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Red in Chicago
09-19-2008, 05:48 PM
We're down to 10 games left folks...spring and summer sure went fast...

REDS
Jerry Hairston Jr. ss
Wilkin Castillo 2b
Joey Votto 1b
Jolbert Cabrera lf
Jay Bruce rf
Adam Rosales 3b
Corey Patterson cf
Ryan Hanigan c
Ramon Ramirez p

Brewers
Mike Cameron cf
Ray Durham 2b
Ryan Braun lf
Prince Fielder 1b
JJ Hardy ss
Corey Hart rf
Craig Counsell 3b
Jason Kendall c
Jeff Suppan p

lollipopcurve
09-19-2008, 07:13 PM
nice first from Ramirez, 1st pitch strikes to all 3 hitters, and another excellent throw from Hanigan for a CS

dougdirt
09-19-2008, 07:19 PM
Votto with a 3 run HR.

RedsManRick
09-19-2008, 07:24 PM
Bruce doesn't let Votto stay alone at 20 long. 5-0.

MrCinatit
09-19-2008, 07:24 PM
Super sweet! Bruce gets number 20

Homer's Ghost
09-19-2008, 07:27 PM
Votto and Bruce...not bad.

WVRedsFan
09-19-2008, 07:29 PM
Rosales and Patterson make the first two outs and Hanigan pops out to end the inning.

5-0 Reds through 1.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 07:30 PM
Awesome first inning. Bruce and Votto are gonna be a dynamic 3/4 punch for a long time.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 07:34 PM
What was Cabrera doing, playing on the warning track? That looked like a routine flyout off the bat.

CTA513
09-19-2008, 07:41 PM
Maybe Ramirez can pick up a win tonight?
The bullpen blew his other two starts in which he was leading.

lollipopcurve
09-19-2008, 07:41 PM
With Alonso in the house, Votto shows him how it's done.

RedsManRick
09-19-2008, 07:44 PM
The announcers talking about the cost of a pitching win is driving me nuts. Is it really that hard to join the 21st freaking century. I would pay (even more) to listen to announcers who actually had particular skill in either calling or analyzing a baseball game... particularly analyzing. And no, I don't mean something like John Kruk and Steve Phillips...

Falls City Beer
09-19-2008, 07:44 PM
Bruce is going to be great. Obvious.

dougdirt
09-19-2008, 07:46 PM
The announcers talking about the cost of a pitching win is driving me nuts. Is it really that hard to join the 21st freaking century. I would pay (even more) to listen to announcers who actually had particular skill in either calling or analyzing a baseball game... particularly analyzing. And no, I don't mean something like John Kruk and Steve Phillips...

Thats the one thing not having power has really killed me with.... Usually I watch the games but listen to nothing. I couldn't take it so I just started watching the games and not listening. I am still without power and have had to listen to the games all week. Sometimes it makes my head hurt. Brantley and Kelch haven't said much to bother me tonight though.

dougdirt
09-19-2008, 07:48 PM
Brewers going to the bullpen early. Weeks in to PH for the pitcher.

gm
09-19-2008, 07:57 PM
I couldn't take it so I just started watching the games and not listening. I am still without power and have had to listen to the games all week.

I've also enjoyed watching the game but listening to something other than the paid announcers (and the inane commercials) during this season. (I'll put on a podcast or some music, instead) As a result, I have absolutely nothing to complain about re: the Red's TV commentary

less is more

lollipopcurve
09-19-2008, 07:58 PM
Ramirez slicing and dicing through 3.

Matt700wlw
09-19-2008, 08:00 PM
:jump:

MrCinatit
09-19-2008, 08:00 PM
Geez. Votto bombs his second one...came a few feet of going out of the stadium.

I find myself at times liking this club's future. And if the kid Chris and George are talking with in the booth turns out to be the real deal, all the better.

lollipopcurve
09-19-2008, 08:01 PM
Alonso in the booth and Votto almost hits one into the river. Who plays first for the Reds?

Matt700wlw
09-19-2008, 08:02 PM
This team may be just fine...

Matt700wlw
09-19-2008, 08:04 PM
Votto, Bruce, and the potential of Alonzo kind of makes you a little warm and fuzzy....

klw
09-19-2008, 08:12 PM
Leaving the office. Maybe I will be able to listen to WLW on the way home. I caught the 9th last night but lost the signal as I entered Franconia Notch when Keppinger had two strikes on him. Nothing like listening to a game while driving at night and looking out for moose and bears.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 08:14 PM
Bruce is going to be great. Obvious.

Yep.

MrCinatit
09-19-2008, 08:21 PM
If I am a Brewers fan, I am very unhappy. Talk about a huge choke.

Fortunately, I am a Reds fan, not having to put up with that pesky playoff run pressure year after year.

AmarilloRed
09-19-2008, 08:23 PM
3 hits allowed by Ramirez through 4 innings. I really think he could be a good starting pitcher for us. What is his ceiling?

nate
09-19-2008, 08:24 PM
Chat is open!

Matt700wlw
09-19-2008, 08:30 PM
You do realize, beating the Brewers helps the Cubs.... ;)

HokieRed
09-19-2008, 08:31 PM
I think we are in the process, Redsfans, of seeing the problem of our #5 starter solved.

nate
09-19-2008, 08:32 PM
I like these Brotto and Vuce guys.

Matt700wlw
09-19-2008, 08:34 PM
I think we are in the process, Redsfans, of seeing the problem of our #5 starter solved.

To think, if Fogg were healthy, Ramirez would still be relegated to bullpen/spot start duties

AmarilloRed
09-19-2008, 08:36 PM
8-1 in the fifth

nate
09-19-2008, 08:38 PM
Holy Cabrera!

Red in Chicago
09-19-2008, 08:40 PM
i love that the reds are having a say in keeping the brewers out of the playoffs...i'd much rather watch the mets as the wild card winner...

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 08:45 PM
You do realize, beating the Brewers helps the Cubs.... ;)

Not really. The Cubs pretty much have the division locked up.

MartyFan
09-19-2008, 08:46 PM
To think, if Fogg were healthy, Ramirez would still be relegated to bullpen/spot start duties

Time to take him out of the game...he's done his job...now, preserve his arm and let the BP work.

What GM brought him into the organization?

PuffyPig
09-19-2008, 08:46 PM
You do realize, beating the Brewers helps the Cubs.... ;)


No, it helps the Phillies or the Mets.

I'd much rather see the Brewers in, but I'd rather the Reds always win.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 08:49 PM
There's where we miss Brandon Phillips. He gets to that ball 10 times out of 10.

HokieRed
09-19-2008, 08:49 PM
Ramirez's bio. says he was signed as a released player in May, 2003. That means he came in under Jimbo.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 08:51 PM
Fielder singles. First and second with nobody out. Hardy pops out to Votto. One out.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 08:52 PM
Hart picks up on a RBI single just over Castillo's head. I still can't believe that groundball Braun hit made it through the infield.

Hopefully Dusty has somebody ready in the pen.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 08:54 PM
Counsell flies out for the second out. Hopefully Ramirez can get Kendall out here and finish up with another strong start.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 08:56 PM
Kendall pops out to Votto. Another great start by Ramirez:

6 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 BB, 5 K, 94 pitches.

I'd pull him so he can go out on a high note.

guttle11
09-19-2008, 08:58 PM
Everyone gets a dinger! This was Andy Phillips turn.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 08:59 PM
Andy Phillips pinch hit homerun! 10-2 Reds.

Six homeruns tonight by the Reds.

AmarilloRed
09-19-2008, 09:05 PM
Lincoln on for the 7th; Ramirez is done for the night.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:05 PM
Mike Lincoln in to pitch the 7th inning.

gm
09-19-2008, 09:06 PM
I think we are in the process, Redsfans, of seeing the problem of our #5 starter solved.

The Reds do seem to have cornered the market on pitchers who stand 5'9" and under...

RedsManRick
09-19-2008, 09:07 PM
Good to see Dusty getting Mike Lincoln some work. Wouldn't want Roenicke, Adkins, Pettyjohn, or Herrera to face actual major leaguers in such a close game...

gm
09-19-2008, 09:10 PM
If I am a Brewers fan, I am very unhappy. Talk about a huge choke.

Fortunately, I am a Reds fan, not having to put up with that pesky playoff run pressure year after year.


Remember the "lost weekend" series at Milwaukee's County stadium back in '99?

Being a Viking's fan, I refuse to feel bad for Wisconsin cheeseheads.

Tony Cloninger
09-19-2008, 09:12 PM
ALL Grande ever drones on about....besides his bad jokes....is how this player is the guy who brings a clubhouse together...how he works so hard and is a gentlemen and a scholar.....the same code words every day.

He looks like Michael from The Office and is even more annoying and less funny.

gm
09-19-2008, 09:15 PM
ALL Grande ever drones on about....besides his bad jokes...and is even more annoying and less funny.

no mute button on your remote?

AmarilloRed
09-19-2008, 09:16 PM
2 runners on and Fielder at the plate; let's see another reliever. He did get out of the jam; bottom of the 7th.

Red in Chicago
09-19-2008, 09:21 PM
bruce again!!! wow

gm
09-19-2008, 09:21 PM
Bruce has "goofy power" reminds me of Lance Berkman

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:21 PM
Bruce homers to left center! #21 for Bruce. Bruce and Votto are going to fun to watch for the next decade.

gm
09-19-2008, 09:22 PM
Prince's glove has "DH" written all over it

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:23 PM
The Reds have seven homeruns tonight which ties the season high for any major league team...the Reds have did it three times this season.

PuffyPig
09-19-2008, 09:28 PM
The Reds have seven homeruns tonight which ties the season high for any major league team...the Reds have did it three times this season.

Who would have thought that a Reds lineup minus Dunn, Griffey, Phillips, Encarnacion and even Dickerson could hit 7 HR's in a week, much less in 7 innings?

gm
09-19-2008, 09:28 PM
The Reds have seven homeruns tonight which ties the season high for any major league team...the Reds have did it three times this season.

But how will they ever score any runs without Griffey and Dunn?

AmarilloRed
09-19-2008, 09:30 PM
Lincoln out there for a second inning.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:30 PM
Who would have thought that a Reds lineup minus Dunn, Griffey, Phillips, Encarnacion and even Dickerson could hit 7 HR's in a week, much less in 7 innings?

You ain't kidding. Who would have thought Andy Phillips, Jolbert Cabrera, and Jerry Hairston Jr. would ever hit a homerun in the same game?

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:31 PM
Lincoln out there for a second inning.

Jon Adkins is pitching the 8th inning.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:34 PM
In the last few days I've been roaming a Cards and Brewers message board reading their thoughts on the Reds. Cards fans were saying the Reds were going to be very good soon and tonight on the Brewers game thread one poster said the Reds were going to be scary good soon. It's always to see to see fans of other teams complimenting the Reds young talent.

Tony Cloninger
09-19-2008, 09:35 PM
What's a remote?

AmarilloRed
09-19-2008, 09:36 PM
I was a bit premature, it was showing Lincoln when I checked Reds.com

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:38 PM
Bruce makes a great diving catch on a sinking line drive. Stud.

gm
09-19-2008, 09:40 PM
What's a remote?


Check into a Red Roof Inn

redsmetz
09-19-2008, 09:42 PM
You ain't kidding. Who would have thought Andy Phillips, Jolbert Cabrera, and Jerry Hairston Jr. would ever hit a homerun in the same game?

Up there with Ed Armbrister hitting two homers in a game (half his career total!).

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CIN/CIN197607310.shtml

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:42 PM
Votto's second homerun was estimated at 462 feet, btw. That's Dunn territory.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:46 PM
Bottom 8

Hairston singles

Castillo is robbed of a hit on a sliding catch by Braun

Votto walks

One out. Hopefully Bruce can get a chance to hit his third homerun of the game.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:49 PM
Cabrera grounds into a force out.

Ltlabner
09-19-2008, 09:50 PM
Votto's second homerun was estimated at 462 feet, btw. That's Dunn territory.

Is that Dunn territory with or with-out the GABP boost?

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:50 PM
Bruce grounds out. 11-2 Reds after eight innings.

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:50 PM
Is that Dunn territory with or with-out the GABP boost?

:roll:

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:53 PM
Affeldt in to pitch the 9th inning.

CTA513
09-19-2008, 09:54 PM
Is that Dunn territory with or with-out the GABP boost?

with GABP boost, it would be a pop out to 2nd in any other park.


:p:

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:56 PM
Affeldt gives up a single followed by another single (should have been an error).

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 09:58 PM
Flyout and a doubleplay by Braun ends the game. Reds win 11-2!

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 10:00 PM
Congrats to Ramon Ramirez on his first major league win. He's been nothing but impressive in his first four major league appearances.

AmarilloRed
09-19-2008, 10:01 PM
I asked it earlier; what is Ramon Ramirez' ceiling?

OnBaseMachine
09-19-2008, 10:04 PM
I asked it earlier; what is Ramon Ramirez' ceiling?

Solid number four starter. Maybe higher if he can develop a better slider.

lollipopcurve
09-19-2008, 10:13 PM
what is Ramon Ramirez' ceiling

not real high, but he's shown enough to be considered a solid back of the rotation candidate -- he competes very well and his changeup is a great pitch -- I like the kid -- fields his position well and can swing the bat a little bit too -- he's going to keep you in the game more often than not

Will M
09-19-2008, 10:22 PM
not real high, but he's shown enough to be considered a solid back of the rotation candidate -- he competes very well and his changeup is a great pitch -- I like the kid -- fields his position well and can swing the bat a little bit too -- he's going to keep you in the game more often than not

He is the only guy the Reds sent out in the #5 slot this year that didn't pitch terrible. He actually pitched well. If the Reds don't get a 5th starter via free agency then he will be in the mix for the #5 spot next year. since his ceiling isn't as high as others he could go to the pen if someone else is lights out next spring. I definitley want him on the 12 man staff next year.

LoganBuck
09-19-2008, 11:41 PM
Brantley was talking tonight about Votto and Bruce having a friendly competition to see who could hit the most homeruns at the major league level. Kinda nice to see them rounding into shape.

WVRedsFan
09-20-2008, 01:05 AM
Really. As much talent as the Reds appear to have (see Harang, Arroyo, Cueto, Volquez, Ramirez, etc), why would we be searching for starting pitching. I count five starters just there. Time to look at offense, especially at shortstop (providing they can hit) and the outfield. Dickerson may be the ticket in center, but in left I'd look for a RH banger.

Of course, there's the bullpen with Weathers and Affeldt movin on (I expect), there's where the emphasis should be. If Gonzo comes back. maybe it's time to move him if anything else comes up, but starting pitching seems solid.