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CTA513
08-20-2008, 05:41 PM
I saw this on the bottom of ESPN and the Cardinals site confirms it:



08/20/2008 5:26 PM ET
Lohse handed five-game suspension

ST. LOUIS -- Cardinals pitcher Kyle Lohse was suspended five games Wednesday for throwing a fastball past the head of Cincinnati pitcher Edinson Volquez last weekend.

Lohse appealed the penalty, and can continue to play until a hearing is held.

Major League Baseball disciplinarian Bob Watson also fined Lohse an undisclosed amount.

St. Louis is second in the NL wild card race. The Cardinals played Pittsburgh at home on Wednesday night.

Trouble between Lohse and Volquez started in the fifth inning of the Reds' 7-3 win Sunday at Cincinnati.

Lohse batted in the top half with two runners on base, and Volquez threw up-and-in to the Cardinals pitcher. Volquez led the bottom half and Lohse's first pitch was high-and-tight, leading plate umpire Greg Gibson to warn both teams.

"Same spot," Lohse said after the game. "Wasn't trying to hit him, though."


http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080820&content_id=3339394&vkey=news_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl

Ltlabner
08-20-2008, 05:43 PM
Isn't LaRussa a real stickler about pitchers who throw at batters?

Highlifeman21
08-20-2008, 05:46 PM
Isn't LaRussa a real stickler about pitchers who throw at batters?

According to him, IIRC Harang is a headhunter.

RedsManRick
08-20-2008, 05:46 PM
Good for MLB. That was about as blatant a retaliation as I've seen in some time for an action that was clearly accidental.

I've got no problem with guys throwing inside, even plunking a guy in the thigh or ribs on occasion. But I don't care about the storied hubris of old. Purposefully throwing one near a guy's head is an absolute no-no and borderline criminal.

OnBaseMachine
08-20-2008, 05:58 PM
Good. Kyle Lohse is a punk.

Big Klu
08-20-2008, 06:03 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Lohse had been instructed to throw at Volquez in order to rattle him, because Edinson was shutting the Cards down that day.

GAC
08-20-2008, 08:12 PM
Good. Kyle Lohse is a punk.

But what about the fact that our guy did it first (as reported)?

Lets turn the tables - if Lohse had thrown high and tight to Volquez, and then Volquez "retaliated", then would your position be the same? ;)

How many batters did Cueto hit in last nights game because he was trying to take control of the inside of the zone?

I'm not saying that what Lohse did was appropriate - or that MLB shouldn't have taken action - only some of the hypocrisy I sometimes see.

OnBaseMachine
08-20-2008, 08:15 PM
But what about when our guy did it first (as reported)?

Lets turn the tables - if Lohse had thrown high and tight to Volquez, and then Volquez "retaliated", then would your position be the same? ;)

Volquez's was clearly unintentional. And I'm not just calling him a punk because he threw at Volquez's head, it's pretty much known around baseball that Lohse is a crybaby and a punk. He was hated in Minnesota by Ron Gardenhire and others for his attitude problems. I don't have a problem with plunking hitters in the back or butt, but intentionally throwing at someones head is idiotic.

LoganBuck
08-20-2008, 08:31 PM
How many batters did Cueto hit in last nights game because he was trying to take control of the inside of the zone?



That is different, Cubs players are subhuman.

VR
08-20-2008, 10:58 PM
I like the irony of th ump in StL for this brushback drama being named "Gibson"

Good for EV, I hope he establishes himself as someone who will own the plate, and throw inside whenever he wants. Kind of the 'Anti-Harang' if you will.

Blitz Dorsey
08-20-2008, 11:12 PM
Part of his suspension should also call for him to shave that Va-jay-jay off his chin.

"Million dollar arm, 10-cent brain." Where have I heard that before? I was watching the game and the idea that Volquez was trying to throw at him is about the most ridiculous thing I could ever imagine. Kyle is just a little whining punk and his attitude is a big reason no one wanted to give him a LTC last offseason.

Blitz Dorsey
08-20-2008, 11:15 PM
Reggie Sanders charging the mound when Pedro had a perfect game going thinks Kyle Lohse was foolish for thinking Volquez was throwing at him.