them a double), and played his usual solid defense in CF. The only negative was him being picked off/caught stealing, but he got a huge jump on Karstens, and then inexplicibly stopped. He was 2/3 of the way to 3B before Karstens even looked at him. If he had kept going, I think he would have made it. As for Javy, his home run was a bomb--right out the front door. And he made a couple of outstanding defensive plays at 1B--the play he made to end the inning on Doug Mxyzptlk's ball was the defensive play ofthe game, and really sucked the life out of the Pirates and the crowd.

5) I am a big fan of Jeff Keppinger, but he is really struggling at the plate. I think the Reds should sit him for two or three games, and play Jolbert Cabrera at SS. When Kepp gets back in the lineup, bat him seventh (or maybe sixth vs. lefties).

Ltlabner
08-13-2008, 08:44 AM
The Reds win the first game post Dunn and folks are rushing to prolcaim the after Dunn era a success. Sorta like when the manager gets fired and the team goes on a 3 game win streak.

The big problem is the same players have the same level of tallent, one nice game notwithstanding.

Javy did have a nice game. Stick him in there everday and watch him wilt. Patterson will continue to play to the back of his baseball card. etc etc. Dickerson looked good, but lots of rookies have had good starts (not that this even qualifies yet) and cooled off (see Bruce, Jay).

It was great to win. It was nice to have a lead after the first inning. It was good to see some nice performances. How am I kidding, it was awesome to win.

But at the end of the day, we just won 1 whole game against Pittsburg. Get back to me when the Reds rip off 7 in a row and finish the season after a massive winning streak. Then we'll talk about "the success of the post Dunn era".

KittyDuran
08-13-2008, 09:32 AM
IF there is going to be a success or failure following the Dunn trade it will not be felt for years... IMHO.

Also, fear is a great motivator - the remaining players on the team are on edge... again, IMHO.

KittyDuran
08-13-2008, 09:36 AM
The Reds win the first game post Dunn and folks are rushing to prolcaim the after Dunn era a success. Sorta like when the manager gets fired and the team goes on a 3 game win streak.

The big problem is the same players have the same level of tallent, one nice game notwithstanding.

Javy did have a nice game. Stick him in there everday and watch him wilt. Patterson will continue to play to the back of his baseball card. etc etc. Dickerson looked good, but lots of rookies have had good starts (not that this even qualifies yet) and cooled off (see Bruce, Jay).

It was great to win. It was nice to have a lead after the first inning. It was good to see some nice performances. How am I kidding, it was awesome to win.

But at the end of the day, we just won 1 whole game against Pittsburg. Get back to me when the Reds rip off 7 in a row and finish the season after a massive winning streak. Then we'll talk about "the success of the post Dunn era".But it is a WIN... and after seeing them fail miserably for 4 games against Houston last weekend I was pretty pleased. Baby steps...:)

I guess the question is... and maybe this should be addressed on the 2nd Dunn traded thread... but to those that were against the trade, are you hoping that the Reds fail - to justified your anger? (I'm sorry, but I can't, I'm a Reds fan, not a player fan - whomever wears the red wishbone "C" I'll root for):confused:

KittyDuran
08-13-2008, 09:38 AM
The Reds win the first game post Dunn and folks are rushing to prolcaim the after Dunn era a success. Sorta like when the manager gets fired and the team goes on a 3 game win streak.
PLEASE make a separation when talking about "folks" or "fans" and quit lumping everyone together. The above quote sounds like every Reds fan was giddy with excitement... :p:

Ltlabner
08-13-2008, 10:13 AM
But it is a WIN... and after seeing them fail miserably for 4 games against Houston last weekend I was pretty pleased. Baby steps...:)

I guess the question is... and maybe this should be addressed on the 2nd Dunn traded thread... but to those that were against the trade, are you hoping that the Reds fail - to justified your anger? (I'm sorry, but I can't, I'm a Reds fan, not a player fan - whomever wears the red wishbone "C" I'll root for):confused:

I agree, which is why I said it was awesome to see a win for a change. Just seeing a lead in the first inning was refreshing enough for me.

I'd rather they had signed Dunn but there are more ways to win baseball games than just via the Big Donkey. I don't care if they win with nothing but guys who bunt. Walt will rebuild the team and we will win games post Dunn. A love for a team doesn't/shouldn't rest soley on one player.

And if this turns into a dump Jr/Dunn with no other moves Ill be mad but I wol't root against them. Probaby be more apathetic towards the team, but wolnt root against them.

Ltlabner
08-13-2008, 10:16 AM
PLEASE make a separation when talking about "folks" or "fans" and quit lumping everyone together. The above quote sounds like every Reds fan was giddy with excitement... :p:

Sorry, was just a general term. No lumping implied or intended.

And frankly, I was a little giddy with excitment to see them alive on the ball field!

cumberlandreds
08-13-2008, 12:20 PM
I just noticed that and started a thread on ORG....wow.

Glad I've got in him my fantasy lineup!

I had him out of my fantasy lineup. Ughhh.............