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Red in Chicago
08-27-2008, 06:57 PM
Cincinnati
C. Dickerson lf
J. Keppinger ss
B. Phillips 2b
J. Votto 1b
J. Bruce rf
E. Encarnacion 3b
C. Patterson cf
P. Bako c
J. Fogg p

Houston
D. Erstad lf
T. Wigginton 3b
M. Tejada ss
L. Berkman 1b
G. Blum 2b
H. Pence rf
M. Bourn cf
B. Ausmus c
R. Oswalt p

Red in Chicago
08-27-2008, 08:39 PM
opening it up early, since participation has been a bit low lately :p:

Degenerate39
08-27-2008, 08:43 PM
What happened to having too many outs at the bottom of the order? Patterson, Bako, and Fogg. I'm guessing Walt stopped listening to that crap?

WVRedsFan
08-27-2008, 08:50 PM
What happened to having too many outs at the bottom of the order? Patterson, Bako, and Fogg. I'm guessing Walt stopped listening to that crap?

Truth is, none of these three players should be with the club in any way shape or form. Two are Dusty proteges and the other the work of one Wayne Krivsky, who actually thought Fogg would be a decent fifth starter (even though he had three fifth starters on the team already). Three automatic outs on a team that is offensively challenged anyway. Against Oswalt.

For those who like pitching and defense, this game will the nightmare that can only happen when your offense puts you out of games like this before they begin. I can't wait.

Ltlabner
08-27-2008, 08:53 PM
Speed and Defense Baby!

Matt700wlw
08-27-2008, 09:11 PM
A run!

Red in Chicago
08-27-2008, 09:14 PM
A run!

the chances of you saying that again tonight are remote;)

RFS62
08-27-2008, 09:16 PM
Hey, Fogg is no hitting the Astro's, and we're beating Oswalt.

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2008, 09:17 PM
Josh Fogg vs Roy Oswalt. Sounds like a Reds win to me. Seriously. I'm calling a Reds win vs Oswalt tonight. If I'm wrong then Redszone can give me a wedgie.

RedsManRick
08-27-2008, 09:26 PM
Sigh. Running in to outs is bad, especially at home. Still looked like he may have been in under the tag.

GAC
08-27-2008, 09:27 PM
What simply stupid (or over aggressive) base running.

And good ol' EE strolling in from home.

WVRedsFan
08-27-2008, 09:31 PM
Josh Fogg vs Roy Oswalt. Sounds like a Reds win to me. Seriously. I'm calling a Reds win vs Oswalt tonight. If I'm wrong then Redszone can give me a wedgie.

I'll be the designated widgier. I'm only 50 miles from him :).

WVRedsFan
08-27-2008, 09:32 PM
There goes the no-no. Only lasted an inning.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 09:33 PM
There goes the no-no. Only lasted an inning.

I think he's just going for the complete game shutout. ;)

CTA513
08-27-2008, 09:34 PM
There goes the no-no. Only lasted an inning.

Fogg should have retired while he still had the perfect game going.

;)

WVRedsFan
08-27-2008, 09:34 PM
Another miscue from Edwin--21.

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2008, 09:35 PM
I'll be the designated widgier. I'm only 50 miles from him :).

Gotta catch me first. :D

EdE commits a one out error.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 09:35 PM
Another miscue from Edwin--21.

Tough error to take there. That was an absolute rocket off the bat of Pence.

WVRedsFan
08-27-2008, 09:37 PM
Gotta catch me first. :D

EdE commits a one out error.

Good point. I've got Sean Casey speed. :cool:

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2008, 09:38 PM
Good point. I've got Sean Casey speed. :cool:

I do too, sadly. My dad is 50 years old and can still outrun me by a mile.

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2008, 09:41 PM
Oswalt just threw a four pitch inning.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 09:42 PM
Reds go through the top of the 3rd in 4 pitches. I love this new aggressive approach.

Matt700wlw
08-27-2008, 09:43 PM
I blinked....I think I missed the top of the 3rd...

Matt700wlw
08-27-2008, 09:46 PM
Reds go through the top of the 3rd in 4 pitches. I love this new aggressive approach.

With Oswalt, you have to be....he doesn't walk guys, and if u don't swing, you'll be at his mercy in a hurry, because he's a strike machine. Getting hits or fouls is the only way to really run up his pitch count

Screwball
08-27-2008, 09:47 PM
With Oswalt, you have to be....he doesn't walk guys, and if u don't swing, you'll be at his mercy in a hurry, because he's a strike machine. Getting hits or fouls is the only way to really run up his pitch count

I could buy that if it was just against Oswalt. But we've seen this all season, and Dunn/Griffey's absence has only exacerbated the problem. This team is hacktastic, and IMO it's hurting the offense in a big way.

Matt700wlw
08-27-2008, 09:49 PM
Can't argue that point

Screwball
08-27-2008, 09:51 PM
Votto works a walk on 7 pitches. Refreshing. :)

Screwball
08-27-2008, 09:53 PM
Oswalt then gets the next 3 outs on 4 pitches. :laugh:

mbgrayson
08-27-2008, 09:55 PM
11 pitch 4th inning there....Either Oswalt is very pitch efficient or the Reds hack alot....lol

Oswalt at 51 pitches thru 4...

Screwball
08-27-2008, 09:55 PM
Tejada with a leadoff single through the box in the bottom of 4.

Berkman up again.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 09:59 PM
Berkman golfs a bloop into shallow left. Runners on 1st and 2nd with 0 out.

Blum up.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:03 PM
Wow, strike 'em out, throw 'em out DP. Tejada out at 3rd.

Sixpence due up.

GAC
08-27-2008, 10:03 PM
Very impressive Hanigan. ;)

WVRedsFan
08-27-2008, 10:04 PM
Fudge. And he was doing so well.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:04 PM
Crawford boxes = joke.

112 ft HR for Pence scores 2. 2-1 Astros now.

WVRedsFan
08-27-2008, 10:05 PM
Anyone know why they call them the Crawford boxes?

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2008, 10:06 PM
I was just joking about the wedgie thing.;)

GAC
08-27-2008, 10:06 PM
Fudge. And he was doing so well.

With Fogg, you better have the BP ready by the 5th regardless of how well he is doing. ;)

RedFanAlways1966
08-27-2008, 10:08 PM
Anyone know why they call them the Crawford boxes?

From wikipedia...

The boxes are named for their being parallel to Crawford Street in Downtown Houston.

The Crawford Boxes are located in left field in Minute Maid Park with one of the shortest porches in baseball. The home-plate-to-wall measurement of the boxes is only 315 feet (96 meters). The 19-foot wall that maintains the front of the elevated boxes houses the hand-operated scoreboard for other games occurring the same day.

Due to their popularity, Crawford Box seats are among the most expensive of outfield seats in the major leagues (an individual ticket is $32).

Landry's Restaurants, Inc. have bought out the naming rights to the Crawford Boxes, lending the commercial moniker "Landry's Crawford Boxes" during radio and television broadcasts. In addition, promoters from restaurants owned by Landry's (such as Rainforest Cafe and Saltgrass Steakhouse) visit on random days and throw gifts such as T-shirts, keychains, frisbees, and stuffed animals to the fans in the boxes. Traditionally, any fan that catches a home run ball that lands in the Crawford Boxes wins a gift certificate to a Landry's Restaurant.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:08 PM
Jason Bourne flies out to center. Score would be 1-1 on any field other than one resembling something out of Williamsport.

But hey, on the bright side Patterson's due up to start the 5th. He grounds to SS.

Bako also grounds out to short. 2 out.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:11 PM
Fogg Ks.

Oswalt cruises through the top of the 5th in 8 pitches. 59 total through 5 IP (45 strikes, 14 balls. Wow).

WVRedsFan
08-27-2008, 10:12 PM
Hate to say this, but I doubt we'll score 2 runs in this game, so all the Stros need is one more.

Sad.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:14 PM
Hate to say this, but I doubt we'll score 2 runs in this game, so all the Stros need is one more.

Sad.

Do they even need the one more?

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:15 PM
Oswalt with a 1 out single.

CTA513
08-27-2008, 10:15 PM
Oswalt with a 1 out single.

Oswalt for Reds #4 hitter.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:17 PM
Oswalt for Reds #4 hitter.

Nah, not aggressive enough.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:18 PM
Fogg gets the other two outs rather easily. Still 2-1 'Stros after 5.

Dickerson, Kepp, Phillips due up in the 6th.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:23 PM
Dickerson works the count full and then watches ball 4. Nice AB there.

Leadoff runner on 1st for Kepp.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:24 PM
Kepp's dribbler to short allows Dickerson to get to 2nd.

1 out with Phillips up.

VR
08-27-2008, 10:25 PM
Dickerson works the count full and then watches ball 4. Nice AB there.

Leadoff runner on 1st for Kepp.

Good to work him over, then swing at the first pitch on the next ab for a weak grounder.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:26 PM
Phillips dribbles one down to 1st, getting Dickerson to 3rd.

2 down now with Votto at bat.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:31 PM
Votto's hanging tough, fouling off a couple 95 mph fastballs with 2 strikes.

However, the 96 mph heater gets him swinging. 2-1 'Stros in the middle of 6 with Tejada, Berkman and Blum due up.

PuffyPig
08-27-2008, 10:32 PM
Good to work him over, then swing at the first pitch on the next ab for a weak grounder.


Oswalt is not the type of pitcher you want to give free strikes to.

He's usually around the plate;the first pitch might be your best chance.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:44 PM
Fogg gives up a walk to Berkman and a single to Pence, but gets out of the inning unscathed.

2-1 Astros after 6. Bruce, EE, and Patterson due up.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:46 PM
Bruce ropes a leadoff single into left.

EE digs in.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:47 PM
Edwin GIDP on the 2nd pitch. 2 outs with a pitcher due up.

Yuck.

Matt700wlw
08-27-2008, 10:48 PM
Fogg hanging in there so far....maybe they should keep him :p:

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:48 PM
Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. Patterson with a groundball single up the middle. Bako now up.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:52 PM
Bako grounds out to 2nd.

Oswalt with 90 pitches through 7, Fogg with 101. I imagine Dusty will bring in someone to relieve Fogg.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:53 PM
I imagine Dusty will bring in someone to relieve Fogg.

That someone is Majewski. He'll face Ausmus, Oswalt and Erstad.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:56 PM
Ausmus grounds out to Votto.

David Newhan in to PH for Oswalt. He also grounds out to Votto. I'm surprised they didn't let Oswalt go 1 more.

mbgrayson
08-27-2008, 10:59 PM
Wigginton with a 2 run dinger....

Stros 4, Reds 1.

Game....I'm afraid.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 10:59 PM
Majewski gives up a single to Erstad and then a big fly to Wigginton. 4-1 Astros.

I'm gonna wedgie the crap out of OBM.

redsmetz
08-27-2008, 11:02 PM
Wigginton with a 2 run dinger....

Stros 4, Reds 1.

Game....I'm afraid.

You're probably right, but it would be nice to see us, for once, to come back and this thing. That seems such a rare event now.

Matt700wlw
08-27-2008, 11:02 PM
Let's wedgie Majewski

klw
08-27-2008, 11:03 PM
Its Rosales' fault. He isn't producing at all.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 11:04 PM
Rosales PHing for Fogg. Welsh says he'd like to see him get a start.

Rosales Ks on some high heat.

CTA513
08-27-2008, 11:04 PM
Let's wedgie Majewski

I would rather lock him in a port-o-let and tip it over.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 11:09 PM
Kepp with a solid single up the middle but ultiately the Reds go down quietly in the 8th.

Still 4-1 Astros.

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2008, 11:12 PM
I'm gonna wedgie the crap out of OBM.

You'd like that wouldn't ya? ;)

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2008, 11:16 PM
George just made me laugh out loud. He said Sean Casey could walk up to one of those silent British guards and get them to talk. I don't know why but that made me laugh hard.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 11:17 PM
You'd like that wouldn't ya? ;)

<Slowly backs out of thread> ;)

Bray gives up a single to Berkman and hits Blum with a pitch, but gets Pence to K looking and Jason Bourne to fly out to center.

Ausmus now up and Dusty will bring in Hot Rod.

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2008, 11:19 PM
I hope Mike Lincoln stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 11:22 PM
Nice, Lincoln Ks Ausmus with a fastball upstairs.

Last chance for the Reds. They'll send up Votto, Bruce, and Edwin to face Jose Valverde.

klw
08-27-2008, 11:24 PM
Nice, Lincoln Ks Ausmus with a fastball upstairs.

Last chance for the Reds. They'll send up Votto, Bruce, and Edwin to face Jose Valverde.

Well this trio could make it worth staying up a few minutes more.

OldXOhio
08-27-2008, 11:24 PM
Josh Fogg vs Roy Oswalt. Sounds like a Reds win to me. Seriously. I'm calling a Reds win vs Oswalt tonight. If I'm wrong then Redszone can give me a wedgie.

Vegas called. Said never bet against a streak.

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2008, 11:26 PM
Vegas called. Said never bet against a streak.

I'll keep that in mind next time.

Votto walks.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 11:26 PM
Votto walks on 4 pitches.

1 on, noboby out for Bruce.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 11:29 PM
Valverde starts Bruce off with back to back fastballs at 97 mph, both for strikes. He then finishes him off with a nasty splitter at 88 mph to get Bruce swinging.

Votto still at first with Edwin now up. 1 out.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 11:30 PM
Valverde Ks EE looking with a 98 mph fastball on the black, inside.

2 down with, sigh, Patterson now up.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 11:32 PM
Patterson strikes out swinging to end the game. Astros win 4-1. Oswalt improves to about 360,000,000,000-1 against the Reds.

On the bright side, I don't think anybody even cares anymore.

Screwball
08-27-2008, 11:33 PM
double post

OldXOhio
08-27-2008, 11:33 PM
I'll keep that in mind next time.

Votto walks.

fwiw, I was right there with ya....except for the wedgie thing of course. Has to end sometime, just not tonight I guess.

Matt700wlw
08-27-2008, 11:34 PM
I say forfeit the rest of them. :)

HokieRed
08-27-2008, 11:37 PM
Has there been a worse Reds team offensively?

Matt700wlw
08-27-2008, 11:40 PM
Has there been a worse Reds team offensively?

1982?

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2008, 11:49 PM
fwiw, I was right there with ya....except for the wedgie thing of course. Has to end sometime, just not tonight I guess.

I guarantee a Reds win against Oswalt next time. ;)

Spring~Fields
08-28-2008, 12:08 AM
I say forfeit the rest of them. :)

Send up the Louisville Bats, send down the Cincinnati Reds, managers and coaches included. :thumbup:

WVRedsFan
08-28-2008, 12:33 AM
1982?

Close.

The 1982 team scored 545 runs - avg. - .3.36 rpg
The 2008 team scored 556 runs - avg. - 4.21 rpg (in 132 games)

The 1982 team had 1375 hits - avg - 8.48 hpg
The 2008 team has 1087 hits - avg - 8.23 hpg

One has to consider that a lot of the 2008 statistics included Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey, Jr. It is notable that the 1982 team hit .251 while this year's team is in at .244.

Regardless, both are pitiful and what was a great pitching performance (despite the incompetence of Majewski) where the staff only allowed 4 runs, the horrible offensive team that this team is was defeated after the first home run.