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Red in Chicago
08-29-2008, 09:01 PM
San Francisco
D. Roberts lf .246
R. Winn rf .308
P. Sandoval 3b .372
B. Molina c .284
A. Rowand cf .280
T. Ishikawa 1b .206
E. Burriss ss .270
E. Velez 2b .219
B. Zito p .108

Cincinnati
C. Dickerson cf .304
J. Keppinger ss .268
B. Phillips 2b .263
J. Votto 1b .285
Encarnacion 3b .249
J. Bruce rf .252
J. Cabrera lf .276
P. Bako c .206
E. Volquez p .083

Red in Chicago
08-29-2008, 09:10 PM
grand slam for ee:beerme:

GAC
08-29-2008, 09:15 PM
Chat is open :beerme:

[you having problems logging into chat RIC?] :lol:

Red in Chicago
08-29-2008, 09:16 PM
Chat is open :beerme:

[you having problems logging into chat RIC?] :lol:

yeah, computer giving me some issues today...that or it's the alcohol kicking in :beerme:

RedsManRick
08-29-2008, 09:24 PM
Reds defense making Volquez look bad yet again. Worst defense in MLB.

GAC
08-29-2008, 09:24 PM
More poor defense costs Volquez. Geez

CTA513
08-29-2008, 09:24 PM
4-4 tie game

RedsManRick
08-29-2008, 09:26 PM
The entire "official scorer" business is just plain annoying. It's almost entirely political, meant to protect certain guys' stats rather than reflect the reality of what happened on a given play.

Red in Chicago
08-29-2008, 09:31 PM
wow, giants playing reds type of defense on that rundown:p:

CTA513
08-29-2008, 09:32 PM
More poor defense costs Volquez. Geez

No errors so Volquez gets the earned runs while the fielders don't get any errors.

GAC
08-29-2008, 09:32 PM
Poor base running and the Reds escape.

Where was Zito at to cover 3B? :lol:

Red in Chicago
08-29-2008, 09:34 PM
more bad news bears defense...zito bad :p:

GAC
08-29-2008, 09:34 PM
Looking at it again - it wasn't Zito's fault since he was running toward 1B. Looks like the catcher should have ran down the line to cover 3B.

Kc61
08-29-2008, 09:36 PM
Dickerson is striking out one in three at bats. That's not an acceptable level. Hope he makes some contact here.

GAC
08-29-2008, 09:36 PM
Darn it guys! Why don't you all come into chat so I don't have to bounce back and forth? I'm getting dizzy. :lol:

Red in Chicago
08-29-2008, 09:39 PM
Dickerson is striking out one in three at bats. That's not an acceptable level. Hope he makes some contact here.

got your wish:)

Red in Chicago
08-29-2008, 09:40 PM
gee, kepp couldn't wait to make that out...sigh...

Red in Chicago
08-29-2008, 09:40 PM
gonna be loaded for votto...

WVRedsFan
08-29-2008, 09:50 PM
Jay looks more human every day. <sigh>

RedFanAlways1966
08-29-2008, 09:53 PM
5 RBIs for Edwin... tied for most in a game this year. Done twice before tonight...

(1) Votto, Apr. 17 @ Cubs.
(2) Bako, June 9 @ Marlins.

Each time it has happened... Volquez was the REDS starter.

AmarilloRed
08-29-2008, 10:05 PM
Dickerson is striking out one in three at bats. That's not an acceptable level. Hope he makes some contact here.

Chris was always known for the strikeouts in Louisville. I don't think that will change much now that he's here in Cincinnati. Still, 1 in 3 is a bit much.

WVRedsFan
08-29-2008, 10:13 PM
Dickerson's homer makes it 10-4 Reds.

BTW, is this the wake or the funeral? It could be either. :)

CTA513
08-29-2008, 10:21 PM
Volquez is pulled after giving up his 5th run

AmarilloRed
08-29-2008, 10:24 PM
Affeldt in to pitch.

CTA513
08-29-2008, 10:27 PM
10-7 after Aurilia homers

Thats now 6 earned runs for Volquez

Kc61
08-29-2008, 10:29 PM
As announcers point out, terrible pitch by Affeldt to Aurilia. This could be another adventure. Coco hasn't pitched in awhile, hope he has something in the tank tonight because he's likely to get a chance.

Why am I still watching these games?

klw
08-29-2008, 10:32 PM
Dickerson's homer makes it 10-4 Reds.

BTW, is this the wake or the funeral? It could be either. :)

What is there left to say? I know my season of posts has become as weak as the Reds offense. Last year I found statistical research far more interesting. This year I just can't bring myself to do it. I remember being interested in lineup construction but this year any thoughts would have just been killed by the fact that CF leads off, SS is second, etc. Hopefully energy will come back.

klw
08-29-2008, 10:33 PM
I just saw Dickerson's HR over on Gameday. Does his swing always look that nice? Compact but smooth, lefty grace. Good pop

WVRedsFan
08-29-2008, 10:35 PM
Many would say that attempted steal was good baseball, but the pitcher wasn't throwing strikes and then Votto singles. It seems like a waste of an out.

klw
08-29-2008, 10:35 PM
Volquez's era up to 3.04. Is this the first time thie year it has gone over 3?

WVRedsFan
08-29-2008, 10:36 PM
What is there left to say? I know my season of posts has become as weak as the Reds offense. Last year I found statistical research far more interesting. This year I just can't bring myself to do it. I remember being interested in lineup construction but this year any thoughts would hav just been killed by the fact that CF leads off, SS is second, etc. Hopefully energy will come back.
Point well taken. This team is simply no fun to watch and discussion has pretty much dried up for now.

And it's a long time until Spring Training,

Kc61
08-29-2008, 10:36 PM
I just saw Dickerson's HR over on Gameday. Does his swing always look that nice? Compact but smooth, lefty grace. Good pop

Dickerson seems to wait on the ball quite well. He has good bat speed and swings at the last possible moment. Generates excellent power that way.

He's very productive so far when he makes contact.

But of all these young hitters, Votto is the one who impresses me most. He makes consistent good contact. Bruce overmatched right now.

OnBaseMachine
08-29-2008, 10:51 PM
Reds defense making Volquez look bad yet again. Worst defense in MLB.

What happened? I just got in and missed it.

AmarilloRed
08-29-2008, 10:58 PM
11-7 now.

WVRedsFan
08-29-2008, 11:09 PM
What happened? I just got in and missed it.Who won the game? :)

Volquez had trouble keeping SF off base (allowed 8 hits in 6 innings), but some shoddy defense by Phillips and Bruce led to 4 runs in the 4th after we had gone out in front by 4-0 on Edwin's grand slam. All of the 6 runs allowed by Edisonson were earned since no errors were given by the official scorer.

Both teams' defense has been less than desirable, though.

OnBaseMachine
08-29-2008, 11:14 PM
Who won the game? :)


Riverside got crushed. That's the last time I'll watch them play this year.

Official scorers suck. This is two straight starts Volquez has been screwed by the official scorer. You would think clueless official scorer would favor Volquez in this case.

HokieRed
08-29-2008, 11:30 PM
Cordero in to turn a sure win into an adventure.

Spring~Fields
08-29-2008, 11:53 PM
Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
San Francisco 0 0 0 4 0 3 0 0 0 7 13 2
Cincinnati 0 0 4 4 2 0 1 0 X 11 12 0




AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
C. Dickerson cf-lf 5 3 3 4 0 1 1 .328
J. Keppinger ss 5 1 1 0 0 0 3 .267
B. Phillips 2b 3 0 1 0 2 0 1 .263
J. Votto 1b 3 1 2 1 1 0 1 .288
E. Encarnacion 3b 4 1 2 5 1 1 2 .251
J. Bruce rf 5 0 1 0 0 1 4 .252
J. Cabrera lf 3 3 2 0 0 0 0 .295
D. Weathers p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
J. Valentin ph 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .252
F. Cordero p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P. Bako c 4 1 0 0 0 3 6 .203
E. Volquez p 2 1 0 0 0 2 2 .080
J. Affeldt p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
C. Patterson ph-cf 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .196
Totals 35 11 12 10 5 8 20


Scoring Summary
Bot 3rd: Cincinnati
- E. Encarnacion homered to deep left, J. Keppinger, J. Votto and C. Dickerson scored

Top 4th: San Francisco
- T. Ishikawa singled to shallow right, P. Sandoval scored, A. Rowand to third
- E. Burriss singled to second, A. Rowand scored, T. Ishikawa to second
- E. Velez tripled to deep right, T. Ishikawa and E. Burriss scored

Bot 4th: Cincinnati
- C. Dickerson doubled to deep left, P. Bako and J. Cabrera scored, E. Volquez to third
- J. Votto hit by pitch, E. Volquez scored, C. Dickerson to third, B. Phillips to second
- E. Encarnacion walked, C. Dickerson scored, B. Phillips to third, J. Votto to second

Bot 5th: Cincinnati
- C. Dickerson homered to deep right, J. Cabrera scored

Top 6th: San Francisco
- E. Velez doubled to deep left, E. Burriss scored
- R. Aurilia homered to deep center, E. Velez scored

Bot 7th: Cincinnati
- P. Bako safe at first on pitcher O. Matos' throwing error, J. Cabrera to third, J. Cabrera scored

Batting Cincinnati
2B - B Phillips (23, B Zito); J Cabrera 2 (6, B Zito, O Matos); C Dickerson (7, B Zito).

HR - E Encarnacion (23, 3rd inning off B Zito 3 on, 2 Out), C Dickerson (4, 5th inning off B Sadler 1 on, 2 Out).

S - P Bako , E Volquez.

RBI - E Encarnacion 5 (54), C Dickerson 4 (10), J Votto (60).

2-out RBI - E Encarnacion 4, C Dickerson 2.

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - P Bako 3, J Keppinger 1, J Votto 1.

GIDP - J Bruce.

Team LOB - 9.

Base Running
SB - C Dickerson (4, 3rd base off B Zito/B Molina).

CS - B Phillips (9, 2nd base by O Matos/B Molina).

Fielding
DP - 2 (B Phillips-J Keppinger-J Votto, J Keppinger-B Phillips-J Votto).


Batting San Francisco
2B - E Velez (10, E Volquez).

3B - E Velez (5, E Volquez).

HR - R Aurilia (9, 6th inning off J Affeldt 1 on, 2 Out).

RBI - T Ishikawa (7), E Burriss (14), E Velez 3 (16), R Aurilia 2 (43).

2-out RBI - R Aurilia 2.

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - D Roberts 1, F Lewis 1.

GIDP - R Winn, E Velez.

Team LOB - 5.

Fielding
E - B Zito (1, throw); O Matos (1, throw).

DP - 1 (E Burriss-E Velez-T Ishikawa).

Pitching


B. Zito 3.1 7 8 7 2 2 1 5.62 (L, 8-16)
B. Sadler 1.2 1 2 2 1 2 1 4.66
O. Matos 1.0 2 1 0 1 1 0 3.77
A. Hinshaw 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3.86
T. Walker 1.0 2 0 0 1 2 0 4.53


E. Volquez 5.1 8 6 6 3 6 0 3.04 (W, 16-5)
J. Affeldt 1.2 1 1 1 0 2 1 3.39
D. Weathers 1.0 2 0 0 0 0 0 3.34
F. Cordero 1.0 2 0 0 0 0 0 3.70


IBB - B Phillips (by B Zito).

HBP - J Votto (by B Zito); J Cabrera (by B Sadler).

Pitches-strikes - B Zito 80-51; B Sadler 30-18; O Matos 22-13; A Hinshaw 7-5; T Walker 22-14; E Volquez 110-73; J Affeldt 21-14; D Weathers 14-10; F Cordero 15-11.

Ground balls-fly balls - B Zito 4-6; B Sadler 2-1; O Matos 1-1; A Hinshaw 1-1; T Walker 1-0; E Volquez 4-6; J Affeldt 2-1; D Weathers 2-1; F Cordero 2-1.

Batters faced - B Zito 22; B Sadler 7; O Matos 6; A Hinshaw 3; T Walker 6; E Volquez 26; J Affeldt 6; D Weathers 4; F Cordero 4.

Time: 3:20.
Attendance: 25,445

OnBaseMachine
08-30-2008, 12:20 AM
Volquez's ERA is now up to 3.04. It should be in the 2.75ish area if not for some incompetent official scoring in Volquez's last two starts. Seriously, I wish MLB would take care of that stuff instead of letting clueless homers make those decisions.

Ron Madden
08-30-2008, 06:29 AM
Dickerson is striking out one in three at bats. That's not an acceptable level. Hope he makes some contact here.

Hi Marty :wave:

What about his 12 XBH's?

OnBaseMachine
08-30-2008, 12:14 PM
Hi Marty :wave:

What about his 12 XBH's?

No kidding. Dude is OPSing 1.078. I think it's acceptable.