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dougdirt
08-26-2008, 02:54 PM
According to Redlegnation.com, Yonder will start at 1B tonight for the Sarasota Reds.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 02:56 PM
Nice. I was beginning to think that he wasn't going to get any playing time before the season ended. Alonso/Frazier/Francisco will be a nice 3-4-5. Sarasota has six games remaining so he'll probably only get about 25-30 plate appearances at the most.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 03:01 PM
We can just use this thread for tonight's minor league updates if you would like.

Louisville plays at 7:05 as Adam Pettyjohn takes the mound.

Chattanooga starts at 7:15 with Pedro Viola pitching.

Sarasota plays at 7:00 with Rafael Gonzalez making the start.

Dayton plays at 7:05...the Dragons have a three game lead in the wild card with seven games left.

Billings plays at 9:05 with Lance Janke pitching.

The GCL Reds are off.

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 03:04 PM
We can just use this thread for tonight's minor league updates if you would like.


Done :thumbup:

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 03:09 PM
Done :thumbup:

Big 10-4, partner.

redhawk61
08-26-2008, 03:25 PM
I said this over at your site Doug, but you think they would send Yonder down to Dayton if they make the playoffs, to get some more AB's. A 2-6 of Cozart ss, Soto 3b, Alonso 1b, Waring DH, Mesoraco C, would be tough on an imposing pitcher.

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 03:27 PM
The only thought that I could come up with is that Sarasota is the base of operations and with the seasons about to end, maybe the right people are in Sarasota preparing for fall instructional league and they have Alonso there just to get a better look at him.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 03:34 PM
I predict a homerun and a walk from Yonder tonight.

Sea Ray
08-26-2008, 04:23 PM
So Yonder never played for the GCL Reds, right? Was he just working out with them? That's great to hear he's starting tonight in high A.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 04:25 PM
BTW Louisville won their 85th game of the season last night, which is a new franchise record.

medford
08-26-2008, 04:46 PM
I said this over at your site Doug, but you think they would send Yonder down to Dayton if they make the playoffs, to get some more AB's. A 2-6 of Cozart ss, Soto 3b, Alonso 1b, Waring DH, Mesoraco C, would be tough on an imposing pitcher.

I see this mentioned a lot as a potential question, but does it ever actually happen.

The way I look at it, the major league club probably looks at the minor league playoffs as a reward for the players that have worked hard to get that minor league affiliate there. Somewhere on that Dragons roster (or any minor league roster about to make the playoofs) is a kid that has come to the realization that his major league dreams are drying up. Its time for his life's work, but he's put in this last season, working as hard as he could to help the dragons make the playoffs. Sure he's riden the bench most nights in favor of the younger, more highly rated kid that still has major league dreams, but he's put in his time, hoping to give his team what little boost they could and claim a minor league championship. Then all of a sudden, the playoffs roll around and while he's preparing his rally caps, the manager calls him in and informs him that he's being sent down a level while some up & commer w/ a whole 6 games under his belt is taking his place on the roster.

Honestly, how much benefit is is going to be to Yonder to get an extra 3, 6 or even 15 games (how long do the playoffs go?) at Dayton? I'd prefer to give that kid that worked hard all year his chance to represent, while allowing Yonder to continue to work in Sarasota once their season ends in preperation for fall instructional league or the Hawiian/Arizona Fall Leagues.

Yonder has done nothing to help the Dragons reach the post season this year, I'm guessing many of the kids on that roster would rather be represented in the playoffs by their fellow teammates that they've worked with all year, than somebody brought in specifically for the playoffs (even if it was Cueto/Harang/etc... on a "rehab" start). In the end, does it really matter if the Dragons win the Midwest league title? To the kids on the team, yes, to the Reds? Not really.

medford
08-26-2008, 04:47 PM
But with that said, I'd love to get a chance to see Yonder in Dayton during the playoffs, just to get a look at him. I'm hoping he has a solid debut in A+ tonight, and a successful rise to the Reds.

medford
08-26-2008, 04:50 PM
another thought (besides the question that's been running thru my head all day: will directTV end their anti-Time Warner, pro Big 10 network adds now?)

It wouldn't suprise me if the minor leagues had rules against this. Something similar to the major league rules where a player has to be on your roster at a certain point to be eligible for the playoffs, or has to have been on the roster/league for a certain amount of games. This would prevent a team from calling down their AA players to the Dragons to whip thru the mid west league playoffs.

Anyone know for certain? Would it work both ways, where an injury could beset a late season call up to the AAA bats from Chatanooga? Could that kid be eligible for the Bats playoff run despite only spending a couple of days in AAA

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 04:53 PM
another thought (besides the question that's been running thru my head all day: will directTV end their anti-Time Warner, pro Big 10 network adds now?)

It wouldn't suprise me if the minor leagues had rules against this. Something similar to the major league rules where a player has to be on your roster at a certain point to be eligible for the playoffs, or has to have been on the roster/league for a certain amount of games. This would prevent a team from calling down their AA players to the Dragons to whip thru the mid west league playoffs.

Anyone know for certain? Would it work both ways, where an injury could beset a late season call up to the AAA bats from Chatanooga? Could that kid be eligible for the Bats playoff run despite only spending a couple of days in AAA
There are rules in place, but not that would prohibit things like this. Remember last year, Dayton got Waring with like 1 regular season game left, then he played in the playoffs with them. There are rules that prohibit guys from coming down certain levels (Bailey was doing rehab in Sarasota and couldn't pitch in the playoffs for them because of his time spent in AAA/MLB).

medford
08-26-2008, 05:04 PM
thanks doug, I figured you'd have the answer.

redsof72
08-26-2008, 05:11 PM
Congrats to Brandon Waring and Zack Cozart, named today to the Midwest League All-Star Team. One player at each position including DH plus four pitchers. Nice honor in a 14-team league.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 06:54 PM
Alonso is batting 3rd followed by Frazier 4th and Francisco 5th.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 07:05 PM
Rafael Gonzalez allows a solo homerun in the first inning. Sarasota trails 1-0 after a 1/2 inning.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 07:12 PM
Neftali Soto singles in his first atbat, extending his hitting streak to 11 games.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 07:14 PM
Yonder Alonso doubles in his first pro atbat and scores on a Todd Frazier RBI single!

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 07:15 PM
Stubbs just struck out on a ball 6 inches outside. Terrible call there.

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 07:18 PM
Bats take a 1-0 lead with an RBI single by Drew Anderson

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 07:19 PM
Chattanooga got postponed due to rain.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 07:20 PM
Yonder Alonso is batting 1.000 in High-A, he's clearly too good for that league. ;)

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 07:21 PM
Yonder Alonso is batting 1.000 in High-A, he's clearly too good for that league. ;)

Yeah, but his 3.000 OPS is pretty terrible considering the league. Billings seems like a good place to send him.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 07:27 PM
BTW, Yonder's double was to the opposite field.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 07:37 PM
Dayton is winning 4-0 after 1 1/2 innings.

Jones: 0-for-1 HBP
Cozart: 1-for-2
Soto: 2-for-2
Waring: 0-for-1
Mesoraco: 0-for-0 walk

Montano: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 07:42 PM
Homer Bailey to the Louisville DL, retroactive to two days ago. Ben Jukich back to AAA to fill in for Bailey.

Pettyjohn allows a solo HR and Louisville is tied at 1 in the 3rd.

crazyredfan40
08-26-2008, 07:44 PM
I know I am stating the obvious but Soto is hot right now...

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 07:45 PM
I know I am stating the obvious but Soto is hot right now...

Yep. He's now got four straight multi hit games and 2+ hits in eight of his last 11 games.

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 07:45 PM
I know I am stating the obvious but Soto is hot right now...

And when you say right now, you mean all year, right? :beerme:

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 07:47 PM
Columbus takes a 2-1 lead over Louisville.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 07:48 PM
Soto is on about a 50 double/20 homerun pace over a full season. As that wiry frame of his fills out some of those double should turn into homeruns. This kid is going to be a special hitter IMO. It will be interesting to see if he cracks the Baseball America top 100 prospects list.

redhawk61
08-26-2008, 07:51 PM
When is Soto going to learn that he can't improve his walk rate if he keeps getting hits like this,.... its unbelievable, his stubbornness to not take a walk;)

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 07:51 PM
Soto is on about a 50 double/20 homerun pace over a full season. As that wiry frame of his fills out some of those double should turn into homeruns. This kid is going to be a special hitter IMO. It will be interesting to see if he cracks the Baseball America top 100 prospects list.

If he doesn't there needs to be an investigation.

RedsManRick
08-26-2008, 07:53 PM
Homer Bailey to the Louisville DL, retroactive to two days ago. Ben Jukich back to AAA to fill in for Bailey.

Pettyjohn allows a solo HR and Louisville is tied at 1 in the 3rd.

Is Bailey suffering from a broken ability to be a good pitcher?

New Fever
08-26-2008, 07:55 PM
If he doesn't there needs to be an investigation.

Yea he is pretty much guaranteed to be on there, Jim Callis loves him and said it would be close between him and Alonso for the top prospect in the system.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 07:55 PM
If he doesn't there needs to be an investigation.

Agreed. He's top 75 IMO.

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 07:55 PM
Drew Stubbs gets hosed again. Slider that was well outside called strike 3 on Stubbs again. This ump has a very wide strikezone on the outside part of the plate.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 08:02 PM
Soto hit a sac fly his next time up.

redhawk61
08-26-2008, 08:08 PM
Alonso grounds out to 2nd

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 08:21 PM
Sarasota trails 3-1 after five innings.

Alonso: 1-for-2 double
Frazier: 1-for-2
Francisco: 2-for-2 double
Parker: 0-for-2

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 08:26 PM
Drew Stubbs with an RBI single on a line drive into LF. Ties the game.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 08:26 PM
Stubbs with a RBI single to tie the game at 2-2.

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 08:36 PM
Louisville down 3-2.

LouisvilleCARDS
08-26-2008, 08:39 PM
Comeon Bats. Gotta hit that 90 win mark. :eek:

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 08:57 PM
Dayton is winning 5-2 after 6 1/2.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:00 PM
Mace Thurman throws a 1-2-3 7th inning with 2 K's. Still 5-2 Dayton after seven.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:01 PM
Yonder Alonso draws a walk in his next plate appearance. He's 1-for-2 with a double and a walk so far.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:04 PM
Louisville trails 3-2 after 6 1/2 innings.

Bolivar: 2-for-3 two doubles
Stubbs: 1-for-3
Anderson: 1-for-3
Griffin: 2-for-3
Castillo: 1-for-3

Pettyjohn: 7 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 0 BB, 10 K

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:17 PM
5-3 Dayton after eight innings.

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 09:19 PM
Ryan Wagner sighting in the Bats game. Pitching out of the pen for Columbus.

klw
08-26-2008, 09:20 PM
Yonder Alonso draws a walk in his next plate appearance. He's 1-for-2 with a double and a walk so far.

No hr's? Bust!

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:20 PM
Roenicke threw a scoreless 8th to keep it 3-2.

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 09:23 PM
Drew Stubbs gets down 0-2 before working a walk.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:23 PM
Stubbs draws a one out walk after falling behind 0-2. Stubbs is 1-for-3 with a RBI single and a walk, and has seen a total of 27 pitches in four plate appearances.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:24 PM
They just did a Yonder Alonso update during the Reds game and they said his double was off the left field wall.

dougdirt
08-26-2008, 09:25 PM
Drew Anderson grounds to first and the 1B stepped on the bag and threw to second to try and get Stubbs, but he threw it into LF and Stubbs got to 3rd. Bats down 1, so if Griffin can get it done, we could have a tie game. Griffin hits it hard, but right at the right fielder to strand Stubbs at 3B.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:27 PM
Alex Buchholz singles in his first atbat.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:29 PM
Griffin failed to get Stubbs in so it's still 3-2 after eight innings.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:30 PM
Dayton is winning 6-3 going to the bottom of the 9th inning.

redhawk61
08-26-2008, 09:31 PM
stewart with a scoreless inning with 2 K's

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:33 PM
stewart with a scoreless inning with 2 K's

He has been very, very impressive since signing. I look for him to get a long look next spring but still probably begin the season in Chattanooga with a chance to reach the majors late in the season.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:36 PM
Dayton won 6-3.

Jones: 1-for-4 HBP
Cozart: 1-for-5
Soto: 2-for-4 sac fly, 2 RBI
Phipps: 1-for-4 walk
Waring: 1-for-5
Mesoraco: 1-for-4 walk

Montano: 6 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 BB, 3 K

Thurman: 3 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 6 K...10 BB/42 K in 31.1 IP.

Dayton's magic number has been cut to four and could drop to three if Fort Wayne loses tonight.

redhawk61
08-26-2008, 09:39 PM
Alonso K's in his final AB

1-3 double, walk

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:40 PM
Fay says on his blog that Walt Jocketty is in Sarasota watching Yonder Alonso tonight.

LouisvilleCARDS
08-26-2008, 09:40 PM
So anyone have an update on the position on all the Reds minor league teams in the playoff races? I know the Bats have clinched and play Durham first round. How are the other squads doing?

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:41 PM
Sarasota lost 4-1.

Alonso: 1-for-3 double, walk
Frazier: 1-for-4
Francisco: 2-for-4 double
Parker: 0-for-3
Perales: 0-for-2 walk

Stewart: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:43 PM
So anyone have an update on the position on all the Reds minor league teams in the playoff races? I know the Bats have clinched and play Durham first round. How are the other squads doing?

Billings has also clinched and Dayton has a three game lead (four if Fort Wayne loses) with six games left. Everybody else missed the playoffs.

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:46 PM
Louisville lost 3-2.

Bolivar: 2-for-4 two doubles
Stubbs: 1-for-3 walk
Anderson: 1-for-4
Griffin: 2-for-4
Castillo: 1-for-4

Pettyjohn: 7 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 0 BB, 10 K

Roenicke: 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K

LouisvilleCARDS
08-26-2008, 09:47 PM
Ah okay, thanks. Dayton has a really good following for Single A, thats all I know, big attendance there over the years. I'm surprised they're not Double A and Chatanooga relegated to single A

OnBaseMachine
08-26-2008, 09:58 PM
Buchholz is 2-for-2.

Ga_Red
08-26-2008, 10:16 PM
FTR:

Red's EST is an operation, separate from and independent of GCL and FSL teams...fwiw

AmarilloRed
08-27-2008, 12:51 AM
Mustangs won 8-7

Bucholz went 5-5, BA at .407

Brown:1-4, double

Sappelt:1-4, double

Konstanty: 1-4, HR, 3 RBI

Astorga:5 IP, 5 hits, 3 runs, 1 ER, 3 K

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2008, 11:39 AM
Fort Wayne lost last night so Dayton's magic number to clinch a playoff berth is now just three games. They lead the wild card by 3.5 with just six games to play.