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New Fever
10-23-2008, 02:41 PM
Yonder Alonso came in second in the Best Pure Hitter category. Juan Carlos Sulburban came in fifth in the Best Late Round pick category.

OnBaseMachine
10-23-2008, 04:35 PM
BA will be releasing the Reds draft report card on October 29th.

Screwball
10-25-2008, 01:51 PM
BA will be releasing the Reds draft report card on October 29th.

What did they get on last year's draft?

OnBaseMachine
10-25-2008, 02:18 PM
What did they get on last year's draft?

I don't think they actually gives grades, at least not anymore. They mostly just give a rundown of the best tools, best pro debut, and closest to the majors. IIRC, right after the draft Callis said he would take rank the Reds 2007 draft among the best in baseball.

New Fever
10-29-2008, 12:36 PM
The Reds Report Card came out today. The overview talked about how Alonso, Sulberan, and Fairel will determine how strong this draft will be. They also talked about how Sulberan sits in the 91-94 range and Cline touched 94 in instructs. Fairel has the best secondary stuff, but Sulberan has the potential to have the best. Most of the report card was about Sulberan.

OnBaseMachine
10-29-2008, 12:51 PM
Other interesting notes:

Yonder Alonso has the best combination of short swing, plate discipline, and strength in the 2008 draft.

21st rounder Theodis Bowe has been timed getting to first base in 3.9 seconds.

David Sappelt was rated the best defensive player drafted by the Reds. They say he's got the speed and arm strength to play an above average center field. They also say Alonso can play a smooth first base.

Zach Stewart's 96 mph fastball was the best in the Reds draft, but Sulbaran isn't far behind with his 91-94 mph heater. Tyler Cline was touching 94 in Instructional League. They also say Cline suffered a couple of freak injuries in Instructional League.

Byron Wiley is the best athlete among position players, while Zach Stewart is the best among pitchers.

Alonso is the closest to the majors with Stewart a close second.

They referred to Sulbaran and Fairel as intriguing arms and they hold the key to success in this draft. They like Sulbaran a lot.

OesterPoster
10-29-2008, 01:30 PM
Fairel is the one FSU expected back for another season, correct? Did we sign him above slot money?

lollipopcurve
10-29-2008, 01:33 PM
They referred to Sulbaran and Fairel as intriguing arms and they hold the key to success in this draft.

So, the draft class might be a failure if two late-round signs don't pan out? Talk about an amateur assessment....

dougdirt
10-29-2008, 01:37 PM
So, the draft class might be a failure if two late-round signs don't pan out? Talk about an amateur assessment....

I agree. Lets pretend its 5 years from now and Yonder Alonso and Zach Stewart turn out to be the only guys from the draft with a chance at the majors but both turn out to be average or better at their positions..... are they really trying to tell me that draft is a failure if it produces like that? I hope it works out better than that, but that certainly would not make it a failure at all.

New Fever
10-29-2008, 03:35 PM
So, the draft class might be a failure if two late-round signs don't pan out? Talk about an amateur assessment....

I think they were talking about how deep the class would be if those two panned out. They think highly of Sulberan and said he was the best starting pitcher the Reds drafted, so he's probably seen as a second round type to them.

camisadelgolf
10-29-2008, 03:50 PM
Fairel is the one FSU expected back for another season, correct? Did we sign him above slot money?

Matt Fairel signed for well above slot money ($250,000). That's about what a third or fourth rounder would get.

SMcGavin
10-29-2008, 04:00 PM
A lot of us have been calling for the Reds to throw money at the minor league system, instead of burning it on contracts to the Mike Stantons and Josh Foggs of the world. This year the front office started to do exactly that. It's really nice to see.

edabbs44
10-29-2008, 04:09 PM
A lot of us have been calling for the Reds to throw money at the minor league system, instead of burning it on contracts to the Mike Stantons and Josh Foggs of the world. This year the front office started to do exactly that. It's really nice to see.

I've been leading that charge and, while it was nice to see, they could have done a lot more on the draft side.

Plenty of big names drop and Cincy should be swooping in to catch them in the middle to later rounds.

icehole3
10-29-2008, 04:16 PM
Sappelt reminded me of Billy Hatcher and Wiley looked like a NFL linebacker and was hitting the ball very hard.

Mario-Rijo
10-29-2008, 04:17 PM
Other interesting notes:

Yonder Alonso has the best combination of short swing, plate discipline, and strength in the 2008 draft.

21st rounder Theodis Bowe has been timed getting to first base in 3.9 seconds.

David Sappelt was rated the best defensive player drafted by the Reds. They say he's got the speed and arm strength to play an above average center field. They also say Alonso can play a smooth first base.

Zach Stewart's 96 mph fastball was the best in the Reds draft, but Sulbaran isn't far behind with his 91-94 mph heater. Tyler Cline was touching 94 in Instructional League. They also say Cline suffered a couple of freak injuries in Instructional League.

Byron Wiley is the best athlete among position players, while Zach Stewart is the best among pitchers.

Alonso is the closest to the majors with Stewart a close second.

They referred to Sulbaran and Fairel as intriguing arms and they hold the key to success in this draft. They like Sulbaran a lot.

I do like Sappelt also. He also has a little pop in his bat but needs to work on making better contact and improve his plate discipline of course. He's fringy at best right now but could be a solid contributor if he gets his offense refined.

camisadelgolf
10-29-2008, 04:34 PM
Dave Sappelt = a rich man's Chris Heisey in my opinion. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do.

klw
10-29-2008, 05:25 PM
Based on this thread Juan Carlos Sulbaran is the clear favorite for the Javier Valentin Award for most misspelled name. :D

Orenda
10-29-2008, 10:06 PM
Dave Sappelt = a rich man's Chris Heisey in my opinion. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do.

so does that mean he's a poor man's drew stubbs?

Screwball
10-30-2008, 06:18 AM
Based on this thread Juan Carlos Sulbaran is the clear favorite for the Javier Valentin Award for most misspelled name. :D

I thought it was Valentine, klew? :confused:

camisadelgolf
10-30-2008, 07:56 AM
so does that mean he's a poor man's drew stubbs?

Haha. Yeah, I guess that's one way of saying it. It doesn't mean that any of them are better than the others, though.