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Michael Young
10-05-2008, 03:57 PM
ready for the biggest upset of the season, fellow ben-gal fans? :D

dougdirt
10-05-2008, 04:14 PM
well that was a GREAT start.

Michael Young
10-05-2008, 04:15 PM
well that was a GREAT start.

:laugh:

Playadlc
10-05-2008, 04:31 PM
I am not wasting my Sunday on these guys.

Seriously, this is just a horribly coached team. 4th and 4 sweep that goes for a touchdown?

Reds4Life
10-05-2008, 04:31 PM
Lookin' good, already 10-0 Dallas.

Slyder
10-05-2008, 04:32 PM
Could be worse... at least youre not the Texans choking away 17 pt leads with 5 minutes to go.

Playadlc
10-05-2008, 04:34 PM
Could be worse... at least youre not the Texans choking away 17 pt leads with 5 minutes to go.

The Texans are a much better football team than the Bengals.

dougdirt
10-05-2008, 04:36 PM
I am not wasting my Sunday on these guys.

Seriously, this is just a horribly coached team. 4th and 4 sweep that goes for a touchdown?

It was only a 33 yard TD run, I don't see the big deal.....

Hoosier Red
10-05-2008, 04:42 PM
Does any other team have 12 men in the huddle? That's embarrassing.

dougdirt
10-05-2008, 04:47 PM
Thankfully baseball is on. TBS guys, its so much better than anything you will see on CBS this afternoon.

Highlifeman21
10-05-2008, 04:53 PM
Thankfully baseball is on. TBS guys, its so much better than anything you will see on CBS this afternoon.

Dewayne Wise has a rag arm.

Playadlc
10-05-2008, 04:54 PM
I really hate sports right now. The Reds/Bengals suck, Indiana sucks...I just wonder if it is really worth it following these teams.

Hoosier Red
10-05-2008, 04:59 PM
I really hate sports right now. The Reds/Bengals suck, Indiana sucks...I just wonder if it is really worth it following these teams.

There's still something to play for. The Browns, Cubs, and Purdue losing. Don't despair.

Indianapolis barely escaped my Nelson list.

guttle11
10-05-2008, 05:00 PM
Two carries in and it's clear Benson is the best back on the team. Not exactly unseating LT or anything, but still.

BuckeyeRed27
10-05-2008, 05:35 PM
Wow that was a shameful holding call on TJ. Shameful.

Michael Young
10-05-2008, 05:36 PM
that holding call was absolute bs

Michael Young
10-05-2008, 05:36 PM
Wow that was a shameful holding call on TJ. Shameful.

absolutely pathetic

as if the cowgirls need any more help

:censored:

guttle11
10-05-2008, 05:37 PM
Wow, Carson. Time for surgery on that elbow. You got nothing.

Michael Young
10-05-2008, 05:38 PM
wow that bull* holding call totally changed the complexion of this game

:censored: :censored: :censored:

cincrazy
10-05-2008, 05:39 PM
wow that bull* holding call totally changed the complexion of this game

:censored: :censored: :censored:

Eh.... not really. We're going to lose regardless my friend :thumbup:

Michael Young
10-05-2008, 05:40 PM
Eh.... not really. We're going to lose regardless my friend :thumbup:

just saying... 17-10 is a lot different than 17-6.

guttle11
10-05-2008, 05:41 PM
I hate to be the guy to second guess everything, but why not go for it there? What does a FG really give you as an 0-4 team?

Wing it, IMO. You have absolutely nothing to lose.

cincrazy
10-05-2008, 05:43 PM
just saying... 17-10 is a lot different than 17-6.

I agree with you. But, IMO, it just would have made the final score look prettier, that's all. We are an atrocious football team, capable of beating MAYBE the Rams and Lions, and that's about it.

Michael Young
10-05-2008, 05:49 PM
I agree with you. But, IMO, it just would have made the final score look prettier, that's all. We are an atrocious football team, capable of beating MAYBE the Rams and Lions, and that's about it.

i agree, buddy. :(

i just can't stop looking for best-case scenarios for my bungles no matter how bad they screw the pooch

remdog
10-05-2008, 05:49 PM
I agree with you. But, IMO, it just would have made the final score look prettier, that's all. We are an atrocious football team, capable of beating MAYBE the Rams and Lions, and that's about it.

Are either of those teams on the Bengals schedule? I haven't looked but I'd guess not.

So, root for the Lions and Rams to win a game and the Bengals will probably get the #1 pick.....not that it will do Cincinnati any good as long as Mike is there but....:rolleyes:

Rem

GoReds33
10-05-2008, 06:09 PM
That was a good drive. The Bengals are back in it, 17-13.

Playadlc
10-05-2008, 06:12 PM
Palmer is getting a boatload of time to throw the football right now.

cincrazy
10-05-2008, 06:13 PM
Holy crap. This defies logic.

guttle11
10-05-2008, 06:14 PM
Pyhrric.

GoReds33
10-05-2008, 06:29 PM
Keith Rivers intercepts one, and the Bengals quickly drive down inside the 30. Johnson is selling the deep route, and Pacman can't recover.

guttle11
10-05-2008, 06:35 PM
Well, that's a bummer. Nice of the refs to miss an obvious tripping on the INT return.

Anyway, redszone offense is too predictable. It's going to TJ every play.

17-16...still a shot to win. Not punching these Romo mistakes in for TDs may just be the difference between a win and a loss today.

guttle11
10-05-2008, 06:36 PM
Onside...we got it!

Creativity from Marvin!!!!!!!!

guttle11
10-05-2008, 06:38 PM
Perry fumbles again. Dallas recovers.

That has to be it for him.

cincrazy
10-05-2008, 06:41 PM
Unbelievable

The more things change, the more things stay the same

Playadlc
10-05-2008, 06:46 PM
Chris Perry is an absolute joke. He has the worst yardage per run in the NFL, and he fumbles more than anyone in the NFL. Good combo.

guttle11
10-05-2008, 06:51 PM
Wow!

TD for TJ again. 24-22, going for 2...

cincrazy
10-05-2008, 06:51 PM
This team will not quit. If they can cash in here with the 2-point conversion, it's all tied up

guttle11
10-05-2008, 06:52 PM
A fade route to Utecht...incomplete.

Quite the call on that one, Brat.

Michael Young
10-05-2008, 06:52 PM
the bengals have played some ball today

Michael Young
10-05-2008, 06:53 PM
This team will not quit. If they can cash in here with the 2-point conversion, it's all tied up

:D see what i'm saying my friend

Playadlc
10-05-2008, 06:53 PM
A fade route to Utecht...incomplete.

Quite the call on that one, Brat.

I hate questioning play-calling, but what the heck was that?

guttle11
10-05-2008, 06:56 PM
I hate questioning play-calling, but what the heck was that?

My guess is that Brat thought he would outsmart the Cowboys thinking they'd put a LB or a very small corner on him wide? I don't know.

cincrazy
10-05-2008, 06:56 PM
:D see what i'm saying my friend

You were 100% correct :)

Playadlc
10-05-2008, 06:59 PM
Bengals will not get a stop here. They are worn down.

guttle11
10-05-2008, 07:01 PM
Try to hold them to a FG.

How nice would it be to have a guy like Felix Jones? Just toss it out, give him one block, and off he goes.

GAC
10-05-2008, 07:05 PM
I'll tell ya.... it's been hard to figure out this Bengals team.

They are putting in a really solid effort vs these Cowboys. I'm impressed. This is the second high caliber team (the other was the Giants) that they've played tough.

And I still say Romo is over-rated.

cincrazy
10-05-2008, 07:06 PM
I'll tell ya.... it's been hard to figure out this Bengals team.

They are putting in a really solid effort vs these Cowboys. I'm impressed. This is the second high caliber team (the other was the Giants) that they've played tough.

And I still say Romo is over-rated.

Also, they played the Ravens and Titans tough. They've played arguably four of the toughest teams in the league, and hung in there until the end against all of them. This team is maddening.

guttle11
10-05-2008, 07:08 PM
You have got to be kidding me. Nothing you can do about that. Dallas locks up a W on pure luck.

Playadlc
10-05-2008, 07:09 PM
You have got to be kidding me. Nothing you can do about that. Dallas locks up a W on pure luck.

The guy dropped a wide open pass, though. Just like in New York, the Bengals D can not get a key stop in the 4th quarter.

aerontg
10-05-2008, 07:11 PM
Will this be the end of Marvin? Something has to be said for the team 'playing tough', but moral victories don't count. I really think Marvin is suited for getting teams going in the right direction, but doesn't have that winning touch.

CTA513
10-05-2008, 07:12 PM
Chris Perry should be the Cowboys player of the game.
The Bengals had the momentum and Perry once again coughed up the ball.

guttle11
10-05-2008, 07:13 PM
The guy dropped a wide open pass, though. Just like in New York, the Bengals D can not get a key stop in the 4th quarter.

Did you expect them to? I was hoping for a Dallas mistake that lead to a FG. And they got one...just an unlucky break right after it.

Michael Young
10-05-2008, 07:13 PM
wow talk about a demoralizing performance :( :( :( :( :(

Playadlc
10-05-2008, 07:14 PM
Nice job in not calling a timeout there. Marvin is absolutely the worst clock-managing coach in the history of football.

Michael Young
10-05-2008, 07:15 PM
Nice job in not calling a timeout there. Marvin is absolutely the worst clock-managing coach in the history of football.

agreed :(

Playadlc
10-05-2008, 07:15 PM
0-5.

Marvin has to go.

aerontg
10-05-2008, 07:18 PM
0-5.

Marvin has to go.

Agreed. Nicely said.

Bip Roberts
10-05-2008, 07:20 PM
Benson looked pretty good

GAC
10-05-2008, 07:21 PM
Will this be the end of Marvin? Something has to be said for the team 'playing tough', but moral victories don't count. I really think Marvin is suited for getting teams going in the right direction, but doesn't have that winning touch.

Marvin will finish the season. Mike Brown will insure that.

Hoosier Red
10-05-2008, 07:24 PM
My guess is that Brat thought he would outsmart the Cowboys thinking they'd put a LB or a very small corner on him wide? I don't know.

I actually thought it was a good call. Probably would have preferred Henry there. You had one on one, the guy had to make a pretty good play.

CTA513
10-05-2008, 07:27 PM
0-5.

Marvin has to go.


You can fire him but nothing will change.

Tony Cloninger
10-05-2008, 07:59 PM
Brown does not fire coaches with contracts ......if he does it is a rare thing.

Marvin has until 2010 and Brown will blame injuries and tough breaks.....tough schedule....the Ox and carts......before he fires Marvin.

They are competing......that is what Mike likes. Not really winning all that much but at least competing.

guttle11
10-05-2008, 08:12 PM
Brown does not fire coaches with contracts ......if he does it is a rare thing.

Marvin has until 2010 and Brown will blame injuries and tough breaks.....tough schedule....the Ox and carts......before he fires Marvin.

They are competing......that is what Mike likes. Not really winning all that much but at least competing.

No, Mike likes sellout crowds, his sweet lease, and his full share of TV money. When one, two, or all of those is threatened, that's when he makes moves.

A failure to sell out the stadium with season tickets will spell the end of the Marvin Lewis era.

But to be honest, this single loss was not his fault. He made some nice calls and gave his inferior team every chance to win the game. They just came up a bit short. Marvin deserves blame for a lot of things, this game is not one of them.

Redsfaithful
10-05-2008, 10:47 PM
Mike Brown told Marvin Lewis this weekend that he could coach in Cincinnati as long as he wanted. He's not going anywhere.

And anyway, while he's not perfect, he's also not the problem in Cincinnati. The problem is the ownership for the past 18 years.

This team isn't very good this year, but they're also not one of the worst teams in the league. They'll probably catch a couple of good teams sleeping by the end of the year, but they'll still be picking in the top 5-10.

It's possible that Marvin saw this as a rebuilding year, and that's why all the surprising cuts were made before the season (Willie, Deltha, Rudi). He certainly knew the schedule was brutal. Hard to tell though.

Yachtzee
10-06-2008, 09:08 PM
Mike Brown told Marvin Lewis this weekend that he could coach in Cincinnati as long as he wanted. He's not going anywhere.

And anyway, while he's not perfect, he's also not the problem in Cincinnati. The problem is the ownership for the past 18 years.

This team isn't very good this year, but they're also not one of the worst teams in the league. They'll probably catch a couple of good teams sleeping by the end of the year, but they'll still be picking in the top 5-10.

It's possible that Marvin saw this as a rebuilding year, and that's why all the surprising cuts were made before the season (Willie, Deltha, Rudi). He certainly knew the schedule was brutal. Hard to tell though.

I'd be fine with Marvin sticking around if the Bengals changed their business model by hiring a GM, putting more money into scouting, and adding a "clock management" assistant to the coaching staff. If Marvin has one glaring flaw, it's poor clock management resulting in time running out on the Bengals. Unfortunately, I just don't see those changes being made until Mike Brown is no longer able to run day-to-day operations.

remdog
10-07-2008, 09:17 PM
I'd be fine with Marvin sticking around if the Bengals changed their business model by hiring a GM, putting more money into scouting, and adding a "clock management" assistant to the coaching staff. If Marvin has one glaring flaw, it's poor clock management resulting in time running out on the Bengals. Unfortunately, I just don't see those changes being made until Mike Brown is no longer able to run day-to-day operations.

Any reason why you think Katie would be any different?

Rem

Yachtzee
10-07-2008, 10:24 PM
Any reason why you think Katie would be any different?

Rem

Well, I'm not making the assumption that Katie will be running things when Mike Brown gives up day-to-day operations. I wonder if the Browns will be able to hold on to the team in the changing NFL economy. I think the days of owners expecting to run the team as their own family business are coming to a close.