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Red in Chicago
09-21-2008, 11:10 AM
Arroyo vs McClung

Lineups to be posted later:

Red in Chicago
09-21-2008, 12:35 PM
can someone please the lineup when available. I'm not going to be home for a while.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 12:52 PM
Reds

Jerry Hairson Jr. -- RF

Jeff Keppinger -- SS

Joey Votto -- 1B

Andy Phillips -- 3B

Jolbert Cabrera -- LF

Corey Patterson -- CF

Danny Richar -- 2B

Ryan Hanigan -- C

Bronson Arroyo (15-10, 4.57) -- P


Brewers

Mike Cameron -- CF

Craig Counsell -- 3B

Ryan Braun -- LF

Prince Fielder -- 1B

JJ Hardy -- SS

Corey Hart -- RF

Richie Weeks -- 2B

Jason Kendall -- C

Seth McClung (5-6, 4.22) -- P

That may be the worst Reds lineup of the year.

Degenerate39
09-21-2008, 02:12 PM
The Bengals game is finally on TV for me. But I really have no idea which bad team I want to watch. I guess I'll watch the bad team that's doing decent lately.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:16 PM
Cameron K's on three pitches.

Counsell flies out to Hairston in RF.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:18 PM
Braun K's. Nice first inning by Bronson.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:21 PM
Hairston gets HBP to begin the bottom of the first.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:23 PM
Keppinger walks. First and second with nobody out for Votto.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:25 PM
Votto flies out to LF.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:26 PM
Andy Phillips grounds into a doubleplay. I can't believe this guy is batting 4th. Where is Rosales? Arroyo will need to throw a shutout today for a win.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:29 PM
Fielder homers. 1-0 Brewers.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:31 PM
Hardy reaches on an infield single. It took Phillips forever to get to that ball and then he struggled to get it out of his glove. That's a play Edwin is good at.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:31 PM
Hart GIDP.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:33 PM
Weeks K's. 1-0 Brewers after 1 1/2.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:37 PM
Cabrera gets ahead 3-1 and pops out on ball 4. He refused that walk. There is no excuse for a guy like Cabrera or Phillips to be starting over Rosales today.

Spring~Fields
09-21-2008, 02:38 PM
Andy Phillips grounds into a doubleplay. I can't believe this guy is batting 4th. Where is Rosales? Arroyo will need to throw a shutout today for a win.

I can believe he is batting fourth. :)

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:40 PM
Patterson also refuses a walk and K's on ball four. Richar drops down a beautiful bunt single.

MrCinatit
09-21-2008, 02:41 PM
Phillips and Cabrera are fine in the number 4 and 5 holes.

As long as their first names are Brandon and Miguel. Maybe Brandon not so much...but that isn't even a percentage as insane was Andy in the 4 hole. Twice.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:44 PM
Hanigan works the count to 3-2 and walks. Good atbat. Two on for Arroyo.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:50 PM
Bronson gets ahead 2-1, called strike 2-2, foul, wild pitch moves the runners up. 3-2 now. Foul keeps it 3-2. Another foul. Ground out to Hardy ends the inning.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 02:51 PM
McClung is very fortunate this is still a 1-0 game. He was all over the place last inning but the Reds veterans really helped him out. Cabrera swung at an awful 3-1 pitch and fouled out. Patterson swung at ball four and struckout. Richar and Hanigan followed with a single and a walk.

RedsManRick
09-21-2008, 03:06 PM
Any word on Bruce?

Doc. Scott
09-21-2008, 03:27 PM
Man, stop the world! After Phillips singles, Cabrera and Patterson draw back-to-back walks.

Richar grounds out to score one. 4-1 Brewers.

Doc. Scott
09-21-2008, 03:30 PM
Hanigan HBP'd to load the bases with one out for Arroyo. McClung gets the hook in favor of Todd Coffey.

Doc. Scott
09-21-2008, 03:33 PM
Coffey K's Bronson on a couple of nasty sliders. Three more take care of Hairston.

4-1 Brews after 4.

WVRedsFan
09-21-2008, 03:35 PM
Todd C. just needed Reds hitters to put him back on track. The Brewers should keep him to pitch only to the Reds.

That or he got some superior instruction in Milwaukee. He looked good and made Hairston look bad that at-bat.

RedFanAlways1966
09-21-2008, 03:36 PM
Love to know who Coffey is giving the death-stare to upstairs. Doesn't seem like it is in his character, but someone has ticked him off. Lots of dummies in that pressbox, so your guess is as good as mine.

WVRedsFan
09-21-2008, 03:38 PM
Love to know who Coffey is giving the death-stare to upstairs. Doesn't seem like it is in his character, but someone has ticked him off. Lots of dummies in that pressbox, so your guess is as good as mine.

Brantley. Remember?

Doc. Scott
09-21-2008, 03:40 PM
Arroyo puts the first two Brewers on base to begin the fifth- the #8 hitter Kendall and pinch-hitter Joe Dillon. But Hanigan hangs on to a foul tip to get Cameron (three Ks in a row). But Counsell draws a walk on a full count. Braun and Fielder (3 RBIs) to follow with the sacks juiced.

WVRedsFan
09-21-2008, 03:41 PM
Arroyo having a rough time today. It was bound to happen. You can't be "on" every start.

RedFanAlways1966
09-21-2008, 03:42 PM
Brantley. Remember?

Oh yeah. I forgot, thanks.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 03:44 PM
This ump sucks. That ball four on Dillon was strike two on Arroyo during his atbat.

Does Andy Phillips wear cement shoes? The big play in this game was last inning when Counsell led off with a single. Braun followed by hitting what looked like a doubleplay but somehow the slow roller made it past Andy Phillips for a single and the Brewers wound up scoring three runs. I know EdE isn't a great 3B but he's much better than Phillips. With Phillips at 3B, Keppinger at SS, and Cabrera in LF, I don't think I've ever seen a worse defensive left side.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 03:48 PM
Bases loaded and one out for Braun. Bronson seems to have trouble with Counsell for some reason. Arroyo was bound to have a bad start.

oneupper
09-21-2008, 03:51 PM
Richar had to put that one between Counsell's eyes.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 03:52 PM
Richar hands the Brewers two runs with a throwing error. 6-1 Brewers after 4 1/2. What a defense.

WVRedsFan
09-21-2008, 03:52 PM
We need a shortstop. That looked too familiar. Or sounded. We aren't getting the game on TV today. You got it in GB, OBM?

Doc. Scott
09-21-2008, 03:54 PM
A FC grounder by Braun ends up scoring two after a Danny Richar throwing error. Fielder is intentionally passed, then Arroyo finally escapes the inning by popping up JJ Hardy. Now 6-1 Milwaukee.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 03:55 PM
We need a shortstop. That looked too familiar. Or sounded. We aren't getting the game on TV today. You got it in GB, OBM?

I'm watching the game. As for the play, I missed it but I checked Gameday and it says Richar made a throwing error. Anyone care to describe what happened?

I agree with ya on shortstop. It's the biggest need for this organization IMO.

Doc. Scott
09-21-2008, 03:55 PM
Keppinger pokes a single to lead off the bottom of 5, but Votto erases that with a 6-3 DP grounder.

WVRedsFan
09-21-2008, 03:56 PM
I'm watching the game. As for the play, I missed it but I checked Gameday and it says Richar made a throwing error. Anyone care to describe what happened?

I agree with ya on shortstop. It's the biggest need for this organization IMO.

Suddenlink or dish? What channel?

oneupper
09-21-2008, 03:57 PM
I'm watching the game. As for the play, I missed it but I checked Gameday and it says Richar made a throwing error. Anyone care to describe what happened?

I agree with ya on shortstop. It's the biggest need for this organization IMO.

Sure. Grounder was a bit to Kepp's right, he scoops it up and throws to Richar. Counsell came into second standing up and Richar throws the ball over Votto's head.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 03:58 PM
Suddenlink or dish? What channel?

Dish. Channel 661. I don't think Suddenlink is showing the game today.

Doc. Scott
09-21-2008, 03:59 PM
Phillips walks and goes to second on a wild pitch, but Cabrera is caught looking. Still 6-1, end 5.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:00 PM
The Reds are playing like crap today but beating CC Sabathia and taking two of three from the Brewers is a very successful series. Hopefully Bruce, EdE, and Dickerson are back tomorrow or Tuesday.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:01 PM
Arroyo back out there for the 6th. I think I would have pulled him and let some guys like Herrera and Roenicke get an inning.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:03 PM
Hall flies out and Weeks K's.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:04 PM
Kendall flies out. So Arroyo finishes by allowing five earned runs in six innings but it could have been better with some defense behind him.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:09 PM
I missed a few atbats in the 5th inning but I only remember just a few hard hit balls off Arroyo all day. The Brewers have six hits. Braun hit a slow roller that somehow made it past Phillips. Hardy had an infield single that Phillips took forever to get out of his glove. Counsell had a line drive single and Fielder hit two rockets but that's the only hard hit balls I remember.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:10 PM
Patterson grounds out

Richar doubles

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:12 PM
Hanigan and Castillo ground out. 6-1 Brewers after six innings.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:14 PM
Herrera in to pitch the 7th.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:16 PM
Escobar grounds out. Cameron gets HBP.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:17 PM
And now Counsell gets HBP.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:19 PM
Herrera is getting squeezed. He threw two perfect pitches on the corner to Braun and both were called balls.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:23 PM
Any word on Bruce?

Bruce not in lineup on Sunday
Outfielder day-to-day after being hit on hand Saturday
By Justice B. Hill / MLB.com

CINCINNATI -- Manager Dusty Baker decided not to pencil rookie Jay Bruce's name into the Reds' starting lineup Sunday in the series finale with the Milwaukee Brewers.

Bruce had started the game Saturday, which the Reds won, 4-3. But he left early after getting hit on his right hand by a pitch in the fourth inning. X-rays taken later were negative, and he was listed as day-to-day.

Still, Baker chose not to start Bruce.

"I don't care what kind of treatment you take, you're going to be sore," Baker said. "I'm glad nothing's broken."

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080921&content_id=3520599&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:23 PM
Braun grounds out. That may have been a doubleplay if Herrera fields it cleanly.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:25 PM
Herrera made Fielder look foolish. He got him to chase three straight nasty sliders down and away. I think Herrera's got a chance to be a solid big leaguer if utilized properly, i.e., not using him two or three innings at a time.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:36 PM
6-1 Brewers after seven innings.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:39 PM
Majewski in to pitch the 8th inning. Hardy hits a groundball down the line for a double and advances to third on an error by Cabrera. The left side strikes again.

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 04:40 PM
Hart sac fly makes it 7-1.

WVRedsFan
09-21-2008, 05:08 PM
Tell me once again. Why are we keeping Majewski on the roster?

WVRedsFan
09-21-2008, 05:13 PM
Going into the bottom of the 9th, the Reds have 4 hits in eight turns on pitchers who have not set the world on fire:

McClung - 4.17 ERA
Coffey - 4.81
Villanueva - 4.15
Gagne - 5.82

Only hits by Keppinger, Phillips,and Richar.

Two out of three ain't bad, though.

As the first man up, Hanigan, gets a hit to start the 9th.

WVRedsFan
09-21-2008, 05:19 PM
Reds lose 8-1. I guess everyone left...:)

OnBaseMachine
09-21-2008, 05:27 PM
Hanigan had a nice day going 1-for-2 with a walk and HBP.