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bellhead
09-01-2008, 05:30 PM
Next year Chat could be a very good team.

1. Yonder Alonso, 1b
2. Todd Frazier, 3b or lf
3. Neftali Soto, 3b or lf
4. Chris Valaika, 2b
5. Juan Francisco RF?

This is a pretty good start for an everyday team in the minors.

All of these guys will either start @ AA or A+. I think having Soto and Alonso together is a good idea as they may be teammates for a long time here in the Nati. If they turn out as good as advertised they could man the corners for 10 years. Frazier and Soto could flip/flop I donít know who is the better defensive 3d or lfer as the Reds will be forced to figure this out soon. Francisco and Valaika are not bad prospects either with Francisco likely starting at AA with Valaika maybe going to AA.

The others

Devin Mesoraco, 20, C, A
Zach Cozart, 22, SS, A
Brandon Waring, 22, 3B, A

I donít know as much about these guys as needed to make an informed opinion but each may and should be bumped one level next year.

The future is looking good with these guys only 2 to 3 years out from the big club when you add in Votto, Bruce, Philips, and hope Stubbs continues to come on and we could be a very good team in 5 years.

OnBaseMachine
09-01-2008, 05:41 PM
Soto and Mesoraco will probably start in Sarasota and Valaika probably in Louisville.

Grande Donkey
09-01-2008, 06:00 PM
...if the Reds stay in Chat

redsfan10
09-01-2008, 06:02 PM
...if the Reds stay in Chat

Where else?

bellhead
09-01-2008, 06:16 PM
Yea I figured they would be spread among A+ and AA but if Soto plays the same next year as this then he only will play 1/2 in A+. Also Yonder might start in A+ also.

I think Soto and Yonder could be the foundation at the corners for the next 10 years for the Reds.

RED VAN HOT
09-01-2008, 06:23 PM
Anyone think Alex Buchholz can skip a level and go to Sarasota?

gedred69
09-01-2008, 09:33 PM
Anyone think Alex Buchholz can skip a level and go to Sarasota?

Dorn did it, likewise, Buchholz seems to be a step above the competition he is currently facing, a man among not quite men? Let's see how he does in the playoffs. Gotta' keep a challenge to these young guys that rise above the competition.

JaxRed
09-01-2008, 11:44 PM
Where else?

The Lookouts Player Development Contract with the Reds expires today. The Reds have tried to extend it, but the Lookouts don't want to. At least without seeing what else is out there.

So.... the Reds will go to Carolina Mudcats, Conecticut Defenders (rumored to be going to Richmond), Jacksonville Suns, Huntsville Stars, Trenton, San Antonio or West Tennesee.

Everyone seems to think Trenton will extend with Yankees (makes too much sense to split it up). Jacksonville is rumored to be hooking up with the Marlins.

So, in order of likelihood I think

Carolina
West Tennesee
Huntsville
Richmond
San Antonio
Jacksonville
Trenton

At least Mudcats have a cool logo.

camisadelgolf
09-02-2008, 02:46 AM
Here's how I see the Chattanooga roster:

Starting lineup:
CF Chris Heisey (he deserves to play every day, and I think Dorn, Stubbs, and Cumberland will be the starters in Louisville)
2B Justin Turner (I think Richar will play every day in Louisville)
1B Logan Parker (he's older than Yonder Alonso and more prepared for AA)
LF Todd Frazier (he has to play somewhere)
3B Juan Francisco (there's not much he can learn in the FSL)
SS Chris Valaika (maybe he gets bumped to Louisville, but what about Paul Janish?)
RF Carson Kainer (the Reds' outfield depth is a little lacking in the mid-minors)
C Eddy Rodriguez (the Reds' catching depth is really lacking in the mid-minors)

Bench:
C Chris Denove (see Eddy Rodriguez)
1B Mike McKennon (I like him more than Jason Louwsma, but the Reds seem to like Louwsma more; it's a toss-up)
IF Jose Castro (versatile)
OF B.J. Szymanski (toolsy; might miraculously put it all together)
UT Justin Tordi (epitome of a utility player)

Rotation:
Jordan Smith (gets another chance in AA)
Travis Wood (also gets another chance in AA)
Alex Smit (has pitched a million years in A-ball and below with reasonable success)
Scott Carroll (more deserving a promotion than other options)
Travis Webb (or maybe he goes back to Sarasota with Pedro Viola being the starter, which could bump Zach Stewart to Chattanooga)

Bullpen:
Sean Watson (needs a little more development and is blocked by bullpen depth)
Ramon Geronimo (where he belongs)
Derrik Lutz (needs to stay and develop)
Terrell Young (been in the organization a while and has done well in Sarasota)
Phil Valiquette (been in the organization a while and has done fairly well in Sarasota)
Lee Tabor (needs to stay and develop)
Pedro Viola (could be a starter to get him more innings for developing, especially if Webb needs more time to recover from Tommy John surgery)

redhawk61
09-02-2008, 07:25 AM
Valaika will be in AAA, and Stewart will be in the bullpen

camisadelgolf
09-02-2008, 07:42 AM
Valaika will be in AAA, and Stewart will be in the bullpen

I think both of those are inevitable, but I'm not so sure that both are guaranteed for opening day. Stewart needs to cut down on his walks (he has a 1.62 WHIP in a pitcher's league), and although Valaika has been pretty good, he hasn't been anywhere near dominant.

carmack42
09-02-2008, 10:13 AM
Please let the Reds have a Southern League team. I'm already farther away from the Reds than ever (Huntsville, AL). If I can't at least see their minor leaguers, I'll go crazy.

I'd downrate Huntsville's chance of getting the Reds' team. Watching the Huntsville Stars this season, I think the Brewers would be nuts to not resign with that franchise. They have a really strong booster club, good attendance, and their GM is the good kind of crazy (this year they added cheap beer nights, next year a dance party deck). Of course, if the Reds swept in and took the franchise, that'd be alright too.

JaxRed
09-02-2008, 10:32 AM
Actually, I read one article that said Brewers wanted out because stadium was worst in Southern league......

So you stand a better chance of getting them than I do here in Jax.

carmack42
09-02-2008, 12:24 PM
Actually, I read one article that said Brewers wanted out because stadium was worst in Southern league......

So you stand a better chance of getting them than I do here in Jax.

Yeah, I guess it is kind of a dump, but I don't need a whole lot. I basically just need a place to sit that's relatively close to the dugout. And in more recent seasons, a direct route to the john. So, the park meets my requirements.

I have no idea what the clubhouse is like, (Is it called a clubhouse in AA or just a locker room?) but I imagine it's not much better.

AmarilloRed
09-02-2008, 01:13 PM
Here's how I see the Chattanooga roster:

Starting lineup:
CF Chris Heisey (he deserves to play every day, and I think Dorn, Stubbs, and Cumberland will be the starters in Louisville)
2B Justin Turner (I think Richar will play every day in Louisville)
1B Logan Parker (he's older than Yonder Alonso and more prepared for AA)
LF Todd Frazier (he has to play somewhere)
3B Juan Francisco (there's not much he can learn in the FSL)
SS Chris Valaika (maybe he gets bumped to Louisville, but what about Paul Janish?)
RF Carson Kainer (the Reds' outfield depth is a little lacking in the mid-minors)
C Eddy Rodriguez (the Reds' catching depth is really lacking in the mid-minors)

You didn't mention Sean Henry on either the Chatt bench or starting lineup, or starting in the Louisville outfield. Where do you have him- the Louisville bench?

camisadelgolf
09-02-2008, 01:16 PM
You didn't mention Sean Henry on either the Chatt bench or starting lineup, or starting in the Louisville outfield. Where do you have him- the Louisville bench?

Yeah, I would have him at Louisville. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the first three I mentioned with the Reds, which would make room for him.