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RBA
08-17-2008, 07:38 PM
oh brother.


http://www.newsobserver.com/2766/story/1155589.html

:bang:

MrCinatit
08-17-2008, 08:17 PM
Couple things:
* I noticed the AVERAGE yearly take for some professional gamers is higher than my annual salary. That is freaking depressing.
* He is still getting home schooled. Of course, there are some who would argue that getting home schooled can only make an inverted child even more inverted.
* I can only think about the episode of South Park where Stan's dad, Randy attempted to move from a regular guitar to a Guitar Hero guitar - as well as the ensuing competitions.

RedFanAlways1966
08-17-2008, 09:22 PM
the group of 20-somethings sitting at a nearby table, who applaud when Blake finishes playing along to "Through the Fire and Flames," viewed as the game's toughest song.

"It's pretty sick," says Andrew Gambling, 27, who describes himself as a casual player. "He's talented."

Play "Through the Fire and Flames" with a real guitar. Six strings, 24 frets and a pick. Do it, do it well. Then I will say he is talented. SMACK... reality can be hard-hitting.

NorrisHopper30
08-17-2008, 10:16 PM
Play "Through the Fire and Flames" with a real guitar. Six strings, 24 frets and a pick. Do it, do it well. Then I will say he is talented. SMACK... reality can be hard-hitting.

Have you ever played Guitar Hero or seen Through the Fire and Flames on it?

Joseph
08-17-2008, 10:23 PM
Have you ever played Guitar Hero or seen Through the Fire and Flames on it?

I don't doubt the game is hard, but please, for the love of all thats good, don't make the argument this kid has some talent comparable to the guys who wrote and perform that song.

NorrisHopper30
08-17-2008, 10:29 PM
I don't doubt the game is hard, but please, for the love of all thats good, don't make the argument this kid has some talent comparable to the guys who wrote and perform that song.

Obviously he doesn't have the talent to write and make the song, but to play that song on Guitar Hero is nearly impossible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5GpRJItqjw

Ridiculous.

paintmered
08-17-2008, 10:54 PM
I just watched the video for the real song. What's ridiculous is the idea that the Guitar Hero version could even approach the true difficulty of that song.

RFS62
08-17-2008, 11:00 PM
I know a few musicians who hate this game. They think it causes people to not take up the actual instrument and spend hours and hours on this game, which could have been spent actually learning how to play a guitar.

RedsFan75
08-17-2008, 11:24 PM
That comment has been very widely discussed amongst some of the groups I'm a part of...

That being said, I know at least 4 people that picked up instruments because of this game. I'm giving bass lessons to one and start guitar lessons soon with another.

Personally, I can't play it for squat! :D

Razor Shines
08-17-2008, 11:26 PM
:laugh::laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX4VwhN-F5o

kaldaniels
08-18-2008, 12:52 AM
Obviously he doesn't have the talent to write and make the song, but to play that song on Guitar Hero is nearly impossible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5GpRJItqjw

Ridiculous.

I'm a casual "Rock Band" player. That video just blew my mind. Sure it is hip to rag on these "fake" guitar players...but that is talent right there.

From wikipedia...I had to look it up.

The difficulty is due to the complex hammer-ons and pull-offs, and the extremely fast, intricate solos, including one that lasts around two minutes and four seconds.[citation needed] The song contains the fastest stream of notes in the entire series, with two sections of the song reaching an average speed of 26.67 notes per second.[9][unreliable source?] The player must also play samples of keyboard and computerized noises included in the song.[citation needed] There are 3,722 notes in the song.[citation needed]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Through_the_Fire_and_Flames

Johnny Footstool
08-18-2008, 01:05 AM
It is indeed a certain type of talent -- recognizing and memorizing a sequence of 5 colored dots, and possessing the dexterity to push those buttons rapidly.

gm
08-18-2008, 01:51 AM
Here's a Jim Rome segment on Chris Kluwe (the Minnesota Viking's punter) who is a world class "guitar hero"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j92JPaUGWI

St. Paul Pioneer Press (MN) - August 3, 2008

VIKINGS PUNTER CHRIS KLUWE IS GAINING FAME FOR HIS MASTERY OF GUITAR HERO

MANKATO, Minn. -- Chris Kluwe stood there with his lips pursed, focusing, sweat building on his forehead. The crowd watching him chanted, "Kluwe! Kluwe!" as Vikings executives Rob Brzezinski and Rick Spielman watched him perform, their jaws open in amazement. No, Kluwe wasn't punting in a pressure situation. Holding a plastic guitar inside a Mankato restaurant as people cheered, Kluwe was engrossed in his other passion, the video game Guitar Hero on Xbox...

(Deadspin video)

http://deadspin.com/5033309/vikings-punter-chris-kluwe-is-guitar-hero-all+star

CrackerJack
08-18-2008, 10:52 AM
Yeah memorized, dexteritous button mashing is a different world than actually playing or creating music, and doing it well. That sort of "talent" has nothing to do with musicianship obviously.

I also know and/or see a lot of guys who can emulate or who have memorized a guitar solo (talking real guitar playing here) by Page etc..., and can play it to a tee, but can't create a solo or write a song to save their lives, that's any good. Their brains are wired to emulate and replicate, not create! (says Johnny Cochran)

As much as I appreciate the Steve Howe's of the world, I'll take a good singer/songwriter who can play something meaningful and create, but who isn't necessarily a master at guitar playing, any day.

Music's a funny thing, because it's art.

Roy Tucker
08-18-2008, 11:09 AM
At first I thought this was a load of crap and who cares about Guitar Hero and how well they can play.

And then I thought about how I pay good money to go sit in hard plastic seats and watch men in funny clothes hit a white ball with a stick and then go run around in circles and thought I may want to shut up.

GoReds33
08-18-2008, 06:19 PM
I had a kid tell me the other day that he was offered a spot on a pro Halo team. I just laughed at him. It's amazing what this world is coming to.

dougdirt
08-18-2008, 08:14 PM
I had a kid tell me the other day that he was offered a spot on a pro Halo team. I just laughed at him. It's amazing what this world is coming to.

Hey, everyone needs to put food on the table right?

guttle11
08-18-2008, 11:35 PM
I don't see why people are surprised. Any medium with a growing demographic willing to spend money will draw advertisers. Those advertisers will eventually sponsor professional events. There's decent money to be made in gaming, if you're among the best of the best.

It may not last, and the kid probably won't get super rich from it, but if he can cash in while he has the shot, he should go for it. He may pay for his college and/or parlay this gig into a sweet job in the gaming industry.

NorrisHopper30
08-19-2008, 12:19 AM
Anyone read the article in the paper on Sunday or Saturday about the pro-gamer in northern kentucky? Kid gets 6 figures to play Halo. They pay for his hotels and his flights, etc. He signs autographs at the places he goes too and all of it.

It's getting big, it'll be on ESPN in the next 2 years i'm 100% sure of it.

Patrick Bateman
08-19-2008, 12:34 AM
Once the fad of Guitar Hero is over, so will this kid's career. It's just not a practical long term job.

jmcclain19
08-19-2008, 01:40 AM
At first I thought this was a load of crap and who cares about Guitar Hero and how well they can play.

And then I thought about how I pay good money to go sit in hard plastic seats and watch men in funny clothes hit a white ball with a stick and then go run around in circles and thought I may want to shut up.

We were at the bar the other night after softball, and one of my teammates - who is a Cubs fan - was laughing as Spike TV showed coverage of the Comic Con in San Diego and they showed all kinds of people decked out in crazy comic costumes.

I told him that someone who goes to Cubs games sporting a Cubs Jersey, Cubs hat, has a Cubs Tire Cover for his SUV, and hangs a giant Cubs flag in his office (and probably has a matching one at home) doesn't really have room to point fingers and laugh about people's obsessive fan habits.

*BaseClogger*
08-19-2008, 01:55 AM
Once the fad of Guitar Hero is over, so will this kid's career. It's just not a practical long term job.

Yeah, is he good at any other games?

SirFelixCat
08-19-2008, 09:27 AM
I had a kid tell me the other day that he was offered a spot on a pro Halo team. I just laughed at him. It's amazing what this world is coming to.

one of the best poker players around today "Rekrul" is a former professional Starcraft player.

registerthis
08-19-2008, 09:40 AM
I told him that someone who goes to Cubs games sporting a Cubs Jersey, Cubs hat, has a Cubs Tire Cover for his SUV, and hangs a giant Cubs flag in his office (and probably has a matching one at home) doesn't really have room to point fingers and laugh about people's obsessive fan habits.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38664

Chip R
08-19-2008, 09:43 AM
I don't see why people are surprised. Any medium with a growing demographic willing to spend money will draw advertisers. Those advertisers will eventually sponsor professional events. There's decent money to be made in gaming, if you're among the best of the best.

It may not last, and the kid probably won't get super rich from it, but if he can cash in while he has the shot, he should go for it. He may pay for his college and/or parlay this gig into a sweet job in the gaming industry.


Sure. This kid isn't trying to be the next Jeff Beck. He's not a musician, he's a game player and I don't think anyone is claiming any different. Writing and playing songs is an entirely different skill set than Guitar Hero.

TeamCasey
08-19-2008, 09:51 AM
My mom should have let me stay home.

I could have made a living being the all-time Asteroids champion. I was unstoppable.

Roy Tucker
08-19-2008, 10:25 AM
All fast-twitch muscle fiber fastest gun in the west stuff. Believe me, it doesn't last.

Like any other professional athlete, make your money when you're young and make sure you have something to fall back on.

OUReds
08-19-2008, 12:25 PM
Once the fad of Guitar Hero is over, so will this kid's career. It's just not a practical long term job.

I don't think rhythm games are a fad, I think they are establishing a new genre that's here to stay. A highly lucrative new genre at that.

http://kotaku.com/5038634/music-games-driving-the-whole-damn-industry

wolfboy
08-19-2008, 12:49 PM
Once the fad of Guitar Hero is over, so will this kid's career. It's just not a practical long term job.

And he's going to be completely destitute and helpless once he's made his money on Guitar Hero?

NYMoose
08-19-2008, 12:54 PM
My mom should have let me stay home.

I could have made a living being the all-time Asteroids champion. I was unstoppable.

Space Invaders!!

freestyle55
08-19-2008, 02:17 PM
Who actually pays to go and see these guys? Seriously, watching someone else play video games, especially ones that are the same game over and over (like Guitar Hero)...at least when you're watching someone else play sports there is variablility in the game, not just who can press a button the fastest at the right time...

I guess it depends on whether you view athletic talent as more of a skill then memorizing and pushing buttons at the right time...

Caveat Emperor
08-19-2008, 03:20 PM
Who actually pays to go and see these guys?

Lots of people, apparently -- IIRC, there are televised matches of "Starcraft" still being shown on TV over in South Korea.

BoydsOfSummer
08-19-2008, 03:44 PM
My mom should have let me stay home.

I could have made a living being the all-time Asteroids champion. I was unstoppable.

I was thinking the same thing. Wow, did we put together some marathon sessions with that game. Twelve hours later and we'd still have one life left.:cool:

Johnny Footstool
08-19-2008, 04:58 PM
People watch poker. At least Guitar Hero has music.

gm
08-19-2008, 07:34 PM
Space Invaders!!

Galaga

kaldaniels
08-20-2008, 11:23 PM
To those who'd say that this is a fad...I imagine the same was said when karaoke first started. They are not identical concepts, but have their similarities. I don't expect these Guitar Hero type games to completly phase out over the years...maybe they have reached their peak though.

Disclaimer...I play Rock Band myself, and yes I know it is a "fake" way to play instruments, but it sure is fun. Maybe my parties are lame, but at any gathering bust out the Rock Band and you've got your guests entertained.

I don't get the "professional" Guitar Hero player thing though, but thats just me.