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Playadlc
09-29-2008, 01:17 PM
While it is just a rumor at this point, this is pretty scary. I have heard this rumor a couple of times now.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/29/palmers-elbow-more-than-sore/

redsfanmia
09-29-2008, 02:08 PM
If its on Profootballtalk.com then I know its not true, the next thing they report that is true will be the first.

camisadelgolf
09-29-2008, 03:10 PM
I'm pretty sure this is true. He was my first round draft pick in one of my fantasy leagues. This has happened to me every year for the past four years (but usually it's before the third week).

BuckU
09-29-2008, 03:34 PM
Isn't Anthony Wright a free agent? He was decent in the backup role for Palmer a couple years ago and the we are running the same offense.

Might need to start looking at other options if this is more serious than we think.

Bip Roberts
09-29-2008, 03:52 PM
If its on Profootballtalk.com then I know its not true, the next thing they report that is true will be the first.

couldnt be farther from the truth

redsfanmia
09-29-2008, 04:48 PM
couldnt be farther from the truth

OK, Mike Florio is on a local show here once or twice a week and 95% of what comes out of his pie hole never happens. That website like to throw alot against the wall and see what sticks.

Bip Roberts
09-29-2008, 04:59 PM
Its rumors, but to say nothing he ever says happens is wrong.

Michael Young
09-29-2008, 05:31 PM
I'm pretty sure this is true. He was my first round draft pick in one of my fantasy leagues. This has happened to me every year for the past four years (but usually it's before the third week).

NEVER draft a qb in the first round (free advice)

Michael Young
09-29-2008, 05:33 PM
it might actually be a good thing to shelve carson for the rest of the season. avoid getting him killed and ensure that the bungles will get the #1 draft pick in next years draft.

why get carson killed for a season that is down the toilet anyway? i say have the surgery

Johnny Footstool
09-29-2008, 05:59 PM
http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=7115

No surgery, but he might not be ready for next week.

Michael Young
09-29-2008, 06:01 PM
the cowboys are going to be out for blood next week after losing to wash.

redsfanmia
09-29-2008, 07:37 PM
NEVER draft a qb in the first round (free advice)

I draft a quarterback early every year and I am usually near the top of the league. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

Stephenk29
09-29-2008, 09:05 PM
If Palmer really did need Tommy John, there is no way he would be able to play. The football would simply go no where. I don't think this is something you can simply play through.

camisadelgolf
09-30-2008, 03:44 AM
NEVER draft a qb in the first round (free advice)

In leagues with standard scoring systems, this is usually true, but it's a weird point system that makes quarterbacks very valuable. Besides, what if I drafted Tom Brady with my first pick last year?

Michael Young
09-30-2008, 04:02 AM
In leagues with standard scoring systems, this is usually true, but it's a weird point system that makes quarterbacks very valuable. Besides, what if I drafted Tom Brady with my first pick last year?

:D

then you would have been very fortunate.

wacky scoring systems could certainly make a difference. :)

most 'experts' agree that qb production is consistent enough league-wide to make drafting a qb in the 1st rd a bad idea (unless maybe you have the last pick in the 1st rd)

HotCorner
09-30-2008, 03:23 PM
:D

then you would have been very fortunate.

wacky scoring systems could certainly make a difference. :)

most 'experts' agree that qb production is consistent enough league-wide to make drafting a qb in the 1st rd a bad idea (unless maybe you have the last pick in the 1st rd)

Actually Tom Brady rated as a top 10 player prior this season and a 1st rnd lock. (Peyton Manning would have been if not for his offseason surgery.) The thought process is more teams are going to a two-back system thus reducing the fantasy value of several running backs. Subsequently it raises the draft value of higher scoring QB's.

Michael Young
09-30-2008, 04:49 PM
Actually Tom Brady rated as a top 10 player prior this season and a 1st rnd lock. (Peyton Manning would have been if not for his offseason surgery.) The thought process is more teams are going to a two-back system thus reducing the fantasy value of several running backs. Subsequently it raises the draft value of higher scoring QB's.

every mock draft i read showed brady being taken with one of the last picks in the 1st rd (as i said) b/c it was pretty much 'common knowledge' among the collective brain trusts that the chances of him coming close to his previous year totals were slim to none. just like peyton's season immediately following his record setting year

redsfanmia
10-03-2008, 07:41 PM
Its rumors, but to say nothing he ever says happens is wrong.

Oh did Florio and Profootballtalk.com nail this one or what? When is Carson's surgery schedule. This site is a joke.

Bip Roberts
10-03-2008, 07:48 PM
Oh did Florio and Profootballtalk.com nail this one or what? When is Carson's surgery schedule. This site is a joke.

I never said he was 100% correct. He speculates and post rumors.

You said he has never been right and thats completely wrong.

redsfanmia
10-04-2008, 05:00 PM
I never said he was 100% correct. He speculates and post rumors.

You said he has never been right and thats completely wrong.

I imagine if they throw enough stuff out there then eventually they will get one or two right but to take what this website says as any form of the truth or to pretend they have any inside sources is just foolish IMO.

Bip Roberts
10-24-2008, 10:17 PM
Florio might be right for the 1st time :D

Reds Fanatic
10-25-2008, 11:02 AM
Here is the update on Palmer. I understand he wants to wait to see if he can possibly play but the Bengals should tell him forget waiting 2 months get the surgery done now. This season is an absolute disaster anyway. Nothing is going to save it. Waiting is just going to delay the time he can start rehabbing and getting ready for next year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3662707


Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer is unlikely to play another game in the 2008 season but he will delay a decision on whether to have surgery to repair a "frayed" ligament in his right throwing elbow, sources told ESPN.

Palmer's injury is to one portion of the ulnar collateral ligament and he has been told that Tommy John surgery would repair the problem with positive results, the sources said. However, doctors have agreed that Palmer's conservative approach to such an operation is acceptable because the damage is more limited than what Carolina Panthers quarterback Jake Delhomme suffered a year ago when he had the surgery.

Despite the Bengals' 0-7 record going into a game at Houston, the team has no plans to place Palmer on injured reserve, which would officially end his season. Palmer has asked the Bengals to wait "around two months" before taking any action because, a source said, the quarterback "does not want to abandon the team until he's certain he can't play ...the win-loss record has nothing to do with it, believe it or not."

Neither the Bengals nor Palmer have a comment about the specifics of the injury and the plan.

Palmer has visited five specialists who have concluded the quarterback has a worrisome injury. The ulnar collateral ligament is a thick triangular band and sources say only one of the three portions of the ligament is frayed.

Palmer believes the pain in his arm is actually manageable but he has lost strength in his right hand, which has become a greater obstacle to throwing the football, the sources said.

Palmer also has consulted with at least two quarterbacks who have undergone Tommy John surgery -- Delhomme and former NFL quarterback Rob Johnson. However, Palmer discovered that both passers had considerably more damage than he has experienced.

Delhomme's surgery was almost a year ago, on Oct. 18, 2007, and he was participating in organized team activities in late spring and early summer. He has had no setbacks.

Sources say Palmer is using a timetable that would still allow him to have the surgery at the latest possible date, if necessary, and get back on the field by next summer, based on the opinions from doctors and Delhomme's comeback.

Palmer injured the arm in a Sept. 21 game against the New York Giants. He has played only once since -- against the Cowboys on Oct. 5 -- before he began seeking numerous medical opinions.

WMR
10-25-2008, 12:33 PM
It would be SO Bengals-esque to allow Palmer to wait two whole freaking months before having surgery in a season that is clearly down the toilet. "Management" (HAHA) needs to step in and place him on IR.

LoganBuck
10-25-2008, 02:46 PM
It would be SO Bengals-esque to allow Palmer to wait two whole freaking months before having surgery in a season that is clearly down the toilet. "Management" (HAHA) needs to step in and place him on IR.

Being a Bengals fan is equivalent to self mutilation.