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Blimpie
08-29-2008, 03:28 PM
Okay, it is time for UK and Louisville fans to begin the discussion....

We are now EXACTLY 48 hours away from the kickoff of one of the most anticipated seasons in the history of Kentucky football.

Here is a little blurb to get the juices pumping for those who like the Big Blue:


SCOUTING THE OFFENSE: It will be interesting to see just how different this offense is without prolific quarterback Andre Woodson, who fueled an aggressive downfield passing attack the past two seasons. But Woodson, along with his four top weapons, is in the NFL, leaving offensive coordinator Joker Phillips with an offense lacking playmakers. Most expect Phillips to become more run-oriented, but the Wildcats' running game benefited mightily from the passing game. Without some kind of deep threat, the draws and delays, which were effective last season, might not have the same kind of success.

SCOUTING THE DEFENSE: Loaded with future NFL talent, the Wildcats are expected to feature their best defense in Rich Brooks' tenure. To reach its full potential, the unit that returns seven starters will need to improve in two key areas from last season. The Wildcats struggled to stop the run, surrendering close to 200 rushing yards per game. They were also last in the SEC in third-down defense.

QUOTE TO NOTE: "We want to have the best defense in the country. I know Kentucky's been known for offense for 100 years, but it's our time to step up. We've got guys that can start on other SEC teams, and that's a key. Usually if you have a great team, you have a lot of draft picks. And we have some guys that will get drafted. That's another key." -- defensive coordinator Steve Brown.


and this one as well....


Brooks pleased with second scrimmage
Chip Cosby / Herald-Leader Staff Writer

The offense was on the spot during the University of Kentucky’s second scrimmage yesterday, and while no statistics were released, the first words that came out of Rich Brooks’ mouth automatically meant a better showing for the much-maligned unit.


“We did score touchdowns today,” Brooks said, noting that most of the scrimmage pitted the first-team offense against the second-team defense and vice versa.


The offense was kept out of the end zone in the first scrimmage last week, which sparked concerns about the unit heading into next Sunday’s opener at Louisville.


Brooks said that the offensive line, under the microscope after being called out by him last week, showed improvement yesterday. The quarterbacks were not allowed to be hit, but Brooks estimated there would have been only two sacks if the quarterbacks took contact.


“The protection was much better today,” he said. “There were some good runs made, there were some holes, there was some push moving the pile. It looked more like what I thought it was going to look today than it did last week.”


Brooks said it’s still hard to get a good read on exactly where his team’s at.


“It’s a little scary obviously because you never know who’s doing something good or who’s doing not so good because you’re going against yourself,” Brooks said. “But there were a lot of good individual plays today.”


Brooks will put the players through a light practice Sunday before giving them the day off on Monday. The Wildcats will start their normal game week routine on Tuesday.


“We didn’t look as quick as we needed to be today,” Brooks said. “We need to freshen up and get some bounce back in our step now.”


Brooks said the only real disappointment from the scrimmage was the performance of kicker Lones Seiber.


“He missed several field goals that he’s got to make,” he said.


Season ticket sales surpass ’07


With UK’s home opener less than two weeks away, more than 52,800 season tickets have been issued, already surpassing the total for 2007.


For the general public, less than 700 season tickets remain at a cost of $230 (upper level sideline) or $195 (upper level goal line) each. At this time, the only way for the public to acquire tickets for the South Carolina and Georgia games is by purchasing a season ticket.


The 52,800 number includes 5,540 season tickets purchased by students. Student sales continue at a brisk pace and the final number is expected to surpass the student record of 5,568 season tickets bought last year.


“The fans have been great,” Brooks said. “It’s obvious they’re anticipating the upcoming season as well. I’m hopeful that we can close out the remaining tickets in the next couple of weeks and have a complete sellout in season tickets, which we’re very close to doing. Now we need all of them in there screaming like crazy at every home game.”


The UK athletics ticket office, located in the Joe Craft Center, has extended window hours until the first home game. Ticket office window sales will be available from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m., Monday through Friday, through Sept. 5. Tickets also can be purchased online at www.ukathletics.com. The phone number is 800-928-CATS or (859) 257-1818. Wildcat fans broke every school record for attendance last season: total attendance of 550,588 in eight home games; average attendance of 68,824 per game, and a single-game record of 71,024 for the Florida game.


Pulley on TV


Wildcat fans can catch former UK quarterback Curtis Pulley on the airwaves several times throughout the season. Pulley enrolled at Florida A&M this week, and the Rattlers are on either ESPNU or ESPN Classic three times. They play at Delaware State on Thursday, Sept. 4 on ESPNU, host Winston Salem State Thursday, Oct. 9 on ESPNU, and host Bethune-Cookman Sat. Nov. 22 on ESPN Classic.


‘Tom’s Top 25 Calls’ set for Aug. 30


Tom’s Top 25 Calls, a countdown of UK play-by-play announcer Tom Leach’s most memorable moments on the microphone, will air Saturday, Aug. 30 at 9 p.m. on WKYT-TV. Leach has been calling Kentucky football games since 1997. Quarterbacks Tim Couch and Andre Woodson were directly involved in four of the plays — tying for the most of any individual. The 2006 season had the most plays to make the list. Once the countdown gets to the Top 10, there will be interviews with players and coaches talking about the specific plays.


Tom’s Top 25 Calls is preceded by Dave Baker’s SEC preview at 8, and a UK preview featuring Rob Bromley and former UK quarterback Tim Couch at 8:30.

Boston Red
08-29-2008, 03:55 PM
I'm a Louisville fan, and I expect both teams to be pretty down. Hopefully the senior Cantwell can avoid making mistakes that the green sophomore Hartline cannot avoid and it turns out to be the difference.

roundboy22
08-29-2008, 06:51 PM
Who is Cantwell going to throw it too?

Blimpie
08-29-2008, 07:42 PM
I'm a Louisville fan, and I expect both teams to be pretty down. Hopefully the senior Cantwell can avoid making mistakes that the green sophomore Hartline cannot avoid and it turns out to be the difference.I would be ecstatic with an 7-5 season for UK.

WVRed
08-29-2008, 10:35 PM
If I had to predict:


Louisville: Toss up. Both teams are going to be down. How Kragthorpe adjusts after last years abomination will be key. Whether Kentucky has the receivers to replace Burton or Johnson however is another story.

Norfolk State: Kentucky

Middle Tennessee: Kentucky

Western Kentucky: Kentucky

at Alabama: Alabama. Tuscaloosa is a tough place to play. The only thing Kentucky has is that Alabama is a young team growing under Saban. There is just too much talent on the field though at a hostile stadium.

South Carolina: South Carolina. I want to say playing at Commonwealth would help Kentucky, but Spurrier has always had the Cats number every year.

Arkansas: Kentucky. New coaching staff, Mallett has to sit a year. Kentucky will have the advantage.

at Florida: Florida. Anybody who thinks Kentucky will win this game needs to take off the blue tinted homer shades.

at Mississippi State: Kentucky. Its a road game, but Croom will be fighting for his job.

Georgia: Georgia. See Florida

Vanderbilt: Kentucky. The opposite of what I said about Florida. Might be different if Jay Cutler was the QB.

at Tennessee: Tennessee. See South Carolina. I also like Jon Crompton and think he will do well in getting the Vols back.

So basically, if Kentucky is going to get a bowl bid, its going to hinge on the Louisville game.

Hollcat
08-30-2008, 03:45 AM
Who is Cantwell going to throw it too?

Trevard Lindley:thumbup:

PedroBourbon
08-30-2008, 07:24 AM
If I had to predict:



So basically, if Kentucky is going to get a bowl bid, its going to hinge on the Louisville game.

I agree with you WV, I think you called it (On the whole season picks.) I will go ahead and predict a UK win in Louisville. UL offense is not the steamroller they have been for the past 8-10 seasons. UK defense is up this year. Anyone who follows these two teams knows this is usually not the scenario. Cats 27-20.

jmac
08-30-2008, 08:51 AM
I think it is a toss up.
I thought all offseason...UK may have better chance just for this one game with Pulley in there because..the scrambling type gave Uof L fits last year.

Well...Pulley is gone now......but dont be surprised to see Cobb in there if Hartline struggles. Cobb has an excellent arm and can run the ball also. As a true freshman..he moved ahead of Fidler for the second string.

I am thinking the cats can put in the 17-24 point range and am hoping with Jarmon , Peters, Johnson and co on defense..that will be enough.

In a side note...congrats to the cats on landing two of the top QB'S in next seasons class: Morgan Newton & Ryan Massakowi.

I like Massakowski's father response on if his son would still come after Newton signed.
Cant remember exact words or teams he used as an example but it was something like this:
"yes of course...if he had went to florida or texas...he would have faced quality competition for the QB spot"

Massakowski is out of texas and Newton out of Indiana.
Here is a clip I found of Massakowski:
The kid is 6'4. sees the field well. throws on the run. accurate.

Massakowski's team won their opener 71-20 btw.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZGGWR4jMJA

Blimpie
08-30-2008, 03:15 PM
Trevard Lindley:thumbup:Sounds good to me....

Actually, I think Lindley could get some All-American consideration this year.

joshnky
08-31-2008, 06:49 PM
Wow. Two very terrible offenses. It's amazing how much trouble the Louisville receivers had doing such a simple thing as catching the ball.

I give credit to Kentucky. Their defense was much better than I thought it would be. It will be interesting to see how they stack up against a quality offense.

dougdirt
08-31-2008, 07:04 PM
Wow. Two very terrible offenses. It's amazing how much trouble the Louisville receivers had doing such a simple thing as catching the ball.

I give credit to Kentucky. Their defense was much better than I thought it would be. It will be interesting to see how they stack up against a quality offense.

It honestly looked like the Louisville receivers had problems finding the ball when it was coming to them. The ball would hit them before they knew it was coming. As a group, they looked pretty lost.

cincrazy
08-31-2008, 07:20 PM
Color me as unimpressed in regards to Cantwell. There's been so much hype surrounding this guy, and I just don't see it. Sure, he's got a cannon, and his receivers didn't help him any. But his accuracy isn't outstanding, and it takes him FOREVER to release the ball. I thought Leftwich was bad, but he makes Leftwich look like he gets rid of the ball in a heartbeat.

PedroBourbon
08-31-2008, 09:22 PM
I agree with you WV, I think you called it (On the whole season picks.) I will go ahead and predict a UK win in Louisville. UL offense is not the steamroller they have been for the past 8-10 seasons. UK defense is up this year. Anyone who follows these two teams knows this is usually not the scenario. Cats 27-20.

There was a typo in my last reply, I meant 27-2 (note the unintended extra 0);)

durl
08-31-2008, 10:21 PM
I never anticipated Kentucky's defense to look as good as they did. True, Louisville's offense isn't what it once was but UK impressed me.

The offense failed to impress but it's just the first game. I believe they'll improve. Could be another fun year for UK fans.

George Foster
08-31-2008, 10:28 PM
the "star" of the game was the fantastic freshman Cobb. He's a playmaker.

I would give Hartline another start. If he fails to impress, I would start Cobb as the QB. He's the real deal.

cumberlandreds
09-01-2008, 12:09 AM
the "star" of the game was the fantastic freshman Cobb. He's a playmaker.

I would give Hartline another start. If he fails to impress, I would start Cobb as the QB. He's the real deal.

I would just keep Cobb at WR. UK doesn't really have anyone else who's a real playmaker on offense. Hartline didn't make any bad mistakes except for the safety. As long he limits his mistakes he will be fine,IMO. Big win today. I certainly can see a 7-5 season. Win the next three and I can them with at least three wins in the SEC,Arkansas,Vandy and Miss State. I'm not ruling out South Carolina. If they can muster up 20 points in that game,they will win. 8-4 is doable for sure.

Javy Pornstache
09-01-2008, 12:48 AM
I hope they can win at least three in the SEC, but I know one thing - a lot of people are marking Mississippi State as a win (not singling you out, cumberlandreds, just a general statement), and they have, I think at least, more players back than anyone in the SEC, and beat UK at Commonwealth last year, so I can see them having a hard time in Starkville. Hopefully UK will have a chip on their shoulders from last year's embarrassing performance (easily their most disappointing game of an otherwise successful season last year) and come in there ready to go. But who knows.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Very enjoyable win today!

Blimpie
09-01-2008, 09:19 AM
Color me as unimpressed in regards to Cantwell. There's been so much hype surrounding this guy, and I just don't see it. Sure, he's got a cannon, and his receivers didn't help him any. But his accuracy isn't outstanding, and it takes him FOREVER to release the ball. I thought Leftwich was bad, but he makes Leftwich look like he gets rid of the ball in a heartbeat.Cantwell appeared to use the same throwing velocity on a screen pass that he did on a 30 yard out pattern.

If he has any "touch" whatsoever, I did not see it yesterday.

Blimpie
09-01-2008, 09:23 AM
the "star" of the game was the fantastic freshman Cobb. He's a playmaker.

I would give Hartline another start. If he fails to impress, I would start Cobb as the QB. He's the real deal.IMO, Myron Pryor was the star of the game.

I like Cobb as well, but not as QB right now. We need his athleticism in the receiving routes. He is too far behind in the QB reps from what I have heard. Right now, they are putting together some goal line packages for him at QB--but that is really all.

cumberlandreds
09-01-2008, 11:49 AM
I hope they can win at least three in the SEC, but I know one thing - a lot of people are marking Mississippi State as a win (not singling you out, cumberlandreds, just a general statement), and they have, I think at least, more players back than anyone in the SEC, and beat UK at Commonwealth last year, so I can see them having a hard time in Starkville. Hopefully UK will have a chip on their shoulders from last year's embarrassing performance (easily their most disappointing game of an otherwise successful season last year) and come in there ready to go. But who knows.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Very enjoyable win today!

I watched Miss State lose to La Tech Saturday night. They did not look good at all,IMO. Very poor offensively and really not that good defensively. It will tough game down in Starkville for sure but it's one the Cats can win.

WVRed
09-01-2008, 02:09 PM
Cantwell appeared to use the same throwing velocity on a screen pass that he did on a 30 yard out pattern.

If he has any "touch" whatsoever, I did not see it yesterday.

He has a very funky release, to say the least. Even more awkward to watch than Aaron Rodgers at Cal.

Boston Red
09-02-2008, 09:26 AM
the "star" of the game was the fantastic freshman Cobb. He's a playmaker.

I would give Hartline another start. If he fails to impress, I would start Cobb as the QB. He's the real deal.


No one on the offensive side of the ball on either team was a "star". That was some heinous offense by both sides, the difference in the game being that Kentucky was far, far superior on the defensive side of the ball (obviously).

joshnky
09-02-2008, 10:16 AM
The game really turned on Bilal Powell's fumble that was returned for the TD making the game 10-0. That allowed UK to play extremely conservative and protect Hartline from making any mistakes. It also eventually forced Louisville to scramble to catch up in the 4th before Cantwell imploded before an opportunistic UK D.

RedsFan75
09-02-2008, 11:02 AM
I think Cantwell's throwing motion lead to the implosion, and what I couldn't understand is why he didn't try to throw to the 6'8" guy more often, if he got the ball to him it was caught, KY couldn't stop him.

I fully expected that game to go UL's way, but I was very happy with the outcome... I was surprised by how good that D was against UofL.

WVRed
09-02-2008, 03:54 PM
Keep Cobb at wideout. We are going to have enough problems there as it is.

The real intrigue will be next season seeing how we use Newton and Hartline together, possibly. Could be a Tim Tebow-Chris Leak type of offense.

The defense is going to keep them in a lot of ballgames, that much is for certain.

Blimpie
09-02-2008, 08:29 PM
Keep Cobb at wideout. We are going to have enough problems there as it is.

The real intrigue will be next season seeing how we use Newton and Hartline together, possibly. Could be a Tim Tebow-Chris Leak type of offense.

The defense is going to keep them in a lot of ballgames, that much is for certain.Ditto x 100

jmac
09-02-2008, 10:31 PM
Keep Cobb at wideout. We are going to have enough problems there as it is.

The real intrigue will be next season seeing how we use Newton and Hartline together, possibly. Could be a Tim Tebow-Chris Leak type of offense.

The defense is going to keep them in a lot of ballgames, that much is for certain.

As far as receivers, Brooks said Aaron Boyd has been cleared to play so they will evaluate him as far as how far along he is and what is best. Redshirt or not.

Also dont forget about the kid from Texas. I posted a video of him in post #8 of this thread. My guess is one of the Newton/Massakowski duo will be redshirted.
I havent seen Newton that much but RM looks like he could be a good one as well.

WVRed
09-02-2008, 11:40 PM
As far as receivers, Brooks said Aaron Boyd has been cleared to play so they will evaluate him as far as how far along he is and what is best. Redshirt or not.

Also dont forget about the kid from Texas. I posted a video of him in post #8 of this thread. My guess is one of the Newton/Massakowski duo will be redshirted.
I havent seen Newton that much but RM looks like he could be a good one as well.

I haven't forgotten about Mossakowski. However, as you said, one of them will likely be redshirted. My guess is that it will be Mossakowski, since we will already have a similar, more seasoned QB in Hartline.

I won't go far enough to make this comparison, but Newton reminds me a lot of Vince Young with his size and speed. I don't know about arm strength or maturity, but they are in the same mold.

jmac
09-04-2008, 05:00 PM
I haven't forgotten about Mossakowski. However, as you said, one of them will likely be redshirted. My guess is that it will be Mossakowski, since we will already have a similar, more seasoned QB in Hartline.

I won't go far enough to make this comparison, but Newton reminds me a lot of Vince Young with his size and speed. I don't know about arm strength or maturity, but they are in the same mold.

I have only seen Newton the one time on ESPN the other day.
His arm strength is tremendous. In fact...was told the other day...Cobb compares more to Young only with much stronger arm. They said Newton is "not" a Vince Young type but more of a Jamarcus Russell.
So basically I think Newton/Mossakowski are both more of the NFL pro style QB.