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reds44
08-15-2008, 06:08 PM
Lineup vs. Cardinals

Chris Dickerson lf
Jerry Hairston ss
Jay Bruce rf
Brandon Phillips 2b
Javy Valentin 1b
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Corey Patterson cf
Ryan Hanigan c
Bronson Arroyo p
v. rh Brad Thompson

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 07:33 PM
Lopez is batting 6th and LaRue 7th in the Cardinals line-up.. seems a bit wierd...

Degenerate39
08-15-2008, 07:49 PM
I would've put Keppinger at SS, Hairston in LF, and Dickerson in CF. But Corey Patterson isn't my son in law...

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 07:55 PM
Is anyone watching the "game show" on the Reds Live pregame show? There was a college kid on there just now and they gave him some of the easiest questions possible and he still missed them. The first question was who played second base for the Reds during the Big Red Machine World Series years. The four answers were Barry Larkin, Pokey Reese, Joe Morgan, and I believe the fourth was Tommy Helms. Dude said Tommy Helms but Jim Day corrected him and gave him another chance. Next question was who once hit 52 homeruns in a season for the Reds. The answers were George Foster, Barry Larkin and two others. Another easy question that any Reds fan should know...but not this guy. His answer was Larkin.

Sheesh.

NC Reds
08-15-2008, 07:59 PM
Is Patterson an everyday player now? Sniffing the Mendoza line is sufficient for playing time I guess.

He should have been cut months ago. If you leave a bad player on the roster that Dusty likes, he will play him.

Matt700wlw
08-15-2008, 08:00 PM
'Fan' doesn't always mean 'smart'...ask the Cubs

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:05 PM
The camera flashed into the Reds dugout and there's Bruce and Eric Davis side by side talking. Like Larkin, I'd like to see ED back in the Reds organization.

Red in Chicago
08-15-2008, 08:05 PM
game hasn't even started and george has already referenced "prince" albert:rolleyes:

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:07 PM
Do you guys have Prince Albert in a can? Well you better let him out!

reds44
08-15-2008, 08:10 PM
Thank God Cueto isn't pitching this series.

reds44
08-15-2008, 08:11 PM
lol @ Bruce

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:12 PM
My guess is Ryan Ludwick will never have another season like this in his dreams.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:17 PM
2-0 on an Ankiel 2-run homerun. Probably should have walked him with the right hander on deck.

It must be nice to use HGH and get away with it like Ankiel did.

Matt700wlw
08-15-2008, 08:20 PM
Who's pitching? (You'd think I would know that)

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:20 PM
Dickerson homers!

2-1 game.

First major league homer.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:20 PM
WOW... Dickerson Homers... He's playing some ball!

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:21 PM
Who's pitching? (You'd think I would know that)

Arroyo.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 08:21 PM
It must be nice to use HGH and get away with it like Ankiel did.

What's weird is that clearly the guy didn't need it. He's clean and a top 10 NL hitter.

reds44
08-15-2008, 08:21 PM
Dickerson!

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 08:22 PM
I feel like that's the first Reds' homer in weeks.

Matt700wlw
08-15-2008, 08:22 PM
:jump:

_Sir_Charles_
08-15-2008, 08:22 PM
Wow. 3 doubles, a triple and a home run. Not bad. :O)

redsfan30
08-15-2008, 08:22 PM
I can't wait to see Dickerson slump for the first time just to see how he adjusts and comes out of it.

If he comes out of it well, we may just have an answer for 2009.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:22 PM
What's weird is that clearly the guy didn't need it. He's clean and a top 10 NL hitter.

You don't think HGH had anything to do with Ankiel being where he is today?

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 08:23 PM
You don't think HGH had anything to do with Ankiel being where he is today?

No.

NC Reds
08-15-2008, 08:24 PM
BP shows some of his famous patience there. Congrats to Dickerson.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 08:25 PM
Phillips has been flat-out painful of late.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:25 PM
No.

Oh, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. I don't guess roids helped Bonds go from a 45 homer guy to a 73 homer guy then.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:26 PM
Well... I'm going with OBM, I don't really understand the slap on the wrist MLB gives players for using banned substances... It's not like they lose everything they gained from the "stuff" they had taken, that 15-20 lbs of muscle isn't going anywhere...

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 08:27 PM
Oh, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. I don't guess roids helped Bonds go from a 45 homer guy to a 73 homer guy then.

Pretty clearly Bonds was ON HGH when he hit 73. You don't just stay puffed up like a balloon after you go off the stuff (unless you have some kind of condition).

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 08:27 PM
Well... I'm going with OBM, I don't really understand the slap on the wrist MLB gives players for using banned substances... It's not like they lose everything they gained from the "stuff" they had taken, that 15-20 lbs of muscle isn't going anywhere...

It's not really muscle, it's mass. Fat basically.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:27 PM
Lopez singles to left... Watch him kill us now...

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 08:28 PM
Lopez singles to left... Watch him kill us now...

Don't need Lopez to do that. Arroyo's doing it just fine.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:29 PM
[QUOTE=Falls City Beer;1723493]It's not really muscle, it's mass. Fat basically.[/QUOTE
Well, I took methyl masterdrol (superdrol) for about a month and gained 12 lbs of lean muscle, there are plenty of substances out there that can pack on the punch, especially if you work out while on it... btw, methyl is banned, it wasn't when I took it, but it is now...

GAC
08-15-2008, 08:29 PM
It must be nice to use HGH and get away with it like Ankiel did.

Funny how you always seem to mention that; but you seem to "overlook" our own Jerry Hairston Jr. ;)

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:30 PM
It's not really muscle, it's mass. Fat basically.

Well... I took methyl masterdrol (superdrol) for about a month and gained 12 lbs of lean muscle, there are plenty of substances out there that can pack on the punch, especially if you work out while on it... btw, methyl is banned, it wasn't when I took it, but it is now...

NC Reds
08-15-2008, 08:30 PM
Larue should ride a motorcycle to the plate. Dude looks different now with that 'stache.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:30 PM
Funny how you always seem to mention that; but you seem to "overlook" our own Jerry Hairston Jr. ;)

And that is one of the reasons I'm not a big Hairston fan.

NC Reds
08-15-2008, 08:31 PM
Hairston is an illusion. Now watch this organization reward him with a three year deal.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:31 PM
LaRue walks.. Two reds give-aways get on to lead off the inning..

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:32 PM
Arroyo has been pitching well lately but he's off tonight. Freaking Lopez singles and now he walks LaRue, who is an automatic out these days.

GAC
08-15-2008, 08:32 PM
And that is one of the reasons I'm not a big Hairston fan.


You started a thread earlier in the year praising him and wishing we'd call him up (if I remember correctly)

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:34 PM
Thompson strikes out on the foul bunt...

Red in Chicago
08-15-2008, 08:34 PM
Hairston is an illusion. Now watch this organization reward him with a three year deal.

Absolutely, positively 100% correct on that

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 08:35 PM
More importantly, Hairston's gimpy. He needs to go.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:36 PM
Izturis pops to Edwin.. 2 down

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:36 PM
You started a thread earlier in the year praising him and wishing we'd call him up (if I remember correctly)

Yes I did but that doesn't mean I like him. I mentioned at the time that he wasn't the savior but I preferred him to Hopper.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 08:37 PM
Izturis has one homer all season. How many times will he go deep this weekend?

I'll say twice.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:38 PM
what in the world is Valentin doing trying to cut off a ball from left field when it's a line drive single...

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:38 PM
Valentin asleep at the wheel. Schumaker would have been out if Javy had covered first.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:40 PM
Ludwick K's... Cards 3 Reds 1... mid 2

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:41 PM
Is Votto back tomorrow??

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:41 PM
Hey George, Ludwick isn't a kid. He's 30 years old.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:41 PM
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/more/03/02/steroid.raid/t1_hairston.jpg

Back in his roid days.. looks a bit bigger around the guns...

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:43 PM
Javy keeps hitting... double to right...

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:45 PM
Edwin singles to right.. 1st and 3rd with Patterson up... :(

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:47 PM
Patterson with a big sac to right... almost got outta here... 3-2

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:49 PM
Hanigan hits into an easy 6-4-3... 3-2 cards after 2...

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:53 PM
Pujols laces the double off the bag and into the stands where a fan grabs the ball... idiot!

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:54 PM
Fly to center... Pujols made a baserunning mistake right there by not tagging to third... Am I the only one here???

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 08:54 PM
Pujols laces the double off the bag and into the stands where a fan grabs the ball... idiot!

It was a Cardinals fan. It would've only been a single if not for the Cardinal fan touching it.

MrCinatit
08-15-2008, 08:56 PM
Pujols laces the double off the bag and into the stands where a fan grabs the ball... idiot!

Well, the fan WAS wearing a Pujols jersey, so intelligence was not a factor :D

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:57 PM
I love Dickerson's cannon of an arm... 1st and 3rd for the cards with 1 down... get 1, give up 1... story of tonight I guess...

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:57 PM
Well, the fan WAS wearing a Pujols jersey, so intelligence was not a factor :D

He's still an idiot for being a cardinals fan... ;)

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:57 PM
It was a Cardinals fan. It would've only been a single if not for the Cardinal fan touching it.

I know that... lol

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:58 PM
Arroyo walks Lopez.. .good move.. bases jacked for LaSpew!

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 08:59 PM
That should've been an easy 4-6-3 DP, but Hairston throws the ball about 8 feet and it bounces the rest... good scoop too Javy...Not!

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 09:00 PM
Hairston, like Kepp, is an awful SS. Finding a SS should be the number one priority for Jocketty in the offseason.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 09:00 PM
Arroyo K's Thompson... 4-2 cards mid 3...

Red in Chicago
08-15-2008, 09:00 PM
That should've been an easy 4-6-3 DP, but Hairston throws the ball about 8 feet and it bounces the rest... good scoop too Javy...Not!

hairston has no arm and javy has no stretch...ugly

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 09:01 PM
Hairston, like Kepp, is an awful SS. Finding a SS should be the number one priority for Jocketty in the offseason.

There is a guy in Philly that might be available...

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 09:06 PM
Hairston rips it right at Glaus...nice play... 4-2 Cards mid 3...

CTA513
08-15-2008, 09:07 PM
4-2 Cardinals after 3 innings

Arroyo: 67 pitches
Thompson: 34 pitches

CrackerJack
08-15-2008, 09:08 PM
Hairston..ugh, that was an awful throw to first that would've saved a run. I long to see a good SS play here again.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 09:09 PM
pop to Javy... 1 down

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 09:10 PM
Great play by Phillips going into rightfield... 2 down

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 09:11 PM
Quick 1-2-3 inning for Arroyo... mid 4... 4-2 Cards

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 09:16 PM
Bruce K's...

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 09:17 PM
Bruce is going into another slump. When he's going right he's patient and taking pitches. Right now he's getting too aggressive and swinging at junk like he did on that first 3-2 pitch.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 09:19 PM
Every time I read this thread title, I think of

http://www.merryswankster.com/images/YYY-parrot.jpg

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 09:19 PM
Thompson eats the reds for dinner that inning... 4-2 Cards after 4...

Ltlabner
08-15-2008, 09:19 PM
Bruce is going into another slump. When he's going right he's patient and taking pitches. Right now he's getting too aggressive and swinging at junk like he did on that first 3-2 pitch.

Hummmm...wonder what would ever give him the idea to do that?

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 09:22 PM
Pujols pops to Hairston...

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 09:23 PM
I'm going with...http://images.camdenchat.com/images/admin/dusty_baker5.jpg

Doc. Scott
08-15-2008, 09:31 PM
Patterson Walks!!!!!11!11!one!!!1!!

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 09:33 PM
Patterson Walks!!!!!11!11!one!!!1!!

Zee Oh Em Gee!

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 09:35 PM
Patterson steals 2nd and goes to third on a throwing error. Only one out. Need to get this run in.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 09:35 PM
Hanigan grounds to Glaus who throws home and Patterson slides past the tag. 4-3.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 09:37 PM
LaRue single handedly gave the Reds that run. On a pitch out he made a poor throw into center field and then he failed to tag Patterson. The ball beat him there by a mile but LaRue just forgot to tag him.

Doc. Scott
08-15-2008, 09:37 PM
http://www.edvinis.com/NO%20WAI%20copy.jpg

GAC
08-15-2008, 09:38 PM
Patterson is just brain dead. My god! why would you head home on a ground ball hit to 3rd when that is the bag you're standing on?

Just got lucky there. Geez!

VR
08-15-2008, 09:38 PM
Patterson goes 160 abs w/o a walk, then get his 2nd in two weeks.

Doc. Scott
08-15-2008, 09:38 PM
I'm sorry, I blow at posting images. I won't let it happen again.

Bob Borkowski
08-15-2008, 09:38 PM
LaRue single handedly gave the Reds that run. On a pitch out he made a poor throw into center field and then he failed to tag Patterson. The ball beat him there by a mile but LaRue just forgot to tag him.

Patterson's speed played an important part.

Red in Chicago
08-15-2008, 09:40 PM
Patterson is just brain dead. My god! why would you head home on a ground ball hit to 3rd when that is the bag you're standing on?

Just got lucky there. Geez!

he's done that twice recently, but chris just said that he was suppose to be going on contact...it wasn't up to patterson...

Bob Borkowski
08-15-2008, 09:40 PM
4-3 Cards after 5.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 09:41 PM
Lopez triples. The return of the scrubs.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 09:42 PM
Any chance Arroyo *doesn't* give back that run this inning?

Bob Borkowski
08-15-2008, 09:42 PM
Lopez having a good game. Anyone surprised?

oneupper
08-15-2008, 09:42 PM
he's done that twice recently, but chris just said that he was suppose to be going on contact...it wasn't up to patterson...

It's pretty much standard to send a fast guy from third with one out and force a throw. Stuff happens. Tonight stuff happened.

Red in Chicago
08-15-2008, 09:42 PM
shocking that the reds couldn't wait to give up that run...

oneupper
08-15-2008, 09:44 PM
Lopez having a good game. Anyone surprised?

Felipe has put on a few libras.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 09:44 PM
The good news is the Cardinals have an awful bullpen. Of course they'll shut the Reds down...

Red in Chicago
08-15-2008, 09:44 PM
this dude looks like a poodle:p:

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 09:47 PM
Arroyo's starting to become one of my least favorite Reds.

Doc. Scott
08-15-2008, 09:47 PM
I can see the Reds trading the farm for scrappylicious Skip Schumaker.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 09:48 PM
It could be 4-4 if Hairston makes a decent throw...

nate
08-15-2008, 09:48 PM
Arroyo's starting to become one of my least favorite Reds.

No small feat!

;)

Bob Borkowski
08-15-2008, 09:49 PM
Arroyo's starting to become one of my least favorite Reds.

Why?

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 09:49 PM
No small feat!

;)

Like Aaron Boone, the guy just punted half a season. It really seems like his concentration lapses depending on the start.

CrackerJack
08-15-2008, 09:52 PM
Like Aaron Boone, the guy just punted half a season. It really seems like his concentration lapses depending on the start.

yet he's had a pretty good 2nd half - are you referring to the 1st half?

As a SP I think he's a good innings eater who can be fairly consistent, and give you a lot of QS...maybe I'm missing something but don't mind him at all, very good #3-#4 guy. Great #5 on a rich team.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 09:53 PM
yet he's had a pretty good 2nd half - are you referring to the 1st half?

As a SP I think he's a good innings eater who can be fairly consistent, and give you a lot of QS...maybe I'm missing something but don't mind him at all, very good #3-#4 guy. Great #5 on a rich team.

He's had a terrible season. Surrounding a decent month.

Doc. Scott
08-15-2008, 09:54 PM
Why?

'Cuz he's not a Cardinal or ex-Cardinal.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 09:55 PM
'Cuz he's not a Cardinal or ex-Cardinal.

New material. Please.

Doc. Scott
08-15-2008, 09:57 PM
New material. Please.

I've personally never used it before. Arroyo has definitely stunk this year for the most part.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 10:01 PM
Bill Bray is a close second behind Arroyo. No pitcher has ever gotten more messes cleaned up for him; no pitcher has ever allowed more starters' runs to score.

Bob Borkowski
08-15-2008, 10:02 PM
After Pujols doubles, Bray comes in to face Ankiel. He pops out. (2 out)

VR
08-15-2008, 10:03 PM
I've personally never used it before. Arroyo has definitely stunk this year for the most part.

I'm surprised to see his K rate is right up there with EV, Harang and Cueto.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:04 PM
Bill Bray is a close second behind Arroyo. No pitcher has ever gotten more messes cleaned up for him; no pitcher has ever allowed more starters' runs to score.

shew... the reds would have like 5 players if it was up to you... ;)

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 10:04 PM
I'm surprised to see his K rate is right up there with EV, Harang and Cueto.

Goes to show you there's more to pitching than Ks.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:04 PM
Bray says "Take that!"

Bob Borkowski
08-15-2008, 10:05 PM
5-3 Cards, middle of the 7th.

Ltlabner
08-15-2008, 10:05 PM
shew... the reds would have like 5 players if it was up to you... ;)

You'll have to forgive FCB. He's never found a Reds pitcher he could love, or a Cards player he could hate.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:06 PM
For a guy that just turned 25 I think Bray is doing pretty well... Above average for his age at least...

VR
08-15-2008, 10:06 PM
Goes to show you there's more to pitching than Ks.

Boy, no kidding. I have hope though for guys that can get hitters out on their own, hoping they can be taught the finer art of pitching.

If you can't strike guys out.....well, we all lived through those years for the Reds.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:07 PM
I don't understand why my # of posts don't go up...

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:08 PM
Javy grounds to 2nd... 1 down

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 10:09 PM
You'll have to forgive FCB. He's never found a Reds pitcher he could love, or a Cards player he could hate.

I'd love to see a Volquez pitch break Pujols' wrist. But I don't think that'll happen.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:10 PM
Edwin is really frustrating me...

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:11 PM
Patterson stays in to bat against the lefty in a close game during the 7th inning.. Yet another example of why Dusty is an idiot!

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 10:13 PM
You'll have to forgive FCB. He's never found a Reds pitcher he could love, or a Cards player he could hate.

:thumbup: :bowrofl:

Bob Borkowski
08-15-2008, 10:14 PM
I don't understand why my # of posts don't go up...

Have you been posting? ;)

5898 is a really nice number however.

Strikes Out Looking
08-15-2008, 10:14 PM
I don't think game thread posts count to the total post count.

Red in Chicago
08-15-2008, 10:15 PM
I don't understand why my # of posts don't go up...

post counts don't go up in the gamethreads

WVRedsFan
08-15-2008, 10:18 PM
I liked Chris Welsh's comment that the Reds better be looking for offense in the next draft. That's, of course, a little over the top, but the truth remains that all this emphasis on pitching has left the Reds with an emasulated club offensively.

And have you ever seen two guys struggle as much as Jay Bruce and Edwin Encarnacion lately? Wow, they look clueless.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 10:19 PM
I liked Chris Welsh's comment that the Reds better be looking for offense in the next draft. That's, of course, a little over the top, but the truth remains that all this emphasis on pitching has left the Reds with an emasulated club offensively.
.

Why is that over the top? It's dead on.

But what's doubly sad is that the Reds are still really thin on pitching. It just seems endless.

Bob Borkowski
08-15-2008, 10:19 PM
Still 5-3 Redbirds, going to the bottom of the 8th.

Red in Chicago
08-15-2008, 10:20 PM
I liked Chris Welsh's comment that the Reds better be looking for offense in the next draft. That's, of course, a little over the top, but the truth remains that all this emphasis on pitching has left the Reds with an emasulated club offensively.

And have you ever seen two guys struggle as much as Jay Bruce and Edwin Encarnacion lately? Wow, they look clueless.

yeah, bako, patterson, homer, maj all say hi ;)

Strikes Out Looking
08-15-2008, 10:21 PM
I liked Chris Welsh's comment that the Reds better be looking for offense in the next draft. That's, of course, a little over the top, but the truth remains that all this emphasis on pitching has left the Reds with an emasulated club offensively.

And have you ever seen two guys struggle as much as Jay Bruce and Edwin Encarnacion lately? Wow, they look clueless.

At a minimum, a player taken in the '09 draft won't reach the majors until 2011-12, so I think this is fairly silly. The Reds need to draft the best prospects they can, offense or pitchers and go from there.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:24 PM
2 quick outs...

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 10:24 PM
Just what I figured, the crappy Cardinal bullpen comes in and shuts down the Reds offense.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:25 PM
Dickerson doubles again... wow! A machine!

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 10:25 PM
Dickerson doubles again.

4 doubles, 1 triple, 1 homerun, no singles.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:25 PM
Hairston about to homer to tie this puppy up!

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:26 PM
Dickerson is 1 extra base-hit away from tying the MLB record for most extra base-hits to start a career before your first single... what a stat!

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:27 PM
quickly 0-2

Big Klu
08-15-2008, 10:28 PM
Dickerson doubles again.

4 doubles, 1 triple, 1 homerun, no singles.

Singles are for wimps.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:30 PM
5-3 end of 8...

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 10:30 PM
Hairston swings at a pitch at his ankles and grounds out. Inning over.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:31 PM
Bruce, Phillips, Valentin will hit in the 9th..

Strikes Out Looking
08-15-2008, 10:33 PM
Bruce, Phillips, Valentin will hit in the 9th..

Carnak says "Two out three ain't bad."

oneupper
08-15-2008, 10:33 PM
Bruce, Phillips, Valentin will hit in the 9th..

The "meat" of our lineup is rather lean.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:36 PM
Affeldt K's Ludwick..

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 10:39 PM
Keppinger is painfully bad at SS. One step and dive...

Bob Borkowski
08-15-2008, 10:40 PM
The "meat" of our lineup is rather lean.

The Reds have left only 2 men on base tonite. :D

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:41 PM
Pujols swipes second after the ball bounces away... great baserunning...

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:43 PM
Affeldt K's Glaus... Man, when he gets it over the plate he is hard to hit...

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:46 PM
Bruce hits it right at Schumaker... 1 down

Bob Borkowski
08-15-2008, 10:46 PM
Suddenly it is 1999...Ron Villone takes the mound.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:50 PM
BP singles... Here comes Javy...

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 10:52 PM
Awful atbat by Valentin. Swings at a slider that almost hit, takes a hanging slider, and then chases high heat.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 10:53 PM
And now EdE chases a pitch down and away and then takes a belt high fastball for a strike.

Reds/Flyers Fan
08-15-2008, 10:54 PM
Most pathetic offensive display since ... well, a few days ago.

jesusfan
08-15-2008, 10:55 PM
Edwin K's... game over...

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2008, 10:55 PM
Edwin, like Valentin, didn't swing at a strike the whole atbat.

The Cardinals scrubby bullpen shuts the Reds down.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2008, 10:57 PM
Fun team.

WVRedsFan
08-16-2008, 12:02 AM
Why is that over the top? It's dead on.

But what's doubly sad is that the Reds are still really thin on pitching. It just seems endless.

Because anyone drafted wouldn't contribute for 3-4 years.

RedFanAlways1966
08-16-2008, 12:28 AM
Cardinals pitching staff...

All Games except REDS 2008
4.23 ERA, 1.41 WHIP

In 7 Games vs. REDS 2008
2.76 ERA, 1.03 WHIP

The offense. Makes most pitchers better (statistics and mentally). Need confidence boost on the mound? Face the team from Cincinnati.

30 games this year with 5-hits or less. Averaging a 5-hit or less game once every 4 games. Record is 3-27 in those games. Pitching (mostly starters, 5.26 ERA) ain't cutting it, but the hitting is woeful.