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OnBaseMachine
09-09-2008, 07:51 PM
Reds Righthander Fails Test For PEDs

Posted Sep. 9, 2008 5:06 pm by Matt Eddy
Filed under: Suspensions

Reds righthander Scott Carroll, a third-round pick from Missouri State in 2007, tested positive for human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG), a performance-enhancing substance, and received a 50-game suspension that will take effect at the start of the 2009 season.

Carroll, 23, finished the season with high Class A Sarasota, where he went 6-5, 3.51 in 14 games (12 starts). He struck out 58, walked 21 and surrendered two home runs in 82 innings in the Florida State League. Carroll opened the year with low Class A Dayton, for whom he went 1-2, 3.75 in nine starts, with 24-16 K-BB in 48 innings.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/

dougdirt
09-09-2008, 07:53 PM
Well thats disappointing.

OnBaseMachine
09-09-2008, 07:53 PM
It's amazing that players continue to do this stuff when they know they are most likely going to get caught.

Mario-Rijo
09-09-2008, 08:00 PM
Well thats disappointing.

Very disappointing. :confused:

Will M
09-09-2008, 10:19 PM
Perhaps he wasn't using performance enhancing drugs. He may just be pregnant.

RedEye
09-09-2008, 10:48 PM
Perhaps he wasn't using performance enhancing drugs. He may just be pregnant.

:D Reminds me of that one episode of GREY'S ANATOMY. Oh yeah, and of course, JUNIOR (the Schwarzenegger movie, not the erstwhile Reds OF).

mumike
09-10-2008, 10:12 AM
Guys, I'm his brother and I assure you he didn't do anything wrong. He had independent blood work done by the Reds and by his doctor and neither contained HCG. The organization is fully behind him and they're working to try and find a way to appeal it. He is so shook up about this, I feel terrible for him because he's such a great kid.

Do you know you have to inject this specific drug? It can't be ingested orally because apparently the liver rejects it. So, ever the Reds doctor isn't sure what's going on. None of it make sense. The doctors said this particular compound shows up naturally in people that have testicular cancer, so he is going to be tested for that. There is a history in the family of it occurring.

So, I know it's easy to look at this and say what you want, but I assure you my brother is not a cheater and did absolutely nothing wrong.

lollipopcurve
09-10-2008, 10:39 AM
Guys, I'm his brother and I assure you he didn't do anything wrong. He had independent blood work done by the Reds and by his doctor and neither contained HCG. The organization is fully behind him and they're working to try and find a way to appeal it. He is so shook up about this, I feel terrible for him because he's such a great kid.

Do you know you have to inject this specific drug? It can't be ingested orally because apparently the liver rejects it. So, ever the Reds doctor isn't sure what's going on. None of it make sense. The doctors said this particular compound shows up naturally in people that have testicular cancer, so he is going to be tested for that. There is a history in the family of it occurring.

So, I know it's easy to look at this and say what you want, but I assure you my brother is not a cheater and did absolutely nothing wrong.

Thanks a lot for posting that. Good luck to Scott and the whole family -- must be a difficult time for you guys.

bellhead
09-10-2008, 10:50 AM
hopefully it was just a bad test and he doesn't have testicular either... Let's pray for the cancer part, baseball is only going to be the first half of his life his kids are there for his whole like.

BRM
09-10-2008, 11:00 AM
Guys, I'm his brother and I assure you he didn't do anything wrong. He had independent blood work done by the Reds and by his doctor and neither contained HCG. The organization is fully behind him and they're working to try and find a way to appeal it. He is so shook up about this, I feel terrible for him because he's such a great kid.

Do you know you have to inject this specific drug? It can't be ingested orally because apparently the liver rejects it. So, ever the Reds doctor isn't sure what's going on. None of it make sense. The doctors said this particular compound shows up naturally in people that have testicular cancer, so he is going to be tested for that. There is a history in the family of it occurring.

So, I know it's easy to look at this and say what you want, but I assure you my brother is not a cheater and did absolutely nothing wrong.

Thanks for the post. I hope it works out in the end and Scott proves his innocence. I especially hope the cancer test comes back negative.

RedEye
09-10-2008, 11:03 AM
Guys, I'm his brother and I assure you he didn't do anything wrong. He had independent blood work done by the Reds and by his doctor and neither contained HCG. The organization is fully behind him and they're working to try and find a way to appeal it. He is so shook up about this, I feel terrible for him because he's such a great kid.

Do you know you have to inject this specific drug? It can't be ingested orally because apparently the liver rejects it. So, ever the Reds doctor isn't sure what's going on. None of it make sense. The doctors said this particular compound shows up naturally in people that have testicular cancer, so he is going to be tested for that. There is a history in the family of it occurring.

So, I know it's easy to look at this and say what you want, but I assure you my brother is not a cheater and did absolutely nothing wrong.

My apologies for making light of the situation. I hope everything turns out okay.

mumike
09-10-2008, 11:56 AM
My apologies for making light of the situation. I hope everything turns out okay.

No need to apologize, I certainly didn't mean it to sound that way. I know how it must look like and I don't fault people for thinking it. He's just so embarrassed and feels so frustrated, knowing that he didn't do anything wrong.

From what we can gather from his agent, 63 players were suspended and 55 or so of them related to this HCG substance. Surely that's not normal.

Anyway, I'll try and keep you updated. Hopefully it all gets worked out. If not, Scotty faces an uphill battle. 50 games, when you're trying to make a name for yourself, will surely be a setback.

OnBaseMachine
09-10-2008, 12:09 PM
Guys, I'm his brother and I assure you he didn't do anything wrong. He had independent blood work done by the Reds and by his doctor and neither contained HCG. The organization is fully behind him and they're working to try and find a way to appeal it. He is so shook up about this, I feel terrible for him because he's such a great kid.

Do you know you have to inject this specific drug? It can't be ingested orally because apparently the liver rejects it. So, ever the Reds doctor isn't sure what's going on. None of it make sense. The doctors said this particular compound shows up naturally in people that have testicular cancer, so he is going to be tested for that. There is a history in the family of it occurring.

So, I know it's easy to look at this and say what you want, but I assure you my brother is not a cheater and did absolutely nothing wrong.

Thanks for the post. I knew that Carroll's brother posted on here but I couldn't remember what username you went by. I really hope the cancer test comes back negative. Please keep us updated if you hear anything. :)

RedsManRick
09-10-2008, 12:13 PM
Thanks for the update, Mike. Let's hope cancer is not the explanation and that, in any event, Scott gets cleared.

BillDoran
09-10-2008, 01:06 PM
It's amazing that players continue to do this stuff when they know they are most likely going to get caught.

How do we know PED abuse isn't more widespread, with positive tests being a rarity due advancements in cloaking detection?

I'd imagine this to be a closer embodiment of the current environment, rather than predominately clean players with the occasional rogue user.

With that said, I hope what Scott's brother said proves to be true and he's quickly exonerated.

JaxRed
09-10-2008, 02:18 PM
And you know what else.......? Kudo's to the big brother for defending his kid brother!!

reds44
09-10-2008, 02:31 PM
Perhaps he wasn't using performance enhancing drugs. He may just be pregnant.
I literally just lol'd...in my college computer lab. Thanks for making me look like an idiot.