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OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 12:42 PM
Lineup vs. Marlins
Posted by JohnFay at 9/22/2008 11:35 AM EDT on Cincinnati.com

Jerry Hairston Jr. rf

Wilkin Castillo lf

Joey Votto 1b

Edwin Encarnacion 3b

Jeff Keppinger ss

Danny Richar 2b

Corey Patterson cf

Paul Bako c

Aaron Harang p

v. RH Rick Nolasco

Jay Bruce's hand is still too sore to play. "It hadn't got any worse," he said. "My goal is to play some time in Houston."

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3ac27a2be0-d52d-4591-8ce3-512546ecbe3d&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

It's beginning to look like Dickerson is done for the season.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 02:04 PM
Don't forget there's a game today. The last home game against the Marlins. First pitch upcoming.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:05 PM
I started a game thread about an hour or so ago but it hasn't been approved yet.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 02:08 PM
I guess this one will do until it does. Kelch and Welsch doing the game on the radio. Has Marty taken off for the season?

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:09 PM
Harang enters this game with 0 ER allowed in his last 16 innings.

BRM
09-22-2008, 02:09 PM
Not a good start. Hermida homers.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 02:10 PM
Harang enters this game with 0 ER allowed in his last 16 innings.

He just gave up one. A HR for Hermida. 1-0 Fish.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 02:12 PM
1-0 Fish after a half inning.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:13 PM
I'm a big jinx. Saturday I mentioned that Cordero had thrown 12 consecutive shutout innings, so what does he do? Serves up a lead off homerun to Rickie Weeks to begin the 9th inning. Today I point out that Harang hasn't allowed an earned run in 16 innings...a minute later Hermida homers.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:16 PM
Hairston doubles.

BRM
09-22-2008, 02:17 PM
I love sac bunts in the 1st inning.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:19 PM
The sac bunt didn't help any as Votto followed by popping out for the second out. Hairston remains at third.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:21 PM
EdE grounds out. The Reds had a runner on second with nobody out and failed to score.

dougdirt
09-22-2008, 02:23 PM
Sounds like Dickerson is out for the season

BRM
09-22-2008, 02:25 PM
Sounds like Dickerson is out for the season

That's too bad. I was hoping he could some more plate appearances before the season ended.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:28 PM
The Marlins have a nice young nucleus to build around - Hanley Ramirez, Jeremy Hermida, Dan Uggla, Cameron Maybin, plus other good looking bats like Chris Coghlan, Logan Morrison, and Mike Stanton in the minors. Add in Ricky Nolasco, Andrew Miller, Ryan Tucker, and Chris Volstad and they have the makings of solid pitching staff. With a new stadium to open in a few years, the future of baseball in South Florida looks bright.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:31 PM
3-0 Marlins in the second inning and they have two on with nobody out. Harang seems to only be topping out at 88 today.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 02:31 PM
The Marlins have a nice young nucleus to build around - Hanley Ramirez, Jeremy Hermida, Dan Uggla, Cameron Maybin, plus other good looking bats like Chris Coghlan, Logan Morrison, and Mike Stanton in the minors. Add in Ricky Nolasco, Andrew Miller, Ryan Tucker, and Chris Volstad and they have the makings of solid pitching staff. With a new stadium to open in a few years, the future of baseball in South Florida looks bright.

It's too bad no one comes out to see them.

BRM
09-22-2008, 02:32 PM
Not looking good so far. It's been a rough 2nd inning for Harang.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:32 PM
It's too bad no one comes out to see them.

Hopefully that will change when the new stadium opens.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:38 PM
3-0 Marlins after 1 1/2.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:39 PM
Keppinger doubles to begin the 2nd.

BRM
09-22-2008, 02:40 PM
Attempted sac bunt by Richar failed. Now he's swinging away apparently.

BRM
09-22-2008, 02:44 PM
7 pitch AB so far for CPatt.

BRM
09-22-2008, 02:46 PM
Patterson lines out to Uggla. Two down.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:48 PM
Bako walks.

BRM
09-22-2008, 02:49 PM
What are the chances that Bako will be back next year? Bako, Hanigan, Castillo catching trio?

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:50 PM
Harang K's. For the second straight inning the Reds get a lead off double but strand him. 3-0 Marlins after two innings.

Reds Freak
09-22-2008, 02:54 PM
I can't imagine there's any more than a few thousand at the game today. Are they saying anything on the radio about the attendance? Just curious...

BRM
09-22-2008, 02:57 PM
Willingham homers. 4-0 Marlins in the 3rd.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 02:57 PM
I can't imagine there's any more than a few thousand at the game today. Are they saying anything on the radio about the attendance? Just curious...

They have just said it was a quiet crowd. For good reason too. It's 4-0 Fish after a Willingham HR.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 02:57 PM
I can't imagine there's any more than a few thousand at the game today. Are they saying anything on the radio about the attendance? Just curious...

Today is dress as an empty seat day at the park.

Harang retires the first two in the third inning by Willingham homers with two outs to make it 4-0.

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:05 PM
An easy 1-2-3 inning for Nolasco. 4-0 Marlins after three innings.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 03:06 PM
Reds out in order in the third. 4-0 Marlins. We are just zipping right along here.

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:07 PM
The Reds clearly needed Andy Phillips' bat in the lineup today. :cool:

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:12 PM
Harang strikes out the side in the 4th.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 03:13 PM
Nice inning for Harang. Hopefully he can settle down and turn this into a decent start.

WVRedsFan
09-22-2008, 03:16 PM
Welsh doing pbp. He's pretty good. Very impressive.

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:19 PM
Another easy inning for Nolasco. 4-0 Marlins after four.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 03:28 PM
Harang throws a scoreless 5th inning. 4-0 Marlins after 4 1/2.

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:33 PM
Nolasco strikes out the side. Still 4-0 after five.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 03:33 PM
Nolasco K's the bottom of the Reds order. He should only get credit for one against that bunch.

mbgrayson
09-22-2008, 03:37 PM
Has Marty taken off for the season?

Marty has a golf tournament today, as it was supposed to be an off day...

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:38 PM
Harang is cruising now. A 1-2-3 6th inning and it's still 4-0 after 5 1/2.

Big Klu
09-22-2008, 03:39 PM
Welsh doing pbp. He's pretty good. Very impressive.

I have thought for some time that Welsh and Brantley should switch roles. Brantley is very good at color commentary on TV, but is lacking at PBP on the radio. Welsh would do a good job at both radio and TV.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 03:40 PM
Marty has a golf tournament today, as it was supposed to be an off day...

Thanks,I just heard them talking about that.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 03:41 PM
Not bad by Harang. It wasn't a great start by any means but he settled down and finished strong against a tough offense.

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:42 PM
Not bad by Harang. It wasn't a great start by any means but he settled down and finished strong against a tough offense.

I don't think he's done yet.

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:44 PM
Votto homers to make it 4-1.

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:44 PM
He swung at the first pitch though so OBM is probably angry with him. ;)

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 03:45 PM
Votto is the man. #22 for Joey. 4-1 Marlins.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 03:51 PM
I hope Dusty pulls Harang. But it doesn't look like I'm going to get my wish.

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:51 PM
Harang gives up a single to Ricky Nolasco to begin the 7th.

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:55 PM
Hermida singles after Ramirez flew out. Runners at 1st and 2nd with one out.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 03:56 PM
Hermida singles. Once again Dusty left a starting pitcher in too long. First and second with one out and it appears Dusty will keep him in.

BRM
09-22-2008, 03:57 PM
Hermida singles. Once again Dusty left a starting pitcher in too long. First and second with one out and it appears Dusty will keep him in.

He's not at 120 pitches yet, dude.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 03:57 PM
He's not at 120 pitches yet, dude.

He's getting close. 116 through 6.2

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 03:59 PM
Helms flies out for the second out. Dusty is leaving Harang in to face the lefty Jacobs.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:00 PM
Jacobs flies out. 4-1 Marlins after 6 1/2.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:01 PM
Harang's final line: 7 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 2 BB, 6 K, 122 pitches.

NJReds
09-22-2008, 04:03 PM
Harang's final line: 7 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 2 BB, 6 K, 122 pitches.

Only 122 pitches? He's just getting warmed up.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:04 PM
Richar singles to begin the 7th. Unfortunately Patterson and Bako are coming up.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 04:08 PM
Pattersons doubles after actually looking at a few pitches. 2nd and 3rd one out for the Reds.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:09 PM
Nice AB by Patterson. Second and third and nobody out. Please pinch hit for Bako.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:10 PM
Andrew Miller replaces Nolasco. Is Dusty seriously going to let Bako hit?

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 04:10 PM
Nolasco out,Andrew Miller in for the Fish.

PuffyPig
09-22-2008, 04:11 PM
Please pinch hit for Bako.

I'm surprised they are bringing in the LH, should be a pretty easy descision to take Bako down for Hanigan.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:12 PM
Hanigan is pinch hitting for Bako. Good move.

NJReds
09-22-2008, 04:12 PM
Bring in Owings to pinch hit. ;)

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:12 PM
The clutchness of one Corey Patterson comes through again today.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:13 PM
Hanigan reaches on a fielders choice, all runners are safe. 4-2 now with runners on the corners and nobody out for Jolbert Cabrera.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:14 PM
They need to get at least one more run here.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:14 PM
Cabrera walks on four pitches.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:15 PM
Bases loaded, no outs for Hairston.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:15 PM
Bases loaded with nobody out for Hairston. Hopefully this will be a big inning.

PuffyPig
09-22-2008, 04:16 PM
Bases loaded with nobody out for Hairston. Hopefully this will be a big inning.


Wouldn't it be nice for the offense to actaully win one for Harang this year.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:17 PM
Wouldn't it be nice for the offense to actaully win one for Harang this year.

It sure would.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:18 PM
Hairston is quickly down 0-2. Then he singles scoring Patterson and Hanigan. Game is tied.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 04:19 PM
Hairston ties it up with a line drive single. 4-4 in the 7th

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:19 PM
Nice! A 2-run single by Hairston on a 0-2 count. 4-4 game now. I would probably just sac bunt with Castillo here.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:19 PM
Castillo bunting again.

PuffyPig
09-22-2008, 04:20 PM
FWIW, the Reds have not lost any of Harang's no descisions this year. And Harang is in line for, at worst, a no descision.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:21 PM
Sac bunting right here is the right move IMO. Castillo already has a couple bunt singles with the Reds, though he just bunted a couple foul.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:21 PM
I don't mind the bunt here with Votto and EE coming up. Of course, he can't get the bunt down and ends up striking out.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:22 PM
Castillo K's after failing to get two bunts down. Man oh man.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:23 PM
Bringing in a lefty to face Votto. Arthur Rhodes is relieving Kensing.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 04:23 PM
Another pitching change by the Marlins. Fourth pitcher this inning.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:25 PM
Harang has five wins this season. In four of those wins he allowed one run or less.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:26 PM
Rhodes is very tough on lefties.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:26 PM
Votto comes through! An RBI double plates Cabrera. 5-4 Reds.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 04:26 PM
Votto comes through again. Drives in Cabrera 5-4 Reds.

PuffyPig
09-22-2008, 04:27 PM
Rhodes is very tough on lefties.

So is Votto.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:28 PM
Edwin K's. Two down for Keppinger.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:28 PM
So is Votto.

True. Joey Votto is a stud. That gives Votto 30 doubles for the season. 30+ doubles, 20 + homers from our rookie first baseman. I'll take it.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:28 PM
They are going to intentionally walk Kepp and pitch to Richar.

Strikes Out Looking
09-22-2008, 04:29 PM
Thanks for the pbp guys. I wish we could blow through winter and just get to April '09 already.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:29 PM
Andy Phillips pinch-hitting for Richar.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 04:29 PM
Keppinger IBB Andy Phillips PH. Here you go BRM.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:30 PM
Andy Phillips = Clutch

dougdirt
09-22-2008, 04:30 PM
What is going on. Its now 7-4. I was gone for about 15 minutes?!

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:31 PM
It sure would be nice if they could tack on a couple more runs.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:31 PM
BRM, err, Andy Phillips comes through! Wow.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:31 PM
It sure would be nice if they could tack on a couple more runs.

Andy did his part. :)

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:32 PM
BRM, err, Andy Phillips comes through! Wow.

Personally, I'm not surprised.

PuffyPig
09-22-2008, 04:32 PM
I kinda feel for the Marlins this inning. We've had our share of bloops this inning to say the least.

But it averages out, and Harang was due for some breaks. He hangs in and pitches 7 to get in line for the win.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:33 PM
Patterson K's to end the inning. He's no Andy Phillips, that's for sure.

PuffyPig
09-22-2008, 04:34 PM
What is going on. Its now 7-4. I was gone for about 15 minutes?!

Nothing personal, but please stay away......

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:36 PM
Andy Phillips has an OPS of .991 in September.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:37 PM
Stormy is pitching the 8th.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:39 PM
Stormy pitches a 1-2-3 8th. 7-4 Reds after 7 1/2.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:40 PM
Nice inning by Weathers. How about some more runs?

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:42 PM
If the Reds hang on and win this game they'll finish 6-2 against a solid Marlins team this year.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:43 PM
Nice inning by Weathers. How about some more runs?

Andy can't bat every inning. ;)

Reds Freak
09-22-2008, 04:43 PM
If the Reds hang on and win this game they'll finish 6-2 against a solid Marlins team this year.

And it would complete a four game sweep of the Fish (with a couple month break between the third and fourth game of course)...

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:47 PM
Hairston with a two out single. His 3rd hit of the day.

Valentin pinch-hitting for Stormy.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:48 PM
A win would give the Reds a final home record of 43-38. Not bad.

Hairston singles with two outs.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:50 PM
And they're going to make Javy bat right-handed. Renyel Pinto comes in to pitch for Florida.

lollipopcurve
09-22-2008, 04:51 PM
Hairston with a two out single. His 3rd hit of the day.

Wait, isn't he supposed to be terrible? I demand regression!

I'd give him a guaranteed two years. The guy's valuable.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:52 PM
Javy K's swinging to end the inning. 7-4 Reds after eight.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:52 PM
Valentin got ahead 3-0 and ended up striking out. 7-4 Reds after eight innings.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:53 PM
Wait, isn't he supposed to be terrible? I demand regression!

I'd give him a guaranteed two years. The guy's valuable.

I don't know about two years but I wouldn't mind having him back for '09.

cumberlandreds
09-22-2008, 04:53 PM
Valentin K's to end the 8th. Coco in for another save.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:55 PM
I wouldn't give Hairston more than a one year deal. He shouldn't be viewed as a starter...maybe he could platoon with Dickerson in CF. Dickerson against RHP and Hairston against LHP.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:56 PM
Cordero walks John Baker to begin the 9th.

lollipopcurve
09-22-2008, 04:56 PM
I wouldn't give Hairston more than a one year deal.

Somebody will.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:57 PM
Somebody will.

Most likely.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:57 PM
That's the last thing you want to do - walk a guy with Hanley Ramirez coming up.

BRM
09-22-2008, 04:58 PM
Pinch-hitter Luis Gonzalez singles. Runners at the corners, none out.

CTA513
09-22-2008, 04:58 PM
Is Cody Ross available for the Marlins today?
He already has 2 homers off Cordero this season.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 04:58 PM
It looks like the bad Cordero showed up. Two of his six blown saves this year have come against the Marlins.

BRM
09-22-2008, 05:00 PM
A wild pitch allows Baker to score from 3rd. Runner now at 2nd, still no outs. 7-5 Reds.

PuffyPig
09-22-2008, 05:00 PM
While I'm getting ahead of myself here, a save by Cordero will give him a 33/39 this year, the same as Weathers had last year.

BRM
09-22-2008, 05:01 PM
Cordero K's Ramirez. One down. Cody Ross pinch-hitting for Hermida.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 05:02 PM
Oh great. Cody Ross is pinch hitting.

BRM
09-22-2008, 05:03 PM
Ross K's on three straight fastballs. Two outs. Cantu pinch-hitting for Helms.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 05:03 PM
Ross was only 3-for-5 with two homeruns and a double in his career vs Cordero before that strikeout.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 05:04 PM
Cantu pinch hits for Helms.

BRM
09-22-2008, 05:05 PM
Cantu grounds out to Kepp. Reds win 7-5.

lollipopcurve
09-22-2008, 05:05 PM
While I'm getting ahead of myself here, a save by Cordero will give him a 33/39 this year, the same as Weathers had last year.

And Weathers this year vs. the 8th inning last year?

Priceless.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 05:05 PM
Cantu grounds out. Reds win 7-5!

Sea Ray
09-22-2008, 05:06 PM
While I'm getting ahead of myself here, a save by Cordero will give him a 33/39 this year, the same as Weathers had last year.

That the Billy Beane theory. At the end of the day regardless of talent the save percentage doesn't vary too much.

Big Klu
09-22-2008, 05:09 PM
Votto homers to make it 4-1.


Votto is the man. #22 for Joey. 4-1 Marlins.

Votto's 22 homers are the most by a Reds rookie since Frank Robinson hit 38 in 1956.

PuffyPig
09-22-2008, 05:25 PM
Votto's 22 homers are the most by a Reds rookie since Frank Robinson hit 38 in 1956.

Let me be the first to say, let's trade him for Milt Pappas....

Spring~Fields
09-22-2008, 05:28 PM
I wouldn't give Hairston more than a one year deal. He shouldn't be viewed as a starter...maybe he could platoon with Dickerson in CF. Dickerson against RHP and Hairston against LHP.

You stand a chance of having Patterson and Hairston platooning next year, along with Bako and Hanigan.

PuffyPig
09-22-2008, 05:28 PM
That the Billy Beane theory. At the end of the day regardless of talent the save percentage doesn't vary too much.

But, as someone pointed out, obtaining Cordero has stengthen our whole bullpen. While our 9th inning save percentage has remained constant, we aren't blowing games in the 8th innings like we did last year.

When we lead after 7, we have lost only a handfull of games this year.

BRM
09-22-2008, 05:30 PM
You stand a chance of having Patterson and Hairston platooning next year, along with Bako and Hanigan.

That wouldn't surprise me either.

RedsManRick
09-22-2008, 05:36 PM
A bullpen 10 deep and Dusty feels the need to push Harang to 122 pitches and have Weathers set up. Again, maybe it's not "abuse", but it is a risk not worth taking. There's every reason in the world to give some meaningful innings to Roenicke, Herrera, and Masset. I guarantee that if Dusty was asked about letting Harang pitch the 7th, the phrase "get him a win" would be said. Misplaced priorities.

Big Klu
09-22-2008, 05:40 PM
You stand a chance of having Patterson and Hairston platooning next year, along with Bako and Hanigan.

I could see Bako coming back next year, but strictly as a backup to Hanigan. If Hanigan and Bako make up the catching corps next year, then Hanigan will clearly be the #1.

BCubb2003
09-22-2008, 05:43 PM
Let me be the first to say, let's trade him for Milt Pappas....

Would you trade Votto for Don Drysdale, Orel Hershiser, Catfish Hunter or Vida Blue?

I've never understood the similarity ratings at baseball-reference.com.

OnBaseMachine
09-22-2008, 05:47 PM
Bringing Paul Bako back next year will be indication the Reds aren't serious about winning. Paul Bako is about as worthless player as you can find.

BRM
09-22-2008, 05:48 PM
Bringing Paul Bako back next year will be indication the Reds aren't serious about winning. Paul Bako is about as worthless player as you can find.

He handles the pitching staff well.

PuffyPig
09-22-2008, 05:51 PM
Would you trade Votto for Don Drysdale, Orel Hershiser, Catfish Hunter or Vida Blue?




I'd want someone younger than those one. I would though, trade Valentin for a "bucket of catfish".

BRM
09-22-2008, 06:59 PM
I guarantee that if Dusty was asked about letting Harang pitch the 7th, the phrase "get him a win" would be said. Misplaced priorities.

You're close, RMR. Here's what Dusty said after the game.


“Been a long time since we scored Harang a lot of runs and they came just on time,” said manager Dusty Baker. “We extended him, left him in there (122 pitches) to get him a victory.

RedsManRick
09-22-2008, 09:57 PM
You're close, RMR. Here's what Dusty said after the game.

I swear I hadn't seen anything before posting that. Dusty is just that transparent.

Dusty allowed his ace SP to throw more than 120 pitches with the explicit intent of increasing his chances of accruing a meaningless stat. Meanwhile, said SP struggled with a mechanical flaw most of the year which made him extremely ineffective for long stretches. Said flaw manifested after he came back on short rest after throwing 60+ pitches in relief.

Now, I can't prove causality here any more than anybody else. And I'm not inside Dusty's head. But when people make fun of us "stat types", I can't help but wonder who would benefit most from getting their head out of the stat book and watching a game from time to time.

reds44
09-22-2008, 11:54 PM
Wait, isn't he supposed to be terrible? I demand regression!

I'd give him a guaranteed two years. The guy's valuable.
Wayne is that you?