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Michael Young
09-21-2008, 01:11 PM
poor carson i'm actually worried he could be seriously injured in this game :(

MWM
09-21-2008, 01:16 PM
I'd be shocked it they Bengals score more than 6 points, unless they get some kind of special teams or defensive TD.

Hoosier Red
09-21-2008, 01:53 PM
I'd be shocked it they Bengals score more than 6 points, unless they get some kind of special teams or defensive TD.

You meant before the 10 minute mark in the 2nd Quarter right?
:p:

Reds Fanatic
09-21-2008, 01:53 PM
Bengals have put together 2 good drives against the Giants and take a 10-7 lead on a nice 26 yard TD run by Perry.

MWM
09-21-2008, 02:15 PM
I'm speechless. I'm going to call this the game the Giants just assumed would be a win.

harangatang
09-21-2008, 02:27 PM
13-10 at the half, but you have to wonder when Palmer is going to throw his first TD pass of the year. The Bengals offense is looking better and it seems they are clicking more with Chris Perry opening up the running game a little bit.

Michael Young
09-21-2008, 03:07 PM
why does bratkowski run perry between the tackles on 1 and 2 down?????idiotic

Michael Young
09-21-2008, 03:10 PM
6 sacks on palmer now :rolleyes:

Joseph
09-21-2008, 03:15 PM
It's getting ugly out there.

Hoosier Red
09-21-2008, 03:16 PM
well they stunt the drive and Carney makes a long field goal. I'm not watching, but you have to be impressed with the defense to this point.

guttle11
09-21-2008, 03:22 PM
Defense has been pretty good. Leon Hall has effectively shut down Plaxico Burress (knock on wood).

The offense hasn't been bad, but the Giants d-line is starting to dominate. We're going to need a turnover on defense to win this game.

Hoosier Red
09-21-2008, 03:25 PM
Great, I just realized the game's on here in Indy.

guttle11
09-21-2008, 03:28 PM
Does Glenn Holt ever just hit the wall and go upfield on a kickoff? Get as many yards as possible. Stop trying to break a big return every time. Get 25 yards and get the ball to the 30.

guttle11
09-21-2008, 03:33 PM
That was incredible touch by Palmer on the flea flicker.

Need a TD on this drive.

OldRightHander
09-21-2008, 03:38 PM
Wow

cincrazy
09-21-2008, 03:39 PM
Incredible. Carson Palmer is earning his warrior badge after this game. He's been absolutely abused, yet he's had a great game.

guttle11
09-21-2008, 03:40 PM
Good stuff. Great pass and a great catch by TJ for the TD.

Up 20-16.

Probably going to need a turnover to hold the lead.

harangatang
09-21-2008, 03:41 PM
Houshmandzadeh TD, Holy crap!!!

Hoosier Red
09-21-2008, 03:41 PM
wow, what a drive. Absolutely need to win though, if they give up a late TD, this sucks any optimism I just discovered.

OldRightHander
09-21-2008, 03:43 PM
You're probably right. Time for that turnover now.

OldRightHander
09-21-2008, 03:43 PM
Pick 6 would be just what the doctor ordered.

OldRightHander
09-21-2008, 03:45 PM
Uh oh

guttle11
09-21-2008, 03:47 PM
Man, this is really crappy. The defense picked the wrong time to fall apart.

Hope for a tipped ball INT in the endzone, I guess. Can't imagine us stopping them three straight plays this close without some luck.

guttle11
09-21-2008, 03:57 PM
In FG range and you false start. Bungles.

guttle11
09-21-2008, 03:58 PM
Big play. Down to the 20.

Screw the FG. Go to Ocho Cinco for the TD.

Michael Young
09-21-2008, 03:59 PM
why didnt the stupid bengals call timeout on the 3rd and 1????

stupid stupid stupid stupid

OldRightHander
09-21-2008, 04:02 PM
The way this has been going, they needed to win that toss.

Michael Young
09-21-2008, 04:02 PM
marvin really blew that endgame clock management yet again

OldRightHander
09-21-2008, 04:03 PM
Did they just end the 4th quarter with a time out left?

guttle11
09-21-2008, 04:04 PM
why didnt the stupid bengals call timeout on the 3rd and 1????

stupid stupid stupid stupid

Only one left. Need to keep it in the bag in case you get tackled in play with a few seconds left...like they were. I think they handled it well.

OldRightHander
09-21-2008, 04:04 PM
Does the defense have one more stop left in them?

KoryMac5
09-21-2008, 04:05 PM
Haven't had a big play on D all game. We need a turnover.

Hoosier Red
09-21-2008, 04:05 PM
marvin really blew that endgame clock management yet again

Well they played it pretty conservatively, but I agree. I'd call timeout first, worry about what happens next next.

Hoosier Red
09-21-2008, 04:07 PM
Well they played it pretty conservatively, but I agree. I'd call timeout first, worry about what happens next next.

NOOOOOO, this game leaves me in three minutes.
Of course it may not matter by then.

Michael Young
09-21-2008, 04:07 PM
Only one left. Need to keep it in the bag in case you get tackled in play with a few seconds left...like they were. I think they handled it well.

i disagree you could have easily spiked the ball after a sack with the amt of time they had left

OldRightHander
09-21-2008, 04:08 PM
Big stick there. Palmer needs to win it here.

cincrazy
09-21-2008, 04:10 PM
I'm a nervous wreck. I"ll be happy with a tie.

guttle11
09-21-2008, 04:12 PM
Brat just soiled the bed with the calls on that series.

MWM
09-21-2008, 04:15 PM
LOL!! Gotta love the Bengals. They get the ball back in OT and the first two plays are Chris Perry up the middle for no yards. They deserve what they get.

Michael Young
09-21-2008, 04:16 PM
pathetic

when will brat finally get fired

KronoRed
09-21-2008, 04:16 PM
Great catch right there.

cincrazy
09-21-2008, 04:17 PM
I don't even feel like following this team anymore. If ever I'd quit on a team of mine, this would be the instance.

CTA513
09-21-2008, 04:21 PM
Great job by the defense to quickly give up the lead after the Bengals offense went down late in the 4th quarter to give the Bengals the lead.

macro
09-21-2008, 04:25 PM
If you really think about it, which team was going to win this game was never in doubt at any point all day. The only suspense was how and by how many points.

It would appear that a 1-6 start is inevitable, and that's only if they manage to beat the Browns at home.

When does basketball start?

guttle11
09-21-2008, 04:27 PM
In a vacuum this is not a maddening loss. They went toe to toe with one of the best teams in the league and came up just a bit short.

When you're 0-2, though, a loss like this is back-breaking. More so than a blowout. One play could have turned the season around and started some momentum. I fear they won't be able to find today's intensity again and go 0-8...which may not be the worst thing in the world in the long run.

guttle11
09-21-2008, 04:28 PM
When does basketball start?

Just under two months!

macro
09-21-2008, 05:34 PM
...and go 0-8...which may not be the worst thing in the world in the long run.

It's almost like it was in the late 1990s, when I found myself hoping for 1-15 or 2-14 so that they would have to blow it up and start over. Instead, at least for a few years, they kept trudging along at 6-10 or 7-9, and nothing changed. The 2-14 season finally came and it ushered in the Lewis era.

Once again, it's time to blow it up. Unfortunately, I've given up hope that the next era will be any better than the ones that have come since 1991.

guttle11
09-21-2008, 07:02 PM
It's almost like it was in the late 1990s, when I found myself hoping for 1-15 or 2-14 so that they would have to blow it up and start over. Instead, at least for a few years, they kept trudging along at 6-10 or 7-9, and nothing changed. The 2-14 season finally came and it ushered in the Lewis era.

Once again, it's time to blow it up. Unfortunately, I've given up hope that the next era will be any better than the ones that have come since 1991.

I agree with not having hope of sustained success with the current FO in charge. Won't happen. What could happen is firing Marvin, getting lucky with hiring a new coach, and being able to win using smoke and mirrors for a couple years with Palmer. Marvin did it for a few years. Someone else can, too.

I do like many of the young players the Bengals have. A new coach that the players respect and can get behind, some roster tweaks, and a good draft can all be done without Mike Brown dropping the penny pinching hammer.

Redhook
09-22-2008, 07:24 AM
A few thoughts about the Bengals...

Willie Anderson couldn't be worse than Levi Jones.

Levi's false starts and sacks allowed cost the Bengals the game. He's terrible.

Bob Bratkowski blew the overtime play-calling, just when the offense actually looked decent.

Chris Perry looks great.

The offensive line could be the worst in the NFL.

Somehow, the Bengals took the game to overtime despite getting man-handled in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

The Giants defense reminded me of a hungry pack of wolves.

Carson is fine.

bucksfan2
09-22-2008, 08:24 AM
Thoughts....

Boy that Ryder Cup was fun to watch.

The Bengals are awful at getting the call to the team. Too many delay of games and time outs while the play clock is running out.

They finally had some better play calling. Carson did a good job of finding the hot receiver and getting the ball out quickly.

Sometimes it doesn't look like the team is on the same page. One snap the WR's looked like they were on a different snap count than Carson

Perry looked good. I like when he gets the ball in the open.

Enough with the offsides quick snap. Too many times it backfires.

What happened to Levi?

I would have gone for the TD but I don't blame the FG try call.

What a game by the CB's. They played well considering that they were down to the 3rd CB and a practice squad CB.

The D is slowly coming around. If they had a pass rush this could be a good defense.

gonelong
09-22-2008, 09:51 AM
Defense seems to be improving ... can they do this consistently?

Offense seems to be coming around ... when Palmer has time he is deadly.

Perry looks suprisingly good ... can he stay on the field ... and what might have this guy looked like if he was healthy with some of the lines we had early in his career?

Had a chance to win it in regulation with a TD and just burned way too much time in the last minute of the game. Everybody and their brother knew they'd lost in OT, their the Bengals.

GL

freestyle55
09-22-2008, 10:39 AM
I admittedly haven't seen much of the games yet, but how good can Perry really be "looking" if he's only getting 3 yds a carry and 60 yds a game?

Granted, it's Baltimore, Tennessee, and the Giants, but really? What makes him "look" good?

Puffy
09-22-2008, 11:12 AM
The Giants did not play great yesterday. With that said, the Bengals are in no way an 0-3 team. Carson Palmer got hit all day and he still stayed in til the end and made every throw.

The Bengals staff, I think, won the coaching battle. The Bengals took a page out of the Giants book and blitzed all out a ton and even though they never really pressured Manning they did make him throw shorter routes than he liked and that helped the Bengals cb's. Also, the double of Burress all game worked awesomely til the end. The Bengals offense also had a great game plan - use some of the Giants aggressiveness against them with Perry on counters and slower developing runs and then throw short. Also they stayed away from the Giants corners (the starters) and abused our nickel back all day. The Giants need to fix that, but credit to the Bengals for exploiting it.

Honestly, the Giants are just a better team right now and thats why they were able to sneak away with a win. But the Bengals have talent, they just need consistency, imo.

cincrazy
09-22-2008, 11:16 AM
I admittedly haven't seen much of the games yet, but how good can Perry really be "looking" if he's only getting 3 yds a carry and 60 yds a game?

Granted, it's Baltimore, Tennessee, and the Giants, but really? What makes him "look" good?

I see what you're saying, but he has looked good. The offensive line is just THAT atrocious, trust me. Plus Bratkowski's playcalling goes a long way towards hindering Perry's stats.

freestyle55
09-22-2008, 12:58 PM
I see what you're saying, but he has looked good. The offensive line is just THAT atrocious, trust me. Plus Bratkowski's playcalling goes a long way towards hindering Perry's stats.

Unfortunately, that's the answer I was afraid of...don't think the O-line's going to change much this year, and I thought I've been hearing people saying that Bratkowski might be the next HC if Marvin's gone next year...hope I'm wrong on that one...

I used to watch every single game that I could, but the way they've looked this year, I just have found other things to do (plus having an 8-month old helps with that too...)

Thank god there's some hope still with the Reds... [edit: Oh my god, did I actually just write that :) ]

CrackerJack
09-26-2008, 09:50 PM
Perry averaged like 2 yards a carry again in the 2nd half. His #'s over-all aren't good at all. I'm sure it has more to do with the poor o-line, but they need to rotate Watson and Dorsey in there more often, and quit being so vanilla and relying on Palmer so much.