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Red in Chicago
08-17-2008, 01:18 PM
someone please post lineup. I'm not home to do it.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 01:40 PM
Reds

Dickerson CF
Hairston LF
Bruce RF
Phillips, B 2B
Valentin 1B
Encarnacion 3B
Keppinger SS
Bako C
Volquez P (14-5) 2.86 era 146 SO


Cards

Schumaker CF
Ludwick RF
Puljols 1B
Ankiel LF
Glaus 3B
Kennedy 2B
Molina C
Loshe P (13-5) 3.92 ERA 88 SO
Izturis SS

membengal
08-17-2008, 01:45 PM
So Votto is back from bereavement, but Valentin continues to play over him at 1b?

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 01:49 PM
Votto back, but not in lineup

By Hal McCoy

Staff Writer

Sunday, August 17, 2008

CINCINNATI — Joey Votto was in uniform Saturday, Aug. 16, returning from bereavement leave, but in no mood to play baseball, to smile or to chat about his ordeal.

Reds manager Dusty Baker understands fully. He had hoped to keep Votto on bereavement for 10 days, "But we had to activate him because the rules say only seven days for bereavement, and that time is up."

Baker did not put Votto in the lineup Saturday night, nor does he plan to start him today, and said, "I was hoping to let him workout Saturday and today and with an off day Monday, he would be ready Tuesday. But the rules say he gets only a week, so he had to be on the roster."

To make room for Votto, the Reds had to return infielder Adam Rosales back to Class AAA Louisville, but not before he got his first major-league hit.

Asked if Votto might pinch hit, Baker said, "I don't know if he'll be emotionally and physically ready. He hasn't hit. But, we'll see."

Javier Valentin, playing most of the time during Votto's absence, started Saturday and will start this afternoon.

membengal
08-17-2008, 01:51 PM
Thanks Matt, good to know.

CTA513
08-17-2008, 02:06 PM
Lohse since the All-Star break: 5.65 ERA, 36.2 Innings, 43 Hits, 23 Runs, 7 HRs, 7 BB, 29 Ks

RFS62
08-17-2008, 02:07 PM
How terribly sad for Votto.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 02:07 PM
Lohse since the All-Star break: 5.65 ERA, 36.2 Innings, 43 Hits, 23 Runs, 7 HRs, 7 BB, 29 Ks

Earth

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 02:11 PM
I have no idea why the LaRussa bat the pitcher 8th thing bothers me so much, but it does...

Tony Cloninger
08-17-2008, 02:13 PM
Then put him on the DL......and let Rosales at least start a few. Is it too much to ask for someone to ask Baker...why he never started 1 game?

Not trying to sound cold to JV at all...but his heart is not in it....why force him to be here?

I think having the reds pre-game show with STL highlights and another lovefest over pujols.....wow...he is good? really? i did not know that....thanks ernie and bert.........is really put me in a foul mood.....that and fracturing my thumb in 6 places during a company softball game. :thumbdown

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 02:18 PM
Nice start for Hamilton's return...;)

1,2,3

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:19 PM
Hamilton?

Btw...How's Edinson's velocity? Gameday's radar isn't working.

RedsManRick
08-17-2008, 02:20 PM
Very nice first inning for Volquez. 8 pitches, 7 strikes, 3 outs, no hits. After last night, this bullpen could really use a breather.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:21 PM
Dickerson with his first MLB single.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:22 PM
Hit and run here?

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 02:24 PM
Why's it called a hit and run when the runner goes before the ball is hit?

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:24 PM
LOL. Good point. Kind of like the whole Driveway & Parkway argument. :O)

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 02:26 PM
Lohse will be a free agent....do you consider bringing him back?

Just me throwing more crap out there for the masses to feast upon...

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 02:26 PM
So far, Lohse is looking like the pitcher the Reds got rid of...

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:27 PM
Jerry with a 2 bagger. 2nd & 3rd no outs. GREAT AB by Hairston. Really fought off those 2 strike pitches. Nice.

RedsManRick
08-17-2008, 02:27 PM
Hairston works the count after falling behind and then yanks one off the top of the LF wall. 2nd and 3rd, no outs.

Uggh. "A productive out is what the Reds are looking for here." No, they're looking for a hit or walk. A productive out is merely a consolation prize. Outs are NEVER something to pursue... Somebody needs to tell Grande that. Go get a hit, Jay.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:30 PM
Bruce with a RBI single. Hairston to 3rd. So far, this is looking VERY nice. :O) 1-0 good guys

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 02:31 PM
Hopefully they can turn this into a multi run inning.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:31 PM
Phillips pops out to Puljols.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:35 PM
Valentin hitting .352 as a starter this year (15 starts). Nice stat from Marty.

2-0 Reds. FC...Javy to first, Jay out at 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:35 PM
Edwin with a blooper single. 1st and 3rd, 2 outs. 2-0 Redlegs.

mbgrayson
08-17-2008, 02:36 PM
After 1 inning:

Reds 2, Cards 0.

Volquez 8 pitches, 7 strikes
Lohse 27 pitches, 20 strikes.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 02:37 PM
Keppinger forgot how to hit. He hasn't been the same since his leg injury.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 02:40 PM
Lead off walk to Ankiel. That's a guaranteed run.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:42 PM
Edinson losing the strikezone. 5 pitch walk to Ankiel and 2-0 to glaus

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:43 PM
Edinson starts a 1-6-3 double play. 2-0 Reds heading to the bottom of the 2nd

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 02:44 PM
Lead off walk to Ankiel. That's a guaranteed run.

Nice. Edinson gets Glaus out and a Kennedy double play to end the second.

RedsManRick
08-17-2008, 02:45 PM
Edinson losing the strikezone. 5 pitch walk to Ankiel and 2-0 to glaus

Bako seemed to calm him down well. Came back with a solid pitch. Volquez, like Cueto, seems to get in to grooves where he misses and tries to come back harder. Good job by Bako nipping it in the bud.

And nice play by Volquez getting to that dribbler and turning two.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:47 PM
Bako hammers one....just right at Ludwick. 1 down.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:47 PM
Grounder to 3rd. 2 down

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 02:49 PM
Dickerson K's on ball 4 but still made Lohse throw six pitches.

RedsManRick
08-17-2008, 02:49 PM
Dickerson K's, end of 2.

Dickerson is going to swing and miss his fair share of the time, but it sure is nice to see a leadoff hitter with a sense of the strike zone.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:49 PM
Dickerson strikes out swinging. 2-0 Reds after 2.

mbgrayson
08-17-2008, 02:51 PM
After 2 innings:

Reds 2, Cards 0

Volquez 18 pitches, 11 strikes
Lohse 43 pitches, 29 strikes.

_Sir_Charles_
08-17-2008, 02:55 PM
Volquez starting to get into a groove now. Getting ahead of the hitters and painting the corners low in the zone. 1-2-3 inning. 29 pitches after 3. Haven't seen THAT in a while.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 02:58 PM
Hairston grounds out on the first pitch after Lohse had thrown 43 pitches through two.

Bruce walks on four pitches.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:02 PM
Volquez is throwing a lot of curveballs in two strike counts today.

mbgrayson
08-17-2008, 03:06 PM
After 3 innings:

Reds 2, Cards 0

Volquez 29 pitches, 20 strikes
Lohse 60 pitches, 38 strikes.

Kc61
08-17-2008, 03:07 PM
Dickerson K's, end of 2.

Dickerson is going to swing and miss his fair share of the time, but it sure is nice to see a leadoff hitter with a sense of the strike zone.

In 2007 at AAA Dickerson fanned 131 times and had 52 walks in 354 at bats. Also last year, 2007, he had 31 Ks and 7 BBs in 114 AA at bats.

The year before, 2006, he had 162 Ks and 59 BBs.

This year his minor league numbers were 102 Ks and 54 walks.

From what I've seen, Dickerson is a great athlete with tremendous speed, whose hitting against righties seems to be major league level. I think he can definitely help the Reds as a platoon centerfielder or, if not, a fourth outfielder.

But I think it's premature to annoint him the centerfielder of the future. His "sense of the strike zone" hasn't been great in the minors and the Reds need to watch closely during this extended trial.

RedsManRick
08-17-2008, 03:12 PM
Volquez getting lots of grounders today. Very good to see. The strikeouts are down but he's at 39 pitches after 4 IP. This sort of pitch efficiency has been missing all season.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:12 PM
Dickerson showed an excellent eye in the minors as evidenced by his OBP being 103 points higher than his batting average.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:12 PM
Nobody mention it.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:14 PM
It looks like the Reds offense is falling asleep.

Tony Cloninger
08-17-2008, 03:15 PM
Bako's defense may not be GG and his bat makes Bill Plummer look like J Bench.....but he knows how to coach these pitchers. It is something that will be overlooked beacuse of his hitting and ties to Baker.

mbgrayson
08-17-2008, 03:17 PM
After 4 innings:

Reds 2, Cards 0

Volquez 39 pitches, 25 strikes
Lohse 69 pitches, 46 strikes.

9 pitch inning there for Lohse, his easiest yet.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 03:18 PM
Marty may have just jinxed that one thing that pitchers don't like to talk about....:D

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:24 PM
Ankiel flies out to begin the 5th but after getting ahead 1-2 on Glaus Volquez started throwing his 3rd and 4th best pitches and walked him. Kennedy of all people singles to break up the no no.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:25 PM
Molina flies out for the second out.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 03:26 PM
Volquez gets himself out of it...

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:27 PM
Five shutout innings on 55 pitches for Volquez.

Kc61
08-17-2008, 03:28 PM
Dickerson showed an excellent eye in the minors as evidenced by his OBP being 103 points higher than his batting average.

Or maybe it's because his BA was .260 for his minor league career.

Dickerson also struck out about 30 percent of his at bats and struck out more than twice as much as he walked.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 03:29 PM
Kyle Lohse just did that on purpose....ump now warns everyone.

I want to see a rumble :D

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:29 PM
Lohse is a sissy. Hopefully Volquez puts one in Lohse's ribs next time.

CTA513
08-17-2008, 03:30 PM
One of the Reds hard throwers should plunk Pujols later in the game.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:34 PM
Or maybe it's because his BA was .260 for his minor league career.

Dickerson also struck out about 30 percent of his at bats and struck out more than twice as much as he walked.

Or maybe it was because he walked a lot.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:35 PM
One of the Reds hard throwers should plunk Pujols later in the game.

Nah, Pujols didn't do anything. Kyle Lohse is nothing but a big pansy. IIRC he was disliked in Minnesota for being a crybaby.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 03:35 PM
I think Volquez could take Lohse...

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:38 PM
Hairston draws a two out 12 pitch walk.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:39 PM
Bruce got ahead 3-0, took a couple called strikes and then grounded out. Lohse is at 93 pitches.

mbgrayson
08-17-2008, 03:39 PM
After 5 innings:

Reds 2, Cards 0

Volquez 55 pitches, 34 strikes
Lohse 93 pitches, 63 strikes.

Nice 12 pitch AB there by Hairston to draw the walk.

RedsManRick
08-17-2008, 03:42 PM
Or maybe it's because his BA was .260 for his minor league career.

Dickerson also struck out about 30 percent of his at bats and struck out more than twice as much as he walked.

A low batting average coupled with a high IsoD is evidence that a guy has good plate discipline but problems making contact. You cannot sustain the walk rates Dickerson has sustained with poor plate discipline -- period. Like Dunn, he strikes out because he works deep counts and swings and misses a fair bit.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:44 PM
Izturis K's to begin the 6th.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:46 PM
Singles by Schumaker and Ludwick. First and second with only one out for Pujols. I have a bad feeling about this one.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 03:47 PM
Loaded.

Ankiel.

One out.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:48 PM
Too bad the offense fell asleep because now we're about to be behind.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 03:50 PM
He just made Ankiel look stupid - that changeup is just N-A-S-T-Y

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:50 PM
Ankiel K's. Big out.

Still loaded for Glaus.

Still got a bad feeling.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 03:53 PM
NICE!

Red in Chicago
08-17-2008, 03:53 PM
two HUGE k's by EV:beerme:

LoganBuck
08-17-2008, 03:53 PM
Pure filth!

MrCinatit
08-17-2008, 03:54 PM
I'll take a fist pump in that situation any day.
Great bit of pitching

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:54 PM
Excellent job by Volquez. Two huge K's of Ankiel and Glaus to end the inning.

Volquez threw 25 pitches that inning and is now at 80 pitches through 6.

Get him some runs please.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 03:54 PM
Glad to see Volquez returning to form. Can he win 20??

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 03:57 PM
Glad to see Volquez returning to form. Can he win 20??

Not with this offense.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 03:59 PM
If Volquez can keep the ball in the yard, he can win twenty easily. Even with this offense.

This pitching staff simply HAS to keep the ball out of the cheap seats.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:01 PM
Phillips not helping matters...

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:02 PM
Phillips potentially costs the Reds an important insurance run. Geez. This offense is bad enough but when you give away outs it's a killer.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:02 PM
Sure enough, that should have been an RBI double by Edwin

RedsManRick
08-17-2008, 04:02 PM
And Phillips runs himself in to an out costing the Reds a run... Our baserunning is just pathetic.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 04:02 PM
Phillips is not a classic basestealer. In fact, the Reds haven't had one of those since Deion. So just don't.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:03 PM
And of course EdE follows that pickoff with a double. That pickoff will come back to haunt the Reds.

LoganBuck
08-17-2008, 04:03 PM
Brandon Phillips stinks at the "little things". I hear announcers and commentators talking about him being the face of the "new" Reds. Until he stops the mental constipation he will never assume that mantle.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:03 PM
RBI single by Kepp. 3-0 Reds.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 04:04 PM
Brandon Phillips stinks at the "little things". I hear announcers and commentators talking about him being the face of the "new" Reds. Until he stops the mental constipation he will never assume that mantle.

The things Brandon Phillips stinks at are increasing in number.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 04:04 PM
RBI single by Kepp. 3-0 Reds.

Is that Kepp's first RBI in a couple of months or what?

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:06 PM
Lohse at 116 pitches...

mbgrayson
08-17-2008, 04:07 PM
After 6 innings:

Reds 3, Cards 0

Volquez 80 pitches, 49 strikes
Lohse 115 pitches, 74 strikes.

25 pitch inning there for Volquez, but two nice Ks to work out of a bases loaded jam.

On the Phillips pickoff, it looked to me like a balk. Lohse had his leg raised and moved toward the plate....

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:08 PM
Is that Kepp's first RBI in a couple of months or what?

It sure seems like it.

Red in Chicago
08-17-2008, 04:09 PM
Phillips is not a classic basestealer. In fact, the Reds haven't had one of those since Deion. So just don't.

i don't believe deion's success rate was all that great either.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:10 PM
Eric Davis...now he could steal some bases.

They should hire him as base stealing coach...

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:11 PM
Javy!

mbgrayson
08-17-2008, 04:11 PM
Is that Kepp's first RBI in a couple of months or what?

No. Kepp had 3 RBIs on August 8th against Houston, and 1 RBI on the 14th against Pittsburgh.

WVRedsFan
08-17-2008, 04:12 PM
Well he here in uniform so why not?

Nice play by Javier.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:14 PM
Two outs and nobody on for the pinch hitter.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:14 PM
Lopez...there's another one that never put it all together

Red in Chicago
08-17-2008, 04:15 PM
Lopez...there's another one that never put it all together

looks like he's been putting the meat and potatoes together, though;)

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:15 PM
Come on!! FIGHT!!!


:D

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:17 PM
1-2 count on Lopez and hit him. One strike from a 1-2-3 inning. Hopefully that doesn't come back and bite him.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:19 PM
Seven shutout innings from Volquez on 97 pitches. I'd pull him. Hopefully the offense can score a couple more runs and leave no doubt.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:22 PM
So, Dickerson can hit lefties....

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:23 PM
Dickerson doubles off a lefty to begin the Reds half of the 7th. Need to get him in.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:24 PM
Stupid, stupid, stupid, Dusty has Cabrera bunting and Molina guns Dickerson down at 3rd. Way to cost us a potential big inning Dusty. What an awful manager.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:25 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce coming out of his funk...

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:26 PM
And now Bruce singles. Poor managing/baserunning has cost the Reds at least two runs today.

RedsManRick
08-17-2008, 04:26 PM
Sigh. Another case of a sacrifice costing us a run. Sacrificing is just bad baseball 95% of the time. When it works, it doesn't dramatically improve your chances of scoring. When it fails, it dramatically decreases your chances.

Luckily BP makes it a moot point. WTG BP! Keep killing that low inside pitch from lefties.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:26 PM
:phillips:

:jump:

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:26 PM
Phillips homers!

6-0 Reds.

mbgrayson
08-17-2008, 04:26 PM
After the Bruce single, the stupid bunt costs us a run after the Jay Bruce single.

I want Fay to ask Dusty why bunt there? Also, was it Phillips idea to run or was he going on a sign?

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:26 PM
#20.

CrackerJack
08-17-2008, 04:27 PM
That Brandon Phillips stinks, undisciplined hot dog hack

:)

Degenerate39
08-17-2008, 04:27 PM
20/20 club

Red in Chicago
08-17-2008, 04:27 PM
bp loves him some lefties :eek:

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 04:28 PM
Quick: trade 'em.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:29 PM
With a 6-0 lead and Volquez at 97 pitches there is no way he should go back out for the 8th inning.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 04:29 PM
With a 6-0 lead and Volquez at 97 pitches there is no way he should go back out for the 8th inning.

Want to keep Cordero from blowing it at all costs, though. Weathers for two innings, IMO. Far as I'm concerned preserving leads for Volquez is all that matters for the remainder of the season. Keep him in the Cy Young running.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:32 PM
Want to keep Cordero from blowing it at all costs, though. Weathers for two innings, IMO.

You act as if Cordero is the worst pitcher in baseball. Newsflash: he's a good pitcher. He's got a 3.64 ERA, 9.94 K/9, and .679 OPS against. Plenty of teams would love to have that.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:32 PM
Man the Cardinals bullpen is awful.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 04:33 PM
You act as if Cordero is the worst pitcher in baseball. Newsflash: he's a good pitcher. He's got a 3.64 ERA, 9.94 K/9, and .679 OPS against. Plenty of teams would love to have that.

Cordero is the Reds' pitcher I'd *least* like to have in there with the bases loaded and Pujols at the dish. The guy's got the yips. I don't know how else to explain it.

mbgrayson
08-17-2008, 04:34 PM
After 7 innings:

Reds 6, Cards 0

Volquez 97 pitches, 58 strikes.
Lohse out of the game, with a 6 inning quality start.
Garcia in for the Cards; 14 pitches, 2 outs, and gives up 3 runs. See, when we get into the middle relief corps of opposing teams, we can score. This happened because we got Lohse's pitch count high enough that he only lasted 6.
Franklin in with 2 outs: 10 pitches, 7 strikes.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:37 PM
Volquez goes 7, gives up 3 hits and 0 runs.


Yeah, that'll work :)

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:37 PM
Volquez's day is done. Good move to pull him. He lowered his ERA from 2.86 to 2.73.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 04:40 PM
Nowadays this team is Volquez, then...well, Volquez.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:41 PM
See...even Pujols hustles...:)

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 04:42 PM
See...even Pujols hustles...:)

Good players tend to. I know that probably rubs some the wrong way....

(and before this turns into a Dunn shouting match, Dunn hustled; others, well, others didn't).

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:44 PM
That Cubs series is going to be tough...

Harden, Lily, Big Z vs Cueto, Arroyo, Harang*










*subject to change?

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:44 PM
David Weathers retired the first two and then allows a single, walk, RBI single.

Degenerate39
08-17-2008, 04:45 PM
Weathers always has to make it interesting.

CTA513
08-17-2008, 04:45 PM
That Cubs series is going to be tough...

Harden, Lily, Big Z vs Cueto, Arroyo, Harang*










*subject to change?


I see lots of K's for Reds hitters in that series

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 04:46 PM
Weathers always has to make it interesting.

Iffy Weathers

Red in Chicago
08-17-2008, 04:46 PM
wow, i was just considering going to thursday's game at wrigley, until i saw that harang was facing zambrano...i might be rethinking that one.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:48 PM
Kennedy K's to end the inning.

6-1 after 7 1/2.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 04:48 PM
David Weathers is terrible. He retired the first two and then allows a single, walk, RBI single.

Weathers is pitching well beyond his physical capabilities. If anything, he's been a nice surprise this season.

Guys with about 15 times his stuff (Affeldt) are actually worse pitchers, IMO.

Red in Chicago
08-17-2008, 04:54 PM
cubs just scored 8 runs in the 7th inning against marlins:eek:

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:54 PM
Patterson walks and Dickerson singles again. Dickerson is 3-for-5 with a double.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:54 PM
Votto PH RBI single makes it 7-1.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 04:57 PM
cubs just scored 8 runs in the 7th inning against marlins:eek:

They are a wrecking crew. There's not an NL team with a chance to stop them in the postseason. In fact, it's the Cubs WS to lose.

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 04:58 PM
Bruce K's on ball 4. He's 2-for-4 today with a walk and the times he made outs he worked the count to 3-2.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 05:00 PM
They are a wrecking crew. There's not an NL team with a chance to stop them in the postseason. In fact, it's the Cubs WS to lose.

...And find a way, they probably will...

They are the Cubs, after all.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 05:01 PM
...And find a way, they probably will...

They are the Cubs, after all.

Let's hope.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 05:03 PM
The world as we know it may cease to exist if the Cubs ever win anything

MrCinatit
08-17-2008, 05:04 PM
Lot of strange, funny things can happen in a best of five series.


Let's hope they all happen to the Cubs, at once, in the playoffs.

Red in Chicago
08-17-2008, 05:04 PM
nice hustle by molina

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 05:05 PM
Get the clown car and the circus music: it's Cordero.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 05:05 PM
Someone didn't tell Cordero that you can't pitch your way INTO a save opportunity.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 05:07 PM
So who goes when this one goes to extras?
:)

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 05:07 PM
an Out

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 05:08 PM
Pujols will bat with ducks on the pond.

KronoRed
08-17-2008, 05:09 PM
So who goes when this one goes to extras?
:)

How bout Harang? couldn't have gotten that worked up last night :D

Matt700wlw
08-17-2008, 05:09 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

It is the only option that makes sense

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 05:10 PM
How bout Harang? couldn't have gotten that worked up last night :D

Nah. I was thinking of pitcher who actually retires hitters. ;)

But then this is the Reds.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 05:11 PM
Ankiel's going to tie it.

WVRedsFan
08-17-2008, 05:12 PM
Cordero was the worst big money spent buy Krivsky. What a joke.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 05:13 PM
No, Glaus is going to tie it.

VR
08-17-2008, 05:13 PM
Everyone here expecting the Cards to tie it up, myself included. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what 8 years of Reds baseball has programmed us to expect.

Red in Chicago
08-17-2008, 05:14 PM
piece of cake for coco ;)

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 05:14 PM
The Red Sea parts: Cordero Ks a premier hitter.

I think I hear the eight-headed dragon and the hoochy of Babylon at my door.

WVRedsFan
08-17-2008, 05:14 PM
No one ties it, thank goodness. I'd start smoozing Cordero now to lift that no-trade clause and start shopping him to dang near anyone who will take him.

mbgrayson
08-17-2008, 05:15 PM
EE goes to home on a grounder with a 7-3 lead....playing like it is a one run game, and,with Coco out there, it is like that...

Coco Ks Ankiel...game. 7-3 Reds.

Cordero still does not look good at all...2 ERs in 1 inning.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 05:15 PM
Cordero was the worst big money spent buy Krivsky. What a joke.

Krivsky really should have to spend a night in jail for that acquisition. Like seriously.

WVRedsFan
08-17-2008, 05:16 PM
Krivsky really should have to spend a night in jail for that acquisition. Like seriously.

Didn't he go to NY? The Mets? Same thing. :D:D

OnBaseMachine
08-17-2008, 05:19 PM
Using Cordero in a 7-1 game after he pitched last night was pretty ignorant. Then again it is Dusty Baker.

edabbs44
08-17-2008, 05:21 PM
Using Cordero in a 7-1 game after he pitched last night was pretty ignorant. Then again it is Dusty Baker.

Heavens forbid. Cordero showed him...Dusty might never use him in a game again.

traderumor
08-17-2008, 05:54 PM
Why do fans have to have whipping boys? Baker and Cordero are going to be named as lead culprits in Global Warming before the year's over.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2008, 08:30 PM
Why do fans have to have whipping boys? Baker and Cordero are going to be named as lead culprits in Global Warming before the year's over.

Cordero's earning his black eyes. Dusty's been taking cheap shots before a single pitch was thrown.

Ltlabner
08-17-2008, 08:46 PM
Was at the game today.

Edison pitched very nicely, and it was good to see him not lose his mind after trading brush-backs with Loshe and hitting Lopez.

He also undressed Ankiel and Glaus during that tough spot (forget the inning...bases loaded and only 1 out). Serriously. He made them look silly. They are a couple of very tallented hitters and he just made them look dumb.

I am not pimping for Javy as a long-term solution to anything (except an endorsement deal from Old Country Buffett), but he ran out one infield hit and made a nice diving grab today. The diving grab was a real rocket-shot.

We actually stuck around for the game and paid attention to it. With a lot of these miserable performances we stick around through the scoreboard stumper and then bolt.

traderumor
08-18-2008, 12:42 PM
Cordero's earning his black eyes. Dusty's been taking cheap shots before a single pitch was thrown.But what separates throwing barbs the way of the same folks over and over again on RZ from the guy chanting "Come on, Whiffey, strike out again, you're terrible" at the game, you know, the folks we would come on here and complain about after we went to a game?

Falls City Beer
08-18-2008, 02:03 PM
But what separates throwing barbs the way of the same folks over and over again on RZ from the guy chanting "Come on, Whiffey, strike out again, you're terrible" at the game, you know, the folks we would come on here and complain about after we went to a game?

Personally I have no problem railing on people who struggle.

traderumor
08-18-2008, 04:04 PM
Personally I have no problem railing on people who struggle.Typical Philadelphia response ;)