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OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 04:47 PM
Lineup:

Jerry Hairston cf

Jeff Keppinger 2b

Joey Votto 1b

Edwin Encarnacion 3b

Jay Bruce rf

Jolbert Cabrera lf

Ryan Hanigan c

Paul Janish ss

Edinson Volquez p

v. LH Wandy Rodriguez

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 07:59 PM
Reds looking to add to their win total which has surpassed last season's

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:01 PM
Volquez enters tonight with 197 strikeouts on the season.

nate
09-23-2008, 08:03 PM
Chat for this exciting, late-season battle of the titans, is open!

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:04 PM
Hairston K's. Keppinger singles.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:06 PM
Votto triples to deep left! 1-0 Reds.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 08:07 PM
Votto just keeps on getting it done.

dougdirt
09-23-2008, 08:07 PM
Can you give an error on a ball that wasn't touched?

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 08:08 PM
That was ruled a 3 base error and no RBI. That's homerism BS

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:08 PM
Can you give an error on a ball that wasn't touched?

That ball should have been caught but he never touched it so I don't see how they can give him an error.

Degenerate39
09-23-2008, 08:09 PM
That was ruled a 3 base error and no RBI. That's homerism BS

That really is BS. That should be Votto's 80th RBI

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 08:09 PM
Official scorers really amaze me sometimes

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:10 PM
You can't charge a guy with an error for misplaying a flyball. They'll have to change that ruling.

EdE walks.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 08:12 PM
Bruce really struggles against leftys doesn't he>

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 08:14 PM
I wonder if that'll be ruled an error somehow...

Kc61
09-23-2008, 08:14 PM
Do you think Cabrera would agree to sign again, start at AAA, and then come up again when there's an injury? He's not a bad player, versatile, seems to hit lefties.

Knocks in a run there with a single.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:15 PM
Bruce really struggles against leftys doesn't he>

He crushed them in the minors. It seems like it takes lefty hitters a while to adjust to lefty pitchers. Josh Hamilton was awful against lefties last year (.588 OPS) but this year has a .821 OPS against LHP.

Cabrera singles to make it 2-0 Reds.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 08:16 PM
How old is Cabrera? I think he might have some offers on the ML level next year if he doesn't come back.

RedsManRick
09-23-2008, 08:16 PM
Hannigan grounds out to Rodriguez. I really his plate approach. He reminds me of a RH Scott Hatteberg.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:16 PM
Hanigan grounds out. 2-0 Reds after 1/2 innings. Rodriguez threw 30 pitches in the first inning.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:17 PM
How old is Cabrera? I think he might have some offers on the ML level next year if he doesn't come back.

He'll turn 36 in December.

RedsManRick
09-23-2008, 08:17 PM
How old is Cabrera? I think he might have some offers on the ML level next year if he doesn't come back.

He's 35. I imagine he'll find a spot on somebody's bench, if not ours.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 08:19 PM
That didn't take long...

RedsManRick
09-23-2008, 08:19 PM
A Minute Maid opposite field HR for Kaz Matsui. Just slapped it over the wall.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:19 PM
You can already tell Volquez is going to get rocked tonight. His first three pitches were all above the belt and Matsui made him pay with a homerun to left on a 0-2 pitch. You can just tell Volquez is worn out. These last few starts he hasn't been able to command anything and is constantly leaving the ball up in the zone. Hopefully this is his last start.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 08:21 PM
That's only 14 bombs in 188 2/3 innings...

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:21 PM
Bourn K's. #198 for Volquez.

RedsManRick
09-23-2008, 08:24 PM
Tejada slices one down the line which catches the wall and then bounces off the ball-boy on it's way to Bruce. No ruling from the ump on the matter and Tejada winds up at 2B.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:25 PM
Berkman K's.

#199 for Volquez.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 08:26 PM
Go sit, Berkman...

Kc61
09-23-2008, 08:26 PM
That's only 14 bombs in 188 2/3 innings...

Volquez was laughing after that homer, as if to say "how did that get out of the park?" Some mighty short and low fences in the NL Central.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:27 PM
2-1 Reds after one inning.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 08:28 PM
Janish is definitely a AAA hitter.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:30 PM
Janish is definitely not a major league hitter but I love that Dusty started him tonight with a groundball pitcher starting.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 08:30 PM
I thought the strikeouts would end when Dunn and Griffey were traded :).

MrCinatit
09-23-2008, 08:30 PM
Volquez was laughing after that homer, as if to say "how did that get out of the park?" Some mighty short and low fences in the NL Central.

Seriously - that was almost a pop up. That left field Minute Maid porch is a delicious target for fly ball guys.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:32 PM
This ballpark is funny. You can hit a routine flyball to left field for a home run and hit a 425 foot bomb to center field for a flyout.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 08:33 PM
1-2-3 inning by the Stros. 2-1 Reds in the middle of the 2nd.

RedsManRick
09-23-2008, 08:34 PM
Astros announcers discussing the likelihood that Hairston is more likely to be the .255 hitter he was in 2500+ AB prior to the 2008 season than the .330 hitter he's been in a few hundred AB this year. Imagine that, announcers who understand small samples sizes.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:39 PM
Pence pops out and Wigginton doubles on Volquez's 4th best pitch. Why? Stick to what works.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:41 PM
Ausmus K's.

Strikeout #200 for Volquez!

Kc61
09-23-2008, 08:42 PM
Volquez, even with all the innings, is throwing gas right now. Three out. 2-1 Reds after two.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:42 PM
Rodriguez grounds out. 2-1 Reds after two innings.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 08:44 PM
One good sign is the way the team is playing right now. In 2006 and 2007, they had losing records in September, but this year they are 12-7 and will clinch a winning September 2008 with a win tonight. Baby steps.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:45 PM
Keppinger lines a single to CF to open the third inning.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 08:46 PM
Votto with another hit...

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:47 PM
Votto is now a double and home run shy of the cycle.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 08:47 PM
Votto with another hit...

Let's trade him and get more pitching! :)

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:47 PM
EdE doubleplay. That kills a potential big inning.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 08:50 PM
Bruce clueless against WRod. Strike 3!

2-1 Reds after 2.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 08:54 PM
Bruce hitting .194 - .271 - .573 against lefthanders.

Platoon?

Kc61
09-23-2008, 08:54 PM
Bruce clueless against WRod. Strike 3!

2-1 Reds after 2.

Dusty, maybe Bruce should have rested another day. Sorry to interfere.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:54 PM
Bruce hitting .194 - .271 - .573 against lefthanders.

Platoon?

He's 21 years old. Josh Hamilton OPS'ed .588 against left handers last season.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:55 PM
Volquez gets two quick outs to begin the third inning.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 08:56 PM
Bruce hitting .194 - .271 - .573 against lefthanders.

Platoon?

Not at this point. He's still a 20 year old figuring out the big leagues.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 08:57 PM
Nice 1-2-3 third inning for Volquez. 2-1 Reds after three innings.

Kc61
09-23-2008, 09:01 PM
Just guessing but maybe Bruce's hand isn't quite right yet. I would have waited for a righty starter to use him again.

Jay Bruce is an everyday player, no platoons.

oneupper
09-23-2008, 09:02 PM
Aflac Question: REDS pitchers (2) with W/L pct over .825 in a season.

I was thinking Wayne Simpson...but his 14-3 in 1970 only is .823.

Seaver 1981?

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:03 PM
I was actually surprised to see Bruce in the lineup tonight. The way they talked yesterday it sounded like Bruce wouldn't return until the second or third game of this series.

Volquez looked safe at first base.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 09:04 PM
Browning? Jackson?

BCubb2003
09-23-2008, 09:07 PM
Aflac Question: REDS pitchers (2) with W/L pct over .825 in a season.

I was thinking Wayne Simpson...but his 14-3 in 1970 only is .823.

Seaver 1981?

Does it count if you look it up?

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:09 PM
Berkman K's on three pitches to begin the 4th.

#201 for Volquez.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 09:09 PM
Purkey at .821 in 1962

BCubb2003
09-23-2008, 09:11 PM
The Aflac question contains a riddle ...

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 09:11 PM
Volquez has a DEVASTATING change-up

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:11 PM
Blum K's. Two outs.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:13 PM
Volquez has a DEVASTATING change-up

It's the best in the game IMO. Cole Hamels and Johan Santana are up there, but Volquez's is the best I've seen.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 09:13 PM
Ks the side...and makes them look stupid while doing it

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:14 PM
Pence K's. Volquez K's the side. 2-1 Reds after four innings.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 09:14 PM
The Aflac question contains a riddle ...
A 1941 Riddle at that...

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:18 PM
Hairston pops out. Nice play by Berkman. Keppinger is 3-for-3 after another single.

PuffyPig
09-23-2008, 09:20 PM
You can already tell Volquez is going to get rocked tonight. His first three pitches were all above the belt and Matsui made him pay with a homerun to left on a 0-2 pitch. You can just tell Volquez is worn out.


He's just getting warmed up.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:22 PM
He's just getting warmed up.

He's still some innings to go but I've been amazed at how different he's looked since that first inning. He was constantly above the belt in the first inning. I honestly didn't expect him to pitch well tonight. Hopefully I didn't just jinx him.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:29 PM
Bruce is now 1-for-12 with 8 K's against Wandy Rodriguez. Some guys just have your number. I remember Scott Sullivan used to own Jeff Bagwell.

Kc61
09-23-2008, 09:30 PM
He's still some innings to go but I've been amazed at how different he's looked since that first inning. He was constantly above the belt in the first inning. I honestly didn't expect him to pitch well tonight. Hopefully I didn't just jinx him.

Volquez has thrown a lot this year, it's a legitimate concern that he might be out of gas. Doesn't appear so tonight, but it's still early.

Meanwhile, speaking of pitch counts, Johan Santana has 125 through 8 innings. Mets pen has struggled, team desperately needs a win, no way he's coming out despite a big lead. Great pitcher.

Tony Cloninger
09-23-2008, 09:31 PM
I really dislike this pitcher beacuse I feel like i could hit and I should not feel that way.

gm
09-23-2008, 09:32 PM
No way! There was not a Red's pitcher in 1905 named "Orval Overall"!

OMG it's true

http://www.baseball-reference.com/o/overaor01.shtml

Greatest.name.ever.

318 IP to get those 172 Ks

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:32 PM
Wigginton flies out to begin the 5th.

Kc61
09-23-2008, 09:33 PM
I really dislike this pitcher beacuse I feel like i could hit and I should not feel that way.

I've read all year how folks have trashed Baker's batting orders and I've seldom criticized them.

Until tonight.

Bruce is coming off hand injury, facing a lefty, no reason he should hit fifth. String some righty bats together, drop Bruce down to seventh if you must use him. He's been a rally killer so far tonight.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:33 PM
Volquez drills Ausmus to end his streak of nine in a row retired.

redsmetz
09-23-2008, 09:34 PM
Bruce is now 1-for-12 with 8 K's against Wandy Rodriguez. Some guys just have your number. I remember Scott Sullivan used to own Jeff Bagwell.

Holy Cow! It's like the Roy Oswalt in reverse - 0 for 24, Bagwell v. Sullivan with only six walks.

Tony Cloninger
09-23-2008, 09:34 PM
It would help bruce if he would not try to pull this guy and think up the middle or left......besides the fact he cannot catch up to his fastball he is dead meat against his breaing stuff beacuse of it.

BCubb2003
09-23-2008, 09:37 PM
No way! There was not a Red's pitcher in 1905 named "Orval Overall"!

OMG it's true

http://www.baseball-reference.com/o/overaor01.shtml

Greatest.name.ever.

318 IP to get those 172 Ks

I just learned the other day that there was a Reds pitcher named Miltiades Sergios (Gimpy) Pappastediodis

PuffyPig
09-23-2008, 09:39 PM
I've read all year how folks have trashed Baker's batting orders and I've seldom criticized them.

Until tonight.

Bruce is coming off hand injury, facing a lefty, no reason he should hit fifth. String some righty bats together, drop Bruce down to seventh if you must use him. He's been a rally killer so far tonight.

Baker can't win.

Bruce is our future.

He should not be sitting for tough matchups. He should be hitting in the middle of the lineup for years to come.

Many said Votto should sit against Sabathia as he was 0-9 against him. He got two hits.

Consider these learning AB's for Bruce.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:40 PM
2-1 Reds after five innings.

Tony Cloninger
09-23-2008, 09:41 PM
The Reds traded for a pitcher named Ozzie Osborne in the 70's.

Where is Noodles Hahn when you need him?

Doc. Scott
09-23-2008, 09:42 PM
No way! There was not a Red's pitcher in 1905 named "Orval Overall"!

OMG it's true

http://www.baseball-reference.com/o/overaor01.shtml

Greatest.name.ever.

318 IP to get those 172 Ks


Overall was much better known as a Cub pitcher.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:45 PM
Reds go in order. 2-1 Reds after 5 1/2.

VR
09-23-2008, 09:48 PM
Nice line so far tonight by Volquez. I did the quick math...and realized EV has a 4.90 ERA since June 26th....does that sound right?

BCubb2003
09-23-2008, 09:49 PM
Overall was much better known as a Cub pitcher.

Sadly, he never faced Emil "Hill Billy" Bildilli.

Kc61
09-23-2008, 09:49 PM
So the Mets do pull Santana after 125 pitches and bring in Pedro Feliciano to pitch the ninth. Cubs get two on with one out and now Feliciano is pulled.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 09:52 PM
I was out of the room but I looked on Gameday and saw where Matsui singled on a flyball to LF. Is that a ball a regular left fielder catches?

VR
09-23-2008, 09:59 PM
Merry Christmas EV. :thumbup:

dougdirt
09-23-2008, 10:01 PM
Nice line so far tonight by Volquez. I did the quick math...and realized EV has a 4.90 ERA since June 26th....does that sound right?

Yeah, it does.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:01 PM
2-1 Reds in the 7th.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:01 PM
Volquez K's. Hairston singles. Need to get some insurance runs.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:03 PM
Ty Wigginton, the worst outfielder ever, makes a nice running catch to rob Keppinger of extra bases and save a run. It always seems like the worst defensive players in baseball always make a web gem against the Reds.

Tony Cloninger
09-23-2008, 10:04 PM
It would really help if they could score some runs for EV......beacuse they have stopped doing that in many of his last starts......and now Greg Luzinski robs JK.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:04 PM
Votto homers! 4-1 Reds!

VR
09-23-2008, 10:05 PM
Replay on the way?

redsmetz
09-23-2008, 10:05 PM
Votto homers! 4-1 Reds!

Subject to review; first one for the Reds. Votto and Hatcher were both calling it. We shall see!

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:05 PM
What?!? They better replay that. That is a home run.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:06 PM
That's a home run. Watch them screw the Reds.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:07 PM
I just have a feeling they're going to get this wrong. It's definitely a home run.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:10 PM
Watch that seat move. The ball hit that seat.

Degenerate39
09-23-2008, 10:11 PM
Let's watch Baker for the next 20 minutes camera guy

BCubb2003
09-23-2008, 10:12 PM
I thought this wasn't supposed to take very long.

redsmetz
09-23-2008, 10:12 PM
Oh good heavens! What a joke.

Degenerate39
09-23-2008, 10:12 PM
Votto gets screwed again!

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:12 PM
LOL. The Reds get robbed. They rule it a single. Wow. Why even have replay if you're not going to get it right?

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:14 PM
Joey Votto should be 3-for-4 with a triple, single, home run and 3 RBI tonight.

VR
09-23-2008, 10:14 PM
Votto gets screwed again!

Hosed out of 6 bases and 3 ribbies tonight. Ouch.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:15 PM
Encarnacion flies out. The umpires cost the Reds two runs.

BuckeyeRedleg
09-23-2008, 10:16 PM
You watch it in a real motion and there is no question it hit a seat and is a HR.

Watch it in slow motion and it makes it harder to tell, but it obviosuly hit the top of the wall and then hit something to bopunce back in. Duh.

George Grande must have forgot what it looked like in real motion. LOL.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 10:16 PM
If the umps can't get it right with replay then let's not waste everybody's time with it

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:25 PM
If Lance Berkman hits that ball it's a home run.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:26 PM
Volquez throws a 1-2-3 7th inning with 2 K's.

7 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 9 K, 94 pitches.

Tony Cloninger
09-23-2008, 10:27 PM
I love how people talk about leaving the human element in sports......I agree....humans should be the ones playing but when you get stuff like this AND the fact I have said that they should have a machine calling balls and strikes....well you can take the human element away from officials any time and it will not be too soon.

That includes football and what constitutes PI ....or basketball and it's many non calls or phantom calls.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:28 PM
Bruce lines out sharply to begin the 8th inning.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:29 PM
This should be a comfortable 4-1 lead right now.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 10:30 PM
Marty says he saw the replay again, and thinks the umps got it right. I didn't see it in real time, so I guess I'll have to watch the news and be my own judge

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:31 PM
Marty says he saw the replay again, and thinks the umps got it right. I didn't see it in real time, so I guess I'll have to watch the news and be my own judge

Balls don't bounce off the very top of a wall and come shooting back into play on a line. That ball hit a seat behind the wall.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:37 PM
The weak hitter Newham singles to begin the 8th. Time to pull Volquez. Matsui and Tejada have hit him well tonight.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 10:37 PM
Volquez out...David Weathers to come in with a guy on second

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 10:38 PM
Nope....Bray

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:38 PM
Nevermind.

Tony Cloninger
09-23-2008, 10:38 PM
Always a crappy hitter to ruin the day....too bad.....EV could have finished at least this inning out with a couple of more runs for cushion.

CTA513
09-23-2008, 10:39 PM
Good game from Volquez and the only walk he allowed was an intentional walk to Berkman.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 10:40 PM
Cooper stays with the lefty to face Bray

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:40 PM
That missed call by the umps is looking huge right now. Volquez could have a 4-1 lead and could've stayed in to face another batter or two since he's got a reasonable pitch count.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 10:41 PM
Bray out...Weathers in

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:43 PM
Bray did his job. Two outs. Weathers vs Tejada... I don't like this matchup.

dougdirt
09-23-2008, 10:43 PM
That missed call by the umps is looking huge right now. Volquez could have a 4-1 lead and could've stayed in to face another batter or two since he's got a reasonable pitch count.

Lets not complain about Dusty pulling Volquez with a reasonable count after all of the complaining we have had lately with him being left in too long lol

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:44 PM
Lets not complain about Dusty pulling Volquez with a reasonable count after all of the complaining we have had lately with him being left in too long lol

Oh I agree with pulling Volquez there. That was a great move. I'm just saying if it was 4-1 Volquez could've probably stayed in for another batter or two if the lead was three runs instead of one.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 10:46 PM
Good ol' Iffy

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:46 PM
Weathers walks Tejada with Berkman on deck. Brilliant. This won't end well.

dougdirt
09-23-2008, 10:47 PM
Weathers walks Tejada with Berkman on deck. Brilliant. This won't end well.

In your FACE!

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 10:48 PM
He gets it done!

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:49 PM
Thank you Weathers for proving me wrong. 2-1 Reds after eight innings.

Volquez's final line: 7.1 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 9 K

Now up to 206 strikeouts on the season.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:50 PM
It would be nice if the Reds could get some insurance runs this inning. Just make sure you hit the ball over the train station in left field or else the umps may rule it a single.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:54 PM
I'm still amazed they missed that call. Do they really think a line drive can hit on top of a fence and ricochet back into the playing field on a line? On the rare occasion that a flyball hits on top of a wall the ball will usually bounce in the air and back onto the playing field.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 10:56 PM
Reds go in order in the 9th. 4-1, I mean 2-1 Reds after 8 1/2.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 10:57 PM
Finish this off, boys!

CTA513
09-23-2008, 11:01 PM
leadoff single then a stolen base

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 11:01 PM
This isn't starting off well...

dougdirt
09-23-2008, 11:02 PM
This run CANT score. I need a Volquez win in the worst kind of way on my fantasy team. I plan on winning the championship but am currently down 5-3-2 with a tie in the W department.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 11:02 PM
Pence K's.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 11:02 PM
He blows Pence away

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 11:05 PM
Double play!!!!!

dougdirt
09-23-2008, 11:05 PM
I almost just went on a stabbing rampage in Colerain TWP over that call. Good thing they got it right.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 11:06 PM
Nice job by Cordero. Thankfully that call didn't come back to hurt them. Volquez picks up win #17.

CTA513
09-23-2008, 11:06 PM
Volquez finally picks up his 17th win.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 11:07 PM
You know, you could watch the first inning of this game, fall asleep, and wake up about the time Weathers came on and not missed much of anything (except Joey getting robbed). Of course you'd have to live through the total nail-biting performance of Cordero each and every time he comes in, but it's a win.

Oh, my kingdom for some offense (and better umpires).

BTW, what good is instant replay if they don't have closeup camera angles? I mean, that shot they were using to determine the HR stunk. If that's the case, no call be ever be overturned. The NFL uses several camera angles and closeups, but in MLB, all you get is Fox's feed which usually is horrible.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 11:08 PM
That game had a little bit of everything

durl
09-23-2008, 11:09 PM
This team is just flat-out getting it done lately. Good pitching does wonders, doesn't it?

BuckeyeRedleg
09-23-2008, 11:09 PM
I'm still amazed they missed that call. Do they really think a line drive can hit on top of a fence and ricochet back into the playing field on a line? On the rare occasion that a flyball hits on top of a wall the ball will usually bounce in the air and back onto the playing field.

I agree. In real speed, it is obvious it hit a seat.

Well, at least it didn't matter.

Great win for the Reds.

VR
09-23-2008, 11:14 PM
8 of 11 (sub 3 earnie over that period), 16 of 23 for the Reds. I thank them for making my September a little more exciting than I thought it would be a month ago.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 11:15 PM
8 of 11 (sub 3 earnie over that period), 16 of 23 for the Reds. I thank them for making my September a little more exciting than I thought it would be a month ago.

Absolutely. This team has been fun to watch over the last month.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 11:21 PM
What an excellent start by Volquez. After watching him in the first inning I didn't think he had a chance to make it past five innings tonight. He wasn't commanding his pitches well and was constantly above the belt. After the first inning he settled down and had excellent command the rest of the night. This kid is going to be special.

Red in Chicago
09-23-2008, 11:22 PM
You know, you could watch the first inning of this game, fall asleep, and wake up about the time Weathers came on and not missed much of anything (except Joey getting robbed). Of course you'd have to live through the total nail-biting performance of Cordero each and every time he comes in, but it's a win.

Oh, my kingdom for some offense (and better umpires).

BTW, what good is instant replay if they don't have closeup camera angles? I mean, that shot they were using to determine the HR stunk. If that's the case, no call be ever be overturned. The NFL uses several camera angles and closeups, but in MLB, all you get is Fox's feed which usually is horrible.

I thought I saw a report that they were going to do this? Or is this something they'll put into play next year? Or, maybe I'm dreaming and never heard this at all:eek:

WVRedsFan
09-23-2008, 11:28 PM
What an excellent start by Volquez. After watching him in the first inning I didn't think he had a chance to make it past five innings tonight. He wasn't commanding his pitches well and was constantly above the belt. After the first inning he settled down and had excellent command the rest of the night. This kid is going to be special.

He already is, OBM. Let's just hope he can maintain his specialnace for many years. That's always a problem. Who would have thought that Harang would be 6-16 and Volquez 17-6? Strange.

Matt700wlw
09-23-2008, 11:30 PM
Saw the Votto 'single' on the news, and the only thing I can think of is that whatever replay the umps got a look at was from another game.

OnBaseMachine
09-23-2008, 11:30 PM
I predicted before the season that Volquez would be the Reds best starter by the end of the season. I truly believed that but I never expected him to be *this* good so soon.

Spring~Fields
09-24-2008, 12:04 AM
Absolutely. This team has fun to watch over the last month.

Yes they have.

Spring~Fields
09-24-2008, 12:12 AM
One good sign is the way the team is playing right now. In 2006 and 2007, they had losing records in September, but this year they are 12-7 and will clinch a winning September 2008 with a win tonight. Baby steps.

That's a good point that I hadn't thought of or noticed.

OnBaseMachine
09-24-2008, 12:52 AM
Wandy Rodriguez and Cecil Cooper on the "error" that should have been a triple for Votto:

Rodriguez, who said he thought it was hit, and Cooper didnít quite agree with Wiggintonís assessment.

ďI donít even know if that was an error, to be honest,Ē Cooper said. ďThatís a tough play. That ball is in the corner there. Itís a real tough error for Wiggy to get right there. I donít think it was an error, to be honest. Two runs you figure you got a chance.Ē

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6018887.html

reds44
09-24-2008, 02:16 AM
I really do not want to get excited for next season to get my hopes dashed again, but they are making it hard not to.

Topcat
09-24-2008, 05:53 AM
I really do not want to get excited for next season to get my hopes dashed again, but they are making it hard not to.


2 decent Bats 1 behind the plate and a Left fielder with pop this team can defintly rise. 1 area I wouldn't spend on is bullpen. Risk there and take chances on kids like Reonicke and Burton and Ramirez as a swing man in rotation.