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OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 07:57 PM
Chris Dickerson lf
Jerry Hairston Jr. 2b
Joey Votto 1b
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Jay Bruce rf
Jeff Keppinger ss
Corey Patterson cf
Paul Bako c
Bronson Arroyo p
v. Branden Looper

Tony Cloninger
09-16-2008, 08:11 PM
The Cards are not in any race.....so Dusty .....can you please ask for more veterans to be signed so we can continue to complain and whine about you?

Chip R
09-16-2008, 08:12 PM
Skippy starts off with a single and FeLo flies out

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 08:13 PM
Pujols pops out. Ludwick flies out.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 08:19 PM
Dickerson and Hairston flied out to CF and Votto hit a rocket but right at Ludwick for the third out.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 08:22 PM
Glaus homers to make it 1-0.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 08:38 PM
I still don't know why the pitcher in the 8 hole still irks me, but it does...it's not like LaRussa has Corey Patterson at his disposal....

:p:

CTA513
09-16-2008, 08:45 PM
Looper with a perfect game after 3 innings.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 08:47 PM
How ironic it would be...

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:05 PM
Dickerson leads off with a single to left.

Hairston sacs him to 2nd.

Votto lines out for the 2nd time, this one to Pujols.

EE pops out on the first pitch. 1-0 Cards after 4.

WVRedsFan
09-16-2008, 09:06 PM
nm

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:10 PM
Looper, Izturis, and Schumaker go down in order in the top of the 5th.

BTW, Skip freaking Schumaker is OPSing .879 against RHP this season. Just more evidence of the ridiculous lightning in a bottle so many Cards have caught this year.

Still 1-0 Cards with Bruce, Kepp, and Patterson due up.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:17 PM
Still 1-0 Cards with Bruce, Kepp, and Patterson due up.

All three ground out, but at least Kepp's was sharply hit.

1-0 Redbirds after 5.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:25 PM
Felipe Lopez grounds out on a hard hit ball back to Bronson.

Arroyo gets Pujols to K swinging on a fastball off the plate inside.

Ludwick strikes out swinging on a slider. 3 out, still 1-0 Redbirds in the middle of 6.

mbgrayson
09-16-2008, 09:25 PM
After 5 and a half, Reds 0, Cards 1

Arroyo again looks good. Another 'quality start', and he has thrown 93 pitches through 6 innings.

We need some offense......

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 09:28 PM
Duke Energy has not restored the Reds power yet...

WVRedsFan
09-16-2008, 09:29 PM
How pitiful is your offense when you have 2 hits through 5.1 innings and one of the hits is by the pitcher? We are so daggone impatient at the plate. Wow.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:32 PM
Speaking of offense, Arroyo grounds a 1 out single into left.

Dickerson hits into a force at 2nd.

Hairston singles into RF. Runners now on the corners with 2 out.

Votto digs in.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:34 PM
After stinging the ball his first two times up, Votto gets pitched around.

Bases loaded for EE with 2 out.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 09:36 PM
Edwin!!

reds44
09-16-2008, 09:36 PM
Edwin!!
What happend?

WVRedsFan
09-16-2008, 09:37 PM
Edwin's patience pays off. 3-run double! 3-1 Reds

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 09:37 PM
3 run double

reds44
09-16-2008, 09:37 PM
Edwin's patience pays off. 3-run double! 3-1 Reds
Sweet.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:37 PM
First two called strikes on EE were off the plate according to Gameday.

Yet, EE plates 3 with a double into left! 3-1 Redlegs now.

WVRedsFan
09-16-2008, 09:39 PM
Bruce K's looking to end the inning.

3-1 Reds after 6.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:42 PM
Bruce K's looking to end the inning.


Of course, nobody likes strikeouts, but I'm rather encouraged that Bruce seems to have stopped goin' up there a-hackin', and seems to be taking the borderline pitches that he probably couldn't do much with anyway... not to mention the pitches 10 inches off the plate most couldn't hit with an oar.

PuffyPig
09-16-2008, 09:43 PM
How pitiful is your offense when you have 2 hits through 5.1 innings and one of the hits is by the pitcher? We are so daggone impatient at the plate. Wow.

I think you made them mad.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 09:46 PM
Aaron Miles homers to make it 3-2 but Arroyo gets the next two hitters out. 3-2 Reds after 6 1/2. That should be it for Bronson as he's over 100 pitches. Another excellent start by Bronson.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:48 PM
Glaus flies out to center.

Aaron Miles homers somehow (his 4th of the year) to right. 3-2 Reds.

LaRue flies out to RF.

Looper grounds out to 3rd.

3-2 Reds in the middle of 7.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 09:50 PM
I hope Dusty doesn't send Arroyo back out there for another inning. He's already at 107 pitches and in his last two starts Dusty has sent him out for another inning and each time they scored.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:51 PM
I hope Dusty doesn't send Arroyo back out there for another inning. He's already at 107 pitches and in his last two starts Dusty has sent him out for another inning and each time they scored.

I'd be surprised if he doesn't send him back out.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 09:52 PM
I'd be surprised if he doesn't send him back out.

Let's hope his spot comes up this inning and it will unless Bako grounds into a doubleplay.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 09:54 PM
Bako singles. First and third with only one out for Danny Richar.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:54 PM
Let's hope his spot comes up this inning and it will unless Bako grounds into a doubleplay.

Who on the bench would you rather have hitting than Bronson?

:evil:

WVRedsFan
09-16-2008, 09:55 PM
I think you made them mad.If so, I'll do it again!

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 09:56 PM
Who on the bench would you rather have hitting than Bronson?

:evil:

Micah Owings. :D

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 09:57 PM
Richar grounds into a fielders choice but Patterson scores to make it 4-2 Reds.

WVRedsFan
09-16-2008, 09:57 PM
4-2 on Richar's FC out.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 09:58 PM
Micah Owings. :D

OBM 1, Screwball 0.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 09:58 PM
Bako should have been safe at second base but they granted the Cardinals the phantom tag. Dickerson HBP brings up Hairston.

oneupper
09-16-2008, 09:59 PM
Cards complaining about the call at first. Reds should complain about the call at second. Miles caught the ball at least five feet off the bag.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:00 PM
I'm glad to see the Reds offense is finally figuring out Josh Fogg, err I mean Braden Looper.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:04 PM
Hairston works the count to 3-2, fouls off three pitches, and finally bounces out to third base. 4-2 Reds after seven innings. In comes Weathers. Oh boy.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 10:04 PM
Gameday has the first called strike on Hairston almost in the LH batter's box.

Hairston ends up grounding out to 3rd. Woulda been real interesting if he could've gotten on and loaded the sacks for the hot-hitting Joey Votto.

Still, though, 4-2 Reds after 7.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:06 PM
Gameday has the first called strike on Hairston almost in the LH batter's box.

Hairston ends up grounding out to 3rd. Woulda been real interesting if he could've gotten on and loaded the bases for the hot hitting Joey Votto.

Still, though, 4-2 Reds after 7.

The ump gave Looper a huge strikezone tonight. There were some terrible strike calls on EdE before he doubled, and also some borderline strike calls on Bruce.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 10:09 PM
The ump gave Looper a huge strikezone tonight. There were some terrible strike calls on EdE before he doubled, and also some borderline strike calls on Bruce.

Makes sense. St. Louis is still in the hunt for the WC, Reds are about 95 GB. IMO, Frank Thomas couldn't have been more right about the size of the strike zone for teams in and out of the playoff race.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:09 PM
Izturis singles but Skippy grounds into a doubleplay. Nice play by Hairston.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 10:09 PM
Nice play by Hairston!

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:09 PM
Makes sense. St. Louis is still in the race for the WC, Reds are about 95 GB. IMO, Frank Thomas couldn't have been more right about the size of the strike zone for teams in and out of the playoff race.

Agreed. As I type this Weathers gets squeezed on a 1-1 pitch to Lopez.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:10 PM
Lopez K's. Nice inning by Weathers.

4-2 Reds after 7 1/2.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 10:11 PM
Arroyo: 7 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 2 HR, 4.57 ERA

This is why some of the more scrupulous posters have pointed to his FIP when it looked like the sky was falling with Bronson earlier this season.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:14 PM
Bronson Arroyo has been one of the best pitchers in all of baseball since the first of July. I bet teams like the Phillies and Mets are kicking themselves right now for not trading for Arroyo.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:16 PM
Votto grounds out. EdE walks and Bruce lines a single to center. First and second one out for Kepp.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 10:17 PM
Votto grounds out to 1st.

EE walks.

Bruce lines a single into CF.

Kepp up with 2 on and 1 down.

OBM 2, Screwball 0.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:18 PM
Keppinger infield single loads the bases for Patterson. Still only one out.

Strikes Out Looking
09-16-2008, 10:19 PM
Bronson Arroyo has been one of the best pitchers in all of baseball since the first of July. I bet teams like the Phillies and Mets are kicking themselves right now for not trading for Arroyo.

Good, I for one like him as both a pitcher and his personality (and since I don't live in Cincy, I'm not forced to see his commercials).

oneupper
09-16-2008, 10:19 PM
Can we have someone hit for CP, please?

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:19 PM
The Cards are bringing in a lefty to face Patterson. I'd consider pinch hitting with Micah Owings here.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 10:20 PM
Good, I for one like him as both a pitcher and his personality (and since I don't live in Cincy, I'm not forced to see his commercials).

Believe it or not, the new ones are actually worse than the old ones.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 10:21 PM
Patterson drives in 2.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:21 PM
The Cards are bringing in a lefty to face Patterson. I'd consider pinch hitting with Micah Owings here.

Nevermind! Patterson doubles to right to make it 6-2!

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:21 PM
Jolbert Cabrera pinch hitting for Bako.

oneupper
09-16-2008, 10:22 PM
The Cards are bringing in a lefty to face Patterson. I'd consider pinch hitting with Micah Owings here.

Dusty doesn't care what you or I think. CPatt Doubles. Dusty's IQ rises!

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:22 PM
They intentionally walk Cabrera to load the bases for the pitchers spot. Now I'd pinch hit with either Owings or Rosales.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 10:23 PM
...Or Javy, right handed.


Must be a bunch of "no's" on Dusty's bench, tonight...

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:23 PM
Valentin? Why? He can't hit lefties.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 10:24 PM
CPatt Doubles.

Why in the world would you ever throw a 1st pitch strike to Patterson, much less one right down the middle?!?!

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:26 PM
Valentin walks. 7-2 Reds.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:28 PM
Dickerson bounces to Pujols who throws home to get the runner. Still 7-2 with the bases loaded and two outs for Hairston.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:29 PM
Another pitching change.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 10:29 PM
Tony ball

Screwball
09-16-2008, 10:30 PM
Don't look now, but the Reds' offense has scored in every inning since WVRF dubbed them "pitiful". I think we all now know the morale of the story. :p:

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 10:31 PM
Duke must have gotten their power back!

Strikes Out Looking
09-16-2008, 10:31 PM
Dickerson bounces to Pujols who throws home to get the runner. Still 7-2 with the bases loaded and two outs for Hairston.

Every throw by Pujols is one step closer to the surgeon's table, so Dickerson did accomplish something.

Kc61
09-16-2008, 10:31 PM
Don't look now, but the Reds' offense has scored in every inning since WVRF dubbed them "pitiful". I think we all now know the morale of the story. :p:

Glad for the runs, but it's the pitching. The Reds have pitched outstanding lately. When you do that, and do it consistently, eventually you will score some runs and win.

Back to the game.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 10:32 PM
Hairston K's, flips his bat, and now is arguing.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:33 PM
This ump is awful. Hairston gets called out on a 1-2 pitch at his ankles. Pathetic.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 10:33 PM
Glad for the runs, but it's the pitching. The Reds have pitched outstanding lately. When you do that, and do it consistently, eventually you will score some runs and win.

Back to the game.

True.

But really, I'm just having some fun with the young tyke. :)

Kc61
09-16-2008, 10:34 PM
Hairston K's, flips his bat, and now is arguing.

I thought Hairston might have been tossed.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 10:35 PM
I thought Hairston might have been tossed.

So did I...he'll be fined for the bat flip, probably.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 10:35 PM
Coco in

Screwball
09-16-2008, 10:35 PM
FWIW, Gameday has the called 3rd strike on Hairston on the inside corner at the hollow of the knees.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:35 PM
Cordero in to pitch? Why. This is where Dusty doesn't think ahead. This would have been a perfect situation for Josh Roenicke.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:36 PM
Pujols lines out to Patterson for the first out.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 10:37 PM
Arroyo has a chance to lead this club in wins by the end of the season...depends on how he and Volquez do down the stretch.

Kc61
09-16-2008, 10:37 PM
So did I...he'll be fined for the bat flip, probably.

Don't know if he'll be around next year, but I like Hairston. He's played great, he's a real competitor. Would like to see hiim on the club next year in some role.

Nice catch by Patterson. He hasn't hit, but this guy is really terrific in centerfield.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:38 PM
Cordero's last 11 appearances coming into tonight: 11 IP, 8 H, 0 R, 5 BB/12 K, 0.00 ERA

Screwball
09-16-2008, 10:38 PM
Pujols tonight: 0-4 with 0 BBs. One of the few games you'll see Pujols absent on the basepaths against any team, much less against the Reds.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 10:39 PM
I like Hairston when he plays. Unfortunately, he spends a lot of the time on the DL.

Can't count on him to be an everyday player, but he can certainly do some things with this club.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:39 PM
Ludwick flies out and Glaus grounds out. A 1-2-3 9th inning for Cordero. Make that 12 consecutive shutout innings for Cordero.

Kc61
09-16-2008, 10:39 PM
I like Hairston when he plays. Unfortunately, he spends a lot of the time on the DL.

Can't count on him to be an everyday player, but he can certainly do some things with this club.

Agree. Reds win.

Screwball
09-16-2008, 10:42 PM
I like Hairston when he plays. Unfortunately, he spends a lot of the time on the DL.

Can't count on him to be an everyday player, but he can certainly do some things with this club.

I like Hairston too, but keep in mind he's never had a year where he's come close to this much success. His OPS+ of 121 this year is head and shoulders above his second best season of 105 (in 2003 in Baltimore). I'm not so sure we can expect to see the same production he's provided this season again next season - even if he is healthy.

Having said all that, I certainly wouldn't be opposed to bringing him back. I just hope IF things go sour with him, Dusty doesn't go all Corey Patterson with him as well.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2008, 10:42 PM
True there too.

They have a tough decision to make.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2008, 10:48 PM
Corey Patterson seems like a great guy. I'd love to see him put it together offensively. If he could ever get back to his 2003-2004 and 2006 form he would be one of the better center fielders in the game. His defense is that good.

PuffyPig
09-16-2008, 11:06 PM
THe Reds have given serious setbacks to the Brewers, Diamondbacks and, now, the Cards chances.

Better than nothing.

WVRedsFan
09-16-2008, 11:48 PM
And you can bet I'll call this offense pitiful every game until the end of the season if this is the result :).

BRM
09-17-2008, 10:30 AM
Corey Patterson seems like a great guy. I'd love to see him put it together offensively. If he could ever get back to his 2003-2004 and 2006 form he would be one of the better center fielders in the game. His defense is that good.

:yikes:

OBM giving CPatt props caused me to fall out of my chair.