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Red in Chicago
08-22-2008, 06:58 PM
Reds
Dickerson, lf
Keppinger, ss
Phillips, 2b
Votto, 1b
Encarnacion, 3b
Bruce, rf
Patterson, cf
Hanigan, c
Harang, p

Rockies
Barmes 2b
Taveras cf
Holliday lf
Hawpe rf
Atkins 1b
Stewart 3b
Iannetta c
Tulowitzki ss
Hernandez p

nate
08-22-2008, 10:05 PM
Chat is open!

Raisor
08-22-2008, 10:12 PM
BP went yard.

2-0 Reds

Chip R
08-22-2008, 10:31 PM
Harang had a decent 1st inning.

nate
08-22-2008, 10:39 PM
Wow, BP with a slick recovery from a botched play!

Ball tagged up the middle with a runner on first, he knocks it down behind the bag but doesn't catch it. So he basically "snaps" the ball to Kep covering second.

Raisor
08-22-2008, 11:07 PM
Reds up 6-0
top 4th 2 outs

durl
08-22-2008, 11:28 PM
Nobody doing play-by-play tonight? :)

NC Reds
08-22-2008, 11:33 PM
Patterson sucks. That's all I have tonight. :)

durl
08-22-2008, 11:36 PM
What's Patterson's contract status? He only got a 1 year deal, right?

durl
08-22-2008, 11:37 PM
OK...2 on, no one out. Is it time to pull Harang?

NC Reds
08-22-2008, 11:38 PM
Patterson is signed for this year only I believe. Don't tell Dusty though.

CTA513
08-22-2008, 11:38 PM
I was checking out scores on gameday and I clicked on the Braves vs Cardinals game and Lopez is 1 for 5 with 10 runners left on base.

:eek:

OnBaseMachine
08-22-2008, 11:38 PM
Keppinger at SS is embarrassing. Barmes just hit a routine double play up the middle and yet the statue Keppinger couldn't get to it. Unbelievable. I think I've seen little leaguers with more range than Keppinger.

OnBaseMachine
08-22-2008, 11:39 PM
Very small strikezone tonight. That was strike three right there. Harang has been getting squeezed badly tonight.

OnBaseMachine
08-22-2008, 11:40 PM
Jeff Keppinger has single handedly turned this into a potential big inning. With a major league caliber SS there would be two outs and maybe one runner on.

durl
08-22-2008, 11:41 PM
I agree. That shoulda been a strikeout. Instead the bases are loaded and nobody out.

I think it's time to pull Harang. I don't want to see him give up a ton of runs again.

OnBaseMachine
08-22-2008, 11:46 PM
Harang escapes a bases loaded zero out jam by getting Holliday to pop out and Hawpe and Ianetta to strikeout.

durl
08-22-2008, 11:47 PM
And Harang gets a K to get out of the inning. Now THAT'S the Harang we like to see.

I would've pulled the guy. Guess that's why I'm not a manager.

Falls City Beer
08-22-2008, 11:59 PM
Trade him.

OnBaseMachine
08-23-2008, 12:02 AM
Six shutout innings from Harang on 115 pitches. I don't know about you guys but I don't like having Harang throw 115 pitches three starts removed from a forearm injury.

HokieRed
08-23-2008, 12:08 AM
I agree 115 is too high. Good to see Harang have a good outing, though. Think of the pitches that would have been saved if Keppinger could get to anything. They've got to get him off SS by next year.

OnBaseMachine
08-23-2008, 12:08 AM
Votto RBI single makes it 8-0 Reds. Two straight three hit games for Votto.

Kc61
08-23-2008, 12:10 AM
Six shutout innings from Harang on 115 pitches. I don't know about you guys but I don't like having Harang throw 115 pitches three starts removed from a forearm injury.

Maybe it's time to trust Baker and Pole a little bit.

Many of the fans around here wanted Harang "shut down" before this start. Looks like maybe it was the right move to let him pitch. Seems perhaps to be getting back to himself, Mr. Harang.

As for the pitch count, if he's thrown 115 that's about enough I'd say. But it's good to give Harang an opportunity to pitch successfully after such a tough stretch.

OnBaseMachine
08-23-2008, 12:11 AM
Maybe it's time to trust Baker and Pole a little bit.

Many of the fans around here wanted Harang "shut down" before this start. Looks like maybe it was the right move to let him pitch. Seems perhaps to be getting back to himself, Mr. Harang.

As for the pitch count, if he's thrown 115 that's about enough I'd say. But it's good to give Harang an opportunity to pitch successfully after such a tough stretch.

Yeah, maybe we should trust Dusty abilities to handle pitchers after he did such a fine job in Chicago.

nate
08-23-2008, 12:12 AM
I didn't care for the ump's zone very much. Harang could've been out of a couple innings much earlier than he was. Seems like he wasn't getting the inside (to RH) strike.

HokieRed
08-23-2008, 12:12 AM
This is a very important outing for Harang and a really good sign for the ballclub. I'd just have liked to see him come in around 100.

durl
08-23-2008, 12:13 AM
Hmm. Patterson didn't come through. Interesting.

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:14 AM
Cincinnati 7th Inning Summary

- J. Keppinger doubled to deep right
- B. Phillips flied out to deep right, J. Keppinger to third
- J. Votto singled to right, J. Keppinger scored
- E. Encarnacion singled to center, J. Votto to second
- J. Bruce grounded into fielder's choice, J. Votto to third, E. Encarnacion out at second
- C. Patterson struck out swinging
- End of Inning (1 Run, 3 Hits, 0 Errors)

nate
08-23-2008, 12:15 AM
Majic man in.

HokieRed
08-23-2008, 12:15 AM
Majewski in, may yet need the closer tonight.

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:15 AM
G. Majewski relieved A. Harang



A. Harang 6.0 6 0 0 3 4 0 5.35


Pitches-strikes - A Harang 115-71

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:19 AM
Hmm. Patterson didn't come through. Interesting.



C. Patterson cf 4 0 0 0 0 2 5 .193



C. Dickerson lf 4 0 1 2 0 2 0 .333
J. Keppinger ss 4 2 3 0 0 0 1 .267
B. Phillips 2b 4 2 2 2 0 0 1 .269
J. Votto 1b 4 1 3 2 0 0 0 .285
E. Encarnacion 3b 4 1 2 0 0 1 1 .249
J. Bruce rf 4 1 1 1 0 0 1 .257
R. Hanigan c 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 .250




L. Hernandez 3.2 8 6 6 0 2 1 15.32
R. Speier 0.2 2 1 1 0 1 0 4.82
G. Rusch 2.2 3 1 1 0 2 0 5.37

corkedbat
08-23-2008, 12:22 AM
G. Majewski relieved A. Harang



A. Harang 6.0 6 0 0 3 4 0 5.35


Pitches-strikes - A Harang 115-71

Well, our opponents are wasting little time raising that .315 Arg. against Majewski. Fisher or or Hwerrera Roenicke desevrve these innings. Pitching this guy who has nof uture accomplshes nothing, The future is now.

I guess the one arguement might be not weakening the Bats for the IL Playoffs.

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:24 AM
Well, our opponents are wasting little tiem raising that .315 Arg. against Majewski. Fisher or or Hwerrera Roenicke desevrve these innings. Pitching this guy who has nof uture accomplshes nothing, The future is now.

I guess the one arguement might be not weakening the Bats for the IL Playoffs.

I would like to see Roenicke or Hererra up also.

Sweet said on WLW tonight that Roenicke still has some control problems, expects him to be with the Reds next year.

Hoosier Red
08-23-2008, 12:25 AM
Yeah, maybe we should trust Dusty abilities to handle pitchers after he did such a fine job in Chicago.

That's weak. For all the supposed issues Dusty had with his pitchers in Chicago, they haven't exactly been pictures of health anywhere else. And he didn't do any harm to Zambrano.

Actually on the whole, his abuse of pitchers(or lack of it) is probably one of the things I've been pleasantly surprised about Dusty this year.

Volquez has had some higher pitch count games, but he's also 24. I've seen quite a few games where Cueto's been pulled at just under 100 pitches.

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:26 AM
Colorado Inning Summary

- G. Majewski relieved A. Harang
- C. Barmes flied out to deep left center
- W. Taveras singled to right center
- W. Taveras stole second
- M. Holliday singled to center, W. Taveras scored
- B. Hawpe struck out swinging
- G. Atkins doubled to deep left, M. Holliday scored
- I. Stewart singled to center, G. Atkins scored
- C. Iannetta grounded out to first
- End of Inning (3 Runs, 4 Hits, 0 Errors)



Top 8th 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
Cincinnati 2 0 0 4 1 0 1 0 8 13 1
Colorado 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 3 10 0

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:33 AM
Cincinnati 8TH Inning Summary

- R. Hanigan grounded out to second
- A. Phillips hit for G. Majewski
- A. Phillips flied out to deep center
- C. Dickerson grounded out to second
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)

nate
08-23-2008, 12:36 AM
Nice effort by Kep there.

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:36 AM
D. Weathers relieved G. Majewski



G. Majewski 1.0 4 3 3 0 1 0 5.13


Pitches-strikes - G Majewski 25-16

RedsManRick
08-23-2008, 12:39 AM
EE shows his range and then launches a throw 10 feet too high.

nate
08-23-2008, 12:39 AM
Good and Bad Edwin, simultaneously.

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:41 AM
Wheels falling off

T. Tulowitzki singled to shortstop
S. Podsednik hit for G. Rusch
S. Podsednik singled to left, T. Tulowitzki to second
C. Barmes singled to third, T. Tulowitzki scored, S. Podsednik to third, C. Barmes to second on third baseman E. Encarnacion's throwing error
W. Taveras grounded out to second, S. Podsednik scored
M. Holliday grounded out to first, C. Barmes to third
B. Hawpe grounded out to second
- End of Inning (2 Runs, 3 Hits, 1 Error)

corkedbat
08-23-2008, 12:43 AM
The way these guys are hitting Majewski & Weathers makes Aaron's outing that much more encouraging.

reds44
08-23-2008, 12:43 AM
Good night for the bullpen.

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:44 AM
Reds 8 Rockies 5 after 8 full

Culprits


G. Majewski 1.0 4 3 3 0 1 0 5.13
D. Weathers 1.0 3 2 2 0 0 0 3.54

Kc61
08-23-2008, 12:46 AM
Yeah, maybe we should trust Dusty abilities to handle pitchers after he did such a fine job in Chicago.

Amazing how Reds fans can't let go of Dusty's use of Wood and Prior. The two pitchers have, they don't seem to blame Dusty.

Someday, maybe, the Reds will actually be contending to win a pennant again. There will be pressure to use the team's best pitchers for long outings to win games.

When a team is lousy, it's easy to say "pull the pitcher, he's thrown his 90 pitches, we don't want him to be overworked." It's much harder when the team is good and trying to win.

Johan Santana was pulled in a few games this year and bullpen blew it. So now, the Mets more often let him go the distance to pin down games. They would like to save the pitcher's arm, but the Mets' primary interest is winning.

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:49 AM
J. Grilli relieved G. Rusch
S. Podsednik in center field

J. Keppinger grounded out to second
B. Phillips grounded out to first

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:51 AM
Due up for Colorado in the bottom of the 9th

G. Atkins 1B 1-4
I. Stewart 3B 3-4
C. Iannetta C 0-2

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:52 AM
Votto walks

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:56 AM
Cincinnati 9th Inning Summary

- J. Grilli relieved G. Rusch
- S. Podsednik in center field
- J. Keppinger grounded out to second
- B. Phillips grounded out to first
- J. Votto walked
- E. Encarnacion struck out swinging
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:57 AM
Cordero in to close it out in the bottom of the ninth.

NC Reds
08-23-2008, 01:01 AM
Bad Coco has re-surfaced.

reds44
08-23-2008, 01:02 AM
REALLY good night for the bullpen.

corkedbat
08-23-2008, 01:04 AM
Sheesh. Drama

NC Reds
08-23-2008, 01:04 AM
Then Good Coco returned...

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 01:14 AM
Bot 9th 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
Cincinnati 2 0 0 4 1 0 1 0 0 8 13 2
Colorado 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 2 0 5 13 0


Scoring Summary
Top 1st: Cincinnati
- B. Phillips homered to deep left, J. Keppinger scored

Top 4th: Cincinnati
- J. Bruce singled to left, J. Votto scored, E. Encarnacion to second

- A. Harang grounded out to pitcher, E. Encarnacion scored, J. Bruce to third, R. Hanigan to second

- C. Dickerson singled to center, R. Hanigan and J. Bruce scored

Top 5th: Cincinnati
- J. Votto doubled to deep center, B. Phillips scored

Top 7th: Cincinnati
- J. Votto singled to right, J. Keppinger scored

Bot 7th: Colorado
- M. Holliday singled to center, W. Taveras scored

- G. Atkins doubled to deep left, M. Holliday scored

- I. Stewart singled to center, G. Atkins scored

Bot 8th: Colorado
- C. Barmes singled to third, T. Tulowitzki scored, S. Podsednik to third, C. Barmes to second on third baseman E. Encarnacion's throwing error

- W. Taveras grounded out to second, S. Podsednik scored



C. Dickerson LF 1-5
J. Keppinger SS 3-5
B. Phillips 2B 2-5
J. Votto 1B 3-4
E. Encarnacion 3B 2-5
J. Bruce RF 1-4
C. Patterson CF 0-4
R. Hanigan C 1-4


Batting Cincinnati
2B - J Votto (22, R Speier); J Keppinger (16, G Rusch).

HR - B Phillips (21, 1st inning off L Hernandez 1 on, 1 Out).

RBI - B Phillips 2 (75), J Bruce (36), A Harang (2), C Dickerson 2 (4), J Votto 2 (57).

2-out RBI - C Dickerson 2.

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - C Patterson 2, J Keppinger 1.

Team LOB - 6.

Base Running
SB - C Dickerson (3, 2nd base off R Speier/C Iannetta), B Phillips (23, 2nd base off R Speier/C Iannetta).

Fielding
E - R Hanigan (1, throw); E Encarnacion (19, throw).

Batting Colorado
2B - I Stewart (14, A Harang); C Barmes (22, A Harang); G Atkins (29, G Majewski).

S - W Taveras.

RBI - M Holliday (75), G Atkins (78), I Stewart (38), W Taveras (24).

2-out RBI - G Atkins, I Stewart.

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - B Hawpe 3, L Hernandez 1, G Atkins 2.

Team LOB - 11.

Base Running
SB - C Barmes (8, 2nd base off A Harang/R Hanigan), W Taveras (60, 2nd base off G Majewski/R Hanigan).

Pitching


A. Harang 6.0 6 0 0 3 4 0 5.35 (W, 4-13)
G. Majewski 1.0 4 3 3 0 1 0 5.13
D. Weathers 1.0 3 2 2 0 0 0 3.54
F. Cordero 1.0 2 0 0 0 1 0 3.77 (S, 25)

L. Hernandez 3.2 8 6 6 0 2 1 15.32 (L, 1-2)
R. Speier 0.2 2 1 1 0 1 0 4.82
G. Rusch 3.2 3 1 1 0 2 0 5.29
J. Grilli 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 0 3.43


Pitches-strikes - A Harang 115-71; G Majewski 25-16; D Weathers 22-16; L Hernandez 58-44; R Speier 17-12; G Rusch 43-30; J Grilli 21-12.

Ground balls-fly balls - A Harang 5-9; G Majewski 1-1; D Weathers 3-0; L Hernandez 7-2; R Speier 0-1; G Rusch 5-4; J Grilli 2-0.

Batters faced - A Harang 27; G Majewski 7; D Weathers 6; L Hernandez 19; R Speier 4; G Rusch 14; J Grilli 4

Time: 3:00.
Attendance: 30,337

OnBaseMachine
08-23-2008, 01:59 AM
I know I shouldn't be, but I am completely stunned that Gary Majewski is still on this team. Why in the world do they continue to keep him around? He needs to be released.

Spring~Fields
08-23-2008, 12:51 PM
I know I shouldn't be, but I am completely stunned that Gary Majewski is still on this team. Why in the world do they continue to keep him around? He needs to be released.

I am sure that Jocketty can find better.

Fogg, Majewski, Patterson, Bako.

Reds world might be a brighter place without them.

oneupper
08-23-2008, 01:06 PM
I know I shouldn't be, but I am completely stunned that Gary Majewski is still on this team. Why in the world do they continue to keep him around? He needs to be released.

You shouldn't be. It's Aug. 23. The season was over for the reds a long time ago. You can expand rosters Sep 1, if you want to take a load of some of your pitchers. The time for releasing guys is long over.

The minor league system has been disrupted enough with all the call ups, trades and injuries. You play out the string...and an 8-0 game is EXACTLY where you use a guy like Maj.

Falls City Beer
08-23-2008, 05:43 PM
You shouldn't be. It's Aug. 23. The season was over for the reds a long time ago. You can expand rosters Sep 1, if you want to take a load of some of your pitchers. The time for releasing guys is long over.

The minor league system has been disrupted enough with all the call ups, trades and injuries. You play out the string...and an 8-0 game is EXACTLY where you use a guy like Maj.

Yep. Why would you subject a kid like Roenicke to multiple-inning outings for no good reason in a season that got flushed months ago?