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rotnoid
08-13-2008, 01:09 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402882,00.html


Bigfoot may have been found. Maybe. We'll see.

Two Northern California men and two Georgians say they've got a body, a photo and DNA evidence pertaining to the elusive forest-dwelling man-ape and that they'll reveal all at a press conference in Palo Alto, Calif., on Friday.

"I think you'll find that this is the real deal," Robert Barrows of Redwood City, Calif., told the Bay City News local wire service.

Matthew Whitton, a cop in Clayton County, Ga., and his friend Rick Dyer, a former corrections officer, say they recently found the body in the woods of northern Georgia.

Veteran Bigfoot tracker Tom Biscardi said he's examined the body, and that scientists will get their chance soon.



I think we'll all agree it's not crazy to be skeptical.

Let the berating begin...

dougdirt
08-13-2008, 01:16 PM
Stoked. This ought to be interesting.

westofyou
08-13-2008, 01:21 PM
Palo Alto?

Stanford medical Center perhaps?

They found it in Georgia???

Where buying boiled peanuts on the way to lake lanier?

Triples
08-13-2008, 01:22 PM
Yeah and next week someone will catch Nessie on rod and reel while fishing for salmon. I can just hear it now......

dougdirt
08-13-2008, 01:32 PM
Yeah and next week someone will catch Nessie on rod and reel while fishing for salmon. I can just hear it now......

Nessie is my favorite might be non mythical creature ever. Be kind to her.

Johnny Footstool
08-13-2008, 01:32 PM
It's actually the body of D.B. Cooper.

MrCinatit
08-13-2008, 01:35 PM
Their buddy they convinced to dress up in the bear costume is going to be awfully peeved.

durl
08-13-2008, 01:40 PM
I thought Bigfoot lived in the Pacific Northwest. I guess he got tired of all the rain. Or perhaps he was a NASCAR fan...

Roy Tucker
08-13-2008, 01:42 PM
They should display it next to the Montauk Monster.

rotnoid
08-13-2008, 01:45 PM
I think my favorite part of the story is "veteran bigfoot tracker." Really? Come on. I keep thinking of the Greg Warren bit about not having a tracking map, night vision goggles, etc.

justincredible
08-13-2008, 01:45 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/fab1b/123381218547132_small.jpg

Tom Servo
08-13-2008, 01:57 PM
Who murdered bigfoot?

Jeremy Piergallini
08-13-2008, 02:05 PM
That's a dude dressed up as a dude playing another dude.

Seriously looks like a guy in a suit.

Maybe they murdered somebody and are trying to pass it off as Bigfoot so as to avoid prosecution?

Jeremy Piergallini
08-13-2008, 02:06 PM
seeing the username Tom Servo reminds me that MST3K the movie was on one of the HBO's last night.

I LOL'd a couple of times.

redhawk61
08-13-2008, 02:38 PM
have you guys heard about the Chupacabra! police cruiser caught video of it last week. You can watch it on the Yahoo front page.

minus5
08-13-2008, 02:58 PM
have you guys heard about the Chupacabra! police cruiser caught video of it last week. You can watch it on the Yahoo front page.


And here is the link:

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/indexFP.php?rn=3906861&cl=9263621&ch=4226726

MrCinatit
08-13-2008, 03:04 PM
Man. Ron Jeremy is everywhere.

LoganBuck
08-13-2008, 03:05 PM
As an admitted MonsterQuest fan, I have always been a bit of a believer, but I want to see the proof. This should be fun.

wolfboy
08-13-2008, 03:09 PM
If they've recently discovered 125,000 gorillas, then anything is possible right? :D

LoganBuck
08-13-2008, 03:23 PM
Here is a link from the Foxnews.com story with more pics.

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/ga-gorilla-pic/

improbus
08-13-2008, 09:37 PM
Do you realize how many man hours have been wasted on this stuff (and Adam Dunn threads...)? Think about all of the dumb History Channel Specials hosted by Leonard Nimoy or their shows about giant floods overwhelming Paris. What a waste.

guttle11
08-13-2008, 09:56 PM
Do you realize how many man hours have been wasted on this stuff (and Adam Dunn threads...)? Think about all of the dumb History Channel Specials hosted by Leonard Nimoy or their shows about giant floods overwhelming Paris. What a waste.


You're a waste! :thumbdown

Rojo
08-14-2008, 12:18 AM
Do you realize how many man hours have been wasted on this stuff (and Adam Dunn threads...)? Think about all of the dumb History Channel Specials hosted by Leonard Nimoy or their shows about giant floods overwhelming Paris. What a waste.

Is it any more of a waste then watching the same Seinfeld you've seen eight times?

Caveat Emperor
08-14-2008, 01:13 AM
Do you realize how many man hours have been wasted on this stuff (and Adam Dunn threads...)? Think about all of the dumb History Channel Specials hosted by Leonard Nimoy or their shows about giant floods overwhelming Paris. What a waste.

Dude -- "In Search Of..." was usually the only thing standing between me and total boredom when I was in college and stopped scheduling classes on Mondays and Fridays.

I learned all sorts of interesting crackpot theories from Mr. Spock on everything from Atlantis to UFOs.

Sean_CaseyRules
08-14-2008, 02:20 AM
screwed up

Sean_CaseyRules
08-14-2008, 02:21 AM
Dude -- "In Search Of..." was usually the only thing standing between me and total boredom when I was in college and stopped scheduling classes on Mondays and Fridays.

I learned all sorts of interesting crackpot theories from Mr. Spock on everything from Atlantis to UFOs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig_2k9aDhpE

Hollcat
08-14-2008, 02:28 AM
I thought Bigfoot lived in the Pacific Northwest. I guess he got tired of all the rain. Or perhaps he was a NASCAR fan...

Maybe HOGZILLA was his pet.

SunDeck
08-14-2008, 06:52 AM
Here is a link from the Foxnews.com story with more pics.

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/ga-gorilla-pic/

My favorite line in the story:


I have been an unpaid cryptozoological consultant...

Translation: "I show up uninvited at every mythical creature sighting I can".

improbus
08-14-2008, 08:08 AM
Dude -- "In Search Of..." was usually the only thing standing between me and total boredom when I was in college and stopped scheduling classes on Mondays and Fridays.

I learned all sorts of interesting crackpot theories from Mr. Spock on everything from Atlantis to UFOs.

It would be fine if there were some kind of channel for it. Like maybe the Crackpot Channel, or Mythological Channel, or even better the Stoner Channel. But as a teacher I'm always looking for good stuff to use in the classroom and half of History Channel's programming is Pseudo-History or Pseudo-Archaeology. It is really frustrating.

RFS62
08-14-2008, 08:25 AM
My favorite line in the story:


I have been an unpaid cryptozoological consultant...


Translation: "I show up uninvited at every mythical creature sighting I can".


That has to look good on the resume.

Redsfaithful
08-14-2008, 10:04 AM
Has anyone seen Robin Williams lately?

registerthis
08-14-2008, 10:49 AM
But as a teacher I'm always looking for good stuff to use in the classroom and half of History Channel's programming is Pseudo-History or Pseudo-Archaeology.

And the other half is WWII-related programming.

"The Hitler Channel"

FIRELEFT
08-14-2008, 11:59 AM
Got this off of "the bigfoot field researchers organization. http://www.bfro.net/
"The Georgia "Bigfoot Body" story is a hoax started by two hoaxers in Georgia. The hoax is now being orchestrated by a veteran bigfoot hoaxer named Carmine Thomas Biscardi."

I so much wanted this to be true.

SunDeck
08-14-2008, 12:16 PM
How long does one have to be in the game before being considered a "veteran bigfoot hoaxer"?

And do they have a hall of fame?

FIRELEFT
08-14-2008, 12:33 PM
How long does one have to be in the game before being considered a "veteran bigfoot hoaxer"?

And do they have a hall of fame?
5 to 10 mins.
God I hope so!!!!!:thumbup:

Caveat Emperor
08-14-2008, 01:13 PM
And the other half is WWII-related programming.

"The Hitler Channel"

Eventually, the History Channel will start World War 3 just to have new material for future documentaries.

Rojo
08-14-2008, 01:41 PM
How long does one have to be in the game before being considered a "veteran bigfoot hoaxer"?

And do they have a hall of fame?

Most wash out at journeyman. A trust fund helps.

SunDeck
08-14-2008, 01:53 PM
Most wash out at journeyman. A trust fund helps.

There are a lot of AAAA hoaxsters out there, I'm sure, guys who are good with the giant footprints and all, but who just can't master the more sophisticated stuff.

Yachtzee
08-14-2008, 01:55 PM
Eventually, the History Channel will start World War 3 just to have new material for future documentaries.

Or they could just delve into other wars beyond WWII and the Civil War, both of which I think they have covered. How about some WWI action or Spanish American War? Europe had a ton of wars too.

registerthis
08-14-2008, 02:11 PM
Eventually, the History Channel will start World War 3 just to have new material for future documentaries.

...and film it all in sepiatone.

Rojo
08-14-2008, 04:11 PM
Eventually, the History Channel will start World War 3 just to have new material for future documentaries.

Have they been spotted in South Ossetia?

OldRightHander
08-14-2008, 05:05 PM
Or they could just delve into other wars beyond WWII and the Civil War, both of which I think they have covered. How about some WWI action or Spanish American War? Europe had a ton of wars too.

History International has a broader scope. Far more diverse programming.

gm
08-14-2008, 05:31 PM
And the other half is WWII-related programming.

"The Hitler Channel"


BTW, does the 2008 Beijing Olympics invoke any parallels with Berlin in '36?

(fake fireworks during the Opening Ceremony, foreign journalists treated like royalty, etc)

improbus
08-14-2008, 06:14 PM
China has a long way to go. But, they have come a long way. They were one of the most isolationist countries in history, so they naturally have fears of foreigners coming in (Boxer Rebellion anyone?). To expect a country to change overnight is crazy.

Sea Ray
08-15-2008, 11:12 AM
What time is this press conference supposed to be?

wolfboy
08-15-2008, 11:34 AM
Most wash out at journeyman. A trust fund helps.

Even more rare than Bigfoot: The scrappy veteran bigfoot hoaxer. There have been reported sightings, but nothing confirmed.

rotnoid
08-15-2008, 01:26 PM
Fox updated the original story. The press conference is scheduled for 3 pm Eastern today.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404321,00.html


Hooray! It's Bigfoot Day!

At 12 noon Friday Pacific Daylight Time, 3 p.m. on the East Coast, renowned Sasquatch seeker Tom Biscardi plans to hold a press conference in Palo Alto, Calif., to divulge photos and DNA samples purportedly pertaining to a dead man-ape found in the Georgia woods.

But even Bigfoot true believers are growing skeptical of Biscardi's claims, especially after seeing the photo of the body, viewable here.

"This body has little to do with Bigfoot and everything to do with a Sasquatch costume that someone developed after watching too many gorilla movies," warns Loren Coleman, who runs the influential Cryptomundo blog devoted to strange and unknown animals. "The teeth that seem to have been placed in the mouth could be my late mother's false teeth."

Matthew Whitton, a Clayton County, Ga., police officer on medical leave after being shot on the job, and Rick Dyer, a former corrections officer, say they shot the seven-foot-seven-inch creature in the forests of northern Georgia in July.

"I've had interactions with Tom Biscardi in the past, and based on that history, I would say that anything he is involved in is suspect," Idaho State anthropologist and Bigfoot investigator Jeffrey Meldrum told Scientific American.

As for the Bigfoot body in the freezer, says Meldrum, "it just looks like a costume with some fake guts thrown on top for effect."

An online Halloween-costume store, TheHorrorDome.com, based in Port Washington, N.Y., sells a full-sized Sasquatch suit that strongly resembles the thawed-out corpse, right down to the height.

"It definitely looks like our costume," owner Jerry Parrino, who's been keeping track of the Bigfoot body story, told FOXNews.com.

Two things stand out about Biscardi's claims: first of all, that he's not going to be presenting a body — and in fact claims to not even know where the body is — and secondly, that the DNA evidence he's promising won't be accompanied by a "chain of custody" that details where it came from and how it got to the lab.

In other words, all he may have is photos — which don't appear to be too convincing.

Team Clark
08-15-2008, 01:41 PM
Here are my questions!!

1) Can any members of Big Foot's family pitch? I mean they have got to have good arm strength!! What a great job of marketing the Reds could do with them.

2) If they could pitch would you ever charge the mound?

3) The body's teeth are awful white. Did someone leave some Crest White strips behind at a camp?

4) How do you come upon a group of Bigfoot's and not get you #$% kicked?

SeeinRed
08-15-2008, 02:25 PM
4) How do you come upon a group of Bigfoot's and not get you #$% kicked?

Two words..... Chuck Norris. You know Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table because the only element he believes in is the element of suprise. Remember, Chuck Norris doesn't sleep, he waits....

MrCinatit
08-15-2008, 02:45 PM
Two words..... Chuck Norris. You know Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table because the only element he believes in is the element of suprise. Remember, Chuck Norris doesn't sleep, he waits....

I disagree. I think they showed it their YouTube videos, then killed the thing in its sleep.

rotnoid
08-15-2008, 03:03 PM
Here are my questions!!

1) Can any members of Big Foot's family pitch? I mean they have got to have good arm strength!! What a great job of marketing the Reds could do with them.

2) If they could pitch would you ever charge the mound?


We've already seen that Wookies can pitch. I'm assuming bigfoots are pretty genetically similar. As for 2, no way no how. He can throw inside all day long.

UKFlounder
08-15-2008, 07:09 PM
Wouldn't the plural form be "Bigfeet?" :p:


Here are my questions!!


4) How do you come upon a group of Bigfoot's and not get you #$% kicked?

MrCinatit
08-15-2008, 07:27 PM
The story (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080815/ap_on_re_us/bigfoot_claim_6) from the big press conference.


PALO ALTO, Calif. - Bigfoot or big fat lie? Whenever someone reports sighting the hairy beast of yore (details always fuzzy) or capturing the hirsute humanoid on film (images always grainy), it scares up a dubious debate of international proportions. Friday was just the latest episode in the Sasquatch show, as unreal as it may be.
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Two men who claim to have stumbled across a Bigfoot corpse in the woods of northern Georgia indignantly stood by their story at a news conference in Palo Alto during which they offered an e-mail from an entomologist as evidence and acknowledged they wouldn't mind making a few bucks from the "find" they have kept stuffed in a freezer for over a month.

"Everyone who has talked down to us is going to eat their words," predicted Matt Whitton, an officer on medical leave from the Clayton County Police Department.

Whitton and Rick Dyer, a former corrections officer, announced the discovery in early July on YouTube videos and their Web site. Although they did not consider themselves devoted Bigfoot trackers before then, they have since started offering weekend search expeditions in Georgia for $499. The specimen they bagged, the men say, was one of several apelike creatures they spotted cavorting in the woods.

As they faced a skeptical audience of several hundred journalists and Bigfoot fans that included one curiosity seeker in a Chewbacca suit, the pair were joined Friday by Tom Biscardi, head of a group called Searching for Bigfoot. Other Bigfoot hunters call Biscardi a huckster looking for media attention.

Biscardi fielded most of the questions. Among them: Why should anyone accept the men's tale when they weren't willing to display their frozen artifact or pinpoint where they allegedly found it? How come bushwhackers aren't constantly tripping over primate remains if there are as many as 7,000 Bigfoots roaming the United States, as Biscardi claimed?

"I understand where you are coming from, but how many real Bigfoot researchers are out there trekking 140,000 miles a year?" Biscardi said.

Biscardi, Whitton and Dyer presented what they called evidence supporting the Bigfoot theory. It was an e-mail from a University of Minnesota entomologist, but all it said was that of the three DNA samples sent to the scientist, one was human, one was likely a possum and the third could not be tested because of technical problems.

At least one other Bigfoot researcher, Idaho State University anthropologist Jeffrey Meldrum, called the trio's claims "not compelling in the least." He told the Scientific American that photographs posted on the Web site "just looks like a costume with some fake guts thrown on top for effect."

Whitton and Dyer have offered three different accounts of how they found the beast's remains.

In early videos, the animal was shot by a former felon, and the men followed it into the woods. In a second version, they found a "family of Bigfoot" in the north Georgia mountains. In the third, the two were hiking and stumbled upon the corpse with open wounds.

In one of their YouTube videos, they are shown speaking with a man they identify as a scientist. Earlier this week, they admitted that the man was Dyer's brother. Dyer said they were simply having fun.

Asked why anyone should believe his claims when he already had shown a flair for tomfoolery, he suggested that skeptics simply are jealous.

"They don't have a choice to believe us. We have a body," Dyer said.

Hap
08-15-2008, 09:05 PM
http://www.mrpoesmorgue.com/swds/acorns/bullcrap.jpg

Degenerate39
08-15-2008, 09:22 PM
Here are my questions!!

1) Can any members of Big Foot's family pitch? I mean they have got to have good arm strength!! What a great job of marketing the Reds could do with them.

2) If they could pitch would you ever charge the mound?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2228/2206166928_1248e302c3.jpg?v=0

The other team lets the wookie win.

OldRightHander
08-15-2008, 11:30 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2228/2206166928_1248e302c3.jpg?v=0

The other team lets the wookie win.

And a lefty to boot. What would it take to sign him?

Raisor
08-15-2008, 11:42 PM
You have to hand it to them. They got reporters, and a wookie, to come to the presser.

CrackerJack
08-16-2008, 02:54 AM
"Possum" DNA, and some human. Foiled again!

MrCinatit
08-16-2008, 04:16 AM
"Possum" DNA, and some human. Foiled again!

Who knew that Big Foot was part human, part possum? Not sure I want to meet the father, or the mother.

Matt700wlw
08-16-2008, 04:26 AM
Even more rare than Bigfoot: The scrappy veteran bigfoot hoaxer. There have been reported sightings, but nothing confirmed.

Ryan Freel with oversized slippers...

BoydsOfSummer
08-16-2008, 11:43 PM
Who knew that Big Foot was part human, part possum? Not sure I want to meet the father, or the mother.

That must have been one heller of a possum!:eek:

CrackerJack
08-17-2008, 01:34 AM
http://www.makeupandmonsters.com/FAKE_Bigfoot_stories.htm

Team Clark
08-18-2008, 08:56 AM
And a lefty to boot. What would it take to sign him?

Nolan Ryan used to grunt when he threw. Imagine how cool Chewbaca would sound unleashing a 118 mph changeup. :D

rotnoid
08-18-2008, 12:41 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26244241/

Here's a link to the story about the DNA. I guess they could claim of course the sample says human since bigfoot is half human after all. And what samples are we comparing it too? Does the government have a DNA profile of a bigfoot that they're not telling us about? ;)

Sea Ray
08-18-2008, 10:14 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26244241/

Here's a link to the story about the DNA. I guess they could claim of course the sample says human since bigfoot is half human after all. And what samples are we comparing it too? Does the government have a DNA profile of a bigfoot that they're not telling us about? ;)


You have to assume a BigFoot has a DNA different from a human, otherwise it'd be a human. If they have a real BigFoot have the Press Conference at the "freezer". Let's see the body for crying out loud.

rotnoid
08-18-2008, 10:24 PM
You have to assume a BigFoot has a DNA different from a human, otherwise it'd be a human. If they have a real BigFoot have the Press Conference at the "freezer". Let's see the body for crying out loud.

I was mostly being facetious, but let's say for a minute the "bigfoot hunter" is right and the sampling was flawed. Chimp DNA and human DNA are around 96% the same. So something that's "half human" would likely have a lot of the same markers. I'm not saying I believe they have a bigfoot by any menas, but the DNA wouldn't necessarily be that different. I know it's a hoax, but the DNA argument only buys them some more time. More than they deserve at this point.

timmario66
08-19-2008, 02:08 PM
Surprise, surprise it's all a lie:

http://www.cbs46.com/news/17232407/detail.html#-

Hap
08-20-2008, 02:03 PM
Surprise, surprise it's all a lie:

http://www.cbs46.com/news/17232407/detail.html#-

but they had their fifteen minutes

maybe they will sign a book deal and sell it to stupid people and make some money

Sea Ray
08-20-2008, 02:06 PM
but they had their fifteen minutes

maybe they will sign a book deal and sell it to stupid people and make some money

I'm curious to see if they get prosecuted for fraud before this is all said and done. I'm sure this website wants its money back at the very least. These guys aren't on the run for nothing

Matt700wlw
08-20-2008, 02:17 PM
I agree with Mike McConnell....there's no bigfoot because nobody has found bigfoot poop.


:)

durl
08-20-2008, 02:48 PM
OK...the guys held a press conference BEFORE they thawed the thing out to discover that it's a suit??

Why would a guy give up his job (and any future credibility) over a poorly planned hoax? Oh, wait...because some people don't T-H-I-N-K.

I heard clips from that press conference. One guy was SO adamant that the evidence would shut up the doubters. Funny.

Raisor
08-20-2008, 04:44 PM
The guy is a cop in the next county over from where I live.

I'm so proud.

dougdirt
08-20-2008, 04:56 PM
The guy is a cop in the next county over from where I live.

I'm so proud.

Don't you mean WAS? Didn't he get fired?

Chip R
08-20-2008, 06:22 PM
OK...the guys held a press conference BEFORE they thawed the thing out to discover that it's a suit??

Why would a guy give up his job (and any future credibility) over a poorly planned hoax? Oh, wait...because some people don't T-H-I-N-K.

I heard clips from that press conference. One guy was SO adamant that the evidence would shut up the doubters. Funny.


Nobody would show up if they knew it was a hoax.

klw
08-20-2008, 06:44 PM
And a lefty to boot. What would it take to sign him?


It would cost alot because he is ambidextrous (though his form looks better as a southpaw.) He is also getting high maintenance as he has a little person entourage just like Pedro though his is an ewok.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/94/223176326_269bfdd4c0.jpg?v=0

LoganBuck
08-20-2008, 08:15 PM
It would cost alot because he is ambidextrous (though his form looks better as a southpaw.) He is also getting high maintenance as he has a little person entourage just like Pedro though his is an ewok.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/94/223176326_269bfdd4c0.jpg?v=0

That Ewok looks alot like Ryan Hanigan.