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OnBaseMachine
11-24-2008, 11:32 PM
Redszone's Top Prospects

Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso
Prospect #2 - Todd Frazier
Prospect #3 - Neftali Soto
Prospect #4 - Drew Stubbs
Prospect #5 - Chris Valaika
Prospect #6 - Kyle Lotzkar
Prospect #7 - Daryl Thompson
Prospect #8 - Juan Francisco
Prospect #9 - Juan Duran
Prospect #10 - Chris Dickerson
Prospect #11 - Devin Mesoraco
Prospect #12 - Danny Dorn
Prospect #13 - Yorman Rodriguez
Prospect #14 - Zach Stewart
Prospect #15 - Josh Roenicke
Prospect #16 - Ramon Ramirez
Prospect #17 - Zach Cozart
Prospect #18 - Matt Maloney

OnBaseMachine
11-24-2008, 11:38 PM
I went with Carlos Fisher again.

I added Ismael Guillon to the list. I also plan on adding others like Junior Arias and Mace Thurman sometime in the next few polls, probably around #23-#25. I don't wanna add too many right now because we have 21 prospects currently on the board, and four or five of them aren't receiving votes.

Mario-Rijo
11-25-2008, 12:07 AM
I went with Carlos Fisher again.

I added Ismael Guillon to the list. I also plan on adding others like Junior Arias and Mace Thurman sometime in the next few polls, probably around #23-#25. I don't wanna add too many right now because we have 21 prospects currently on the board, and four or five of them aren't receiving votes.

Carlos Fisher here again also.

AmarilloRed
11-25-2008, 12:46 AM
Voted Carlos Fisher again for the third time.

mace
11-25-2008, 01:35 AM
It's about time Hanigan made a move. Actually, past time, in my view. Love that guy.

mth123
11-25-2008, 05:42 AM
Heisey.

TRF
11-25-2008, 09:09 AM
I like Alex Buchholz here.

RedlegJake
11-25-2008, 09:18 AM
Dickerson and Hanigan are guys I don't even consider as prospects anymore. Technically they are but at this point they either are or aren't big leaguers. Once again I voted Buchholz.

Redman15
11-25-2008, 10:11 AM
Turner again. All he has done since being drafted is hit. He was one of Top 20 hitters in the Arizona Fall league with a .337 average.

klw
11-25-2008, 10:29 AM
Rob Manuel was AA reliever of the year. That gets my vote though I am flip flopping between him and Sulbaran. Having some decent players still on the board is a good thing.

JayBruceFan
11-25-2008, 10:38 AM
Chris Heisey

Best position player on the board

Edd Roush
11-25-2008, 12:10 PM
Ryan Hanigan here.

I don't understand why there isn't more love for a near league average catcher ready to contribute next year. If he produces next year, we get rid of a glaring black hole.

BRM
11-25-2008, 12:22 PM
Ryan Hanigan here.

I don't understand why there isn't more love for a near league average catcher ready to contribute next year. If he produces next year, we get rid of a glaring black hole.

My guess is because quite don't view him as league average. He's viewed as a decent backup catcher. That's not going to generate any love on a prospect list.

JayBruceFan
11-25-2008, 12:39 PM
I don't know about you guys but Im not too high on undrafted catchers that keep getting lucky

OnBaseMachine
11-25-2008, 12:40 PM
I don't know about you guys but Im not too high on undrafted catchers that keep getting lucky

Lucky?

JayBruceFan
11-25-2008, 12:43 PM
There is no way someone like him should be able to keep playing as well as he has played as a non drafted free agent from some no name college

He is breaking the norm


Thats what I meant

RED VAN HOT
11-25-2008, 12:45 PM
Heisey again for me too.

I am nearly as high on him as JayBruceFan.

SMcGavin
11-25-2008, 01:33 PM
Jeremy Horst 2007, Billings: 11.5 K/9, 4.9 B/9, 48.0% GB%
Jeremy Horst 2008, Dayton: 9.7 K/9, 2.9 BB/9, 52.9% GB%

He's a 6'4" lefty without overpowering stuff, but gets results. Reminds me of Matt Maloney v2.0, except with ground ball tendencies. I'd like to see him moved up to AA if he has a good couple of months in Sarasota. He'll be 23 next year, let's see what he can do against better competition, because he was flat out dominant in Dayton.

OnBaseMachine
11-25-2008, 01:37 PM
Shooter, I get feeling you like big lefties. :) I like Horst a lot too, but I probably won't vote for him until around 23. I plan on voting for Dallas Beck next if Fisher wins this poll.

SMcGavin
11-25-2008, 02:28 PM
Shooter, I get feeling you like big lefties. :) I like Horst a lot too, but I probably won't vote for him until around 23. I plan on voting for Dallas Beck next if Fisher wins this poll.

Haha, being a big pitcher doesn't hurt but mostly I just like guys who have lots of strikeouts and at least acceptable control. It will be interesting to see how Horst does moving up, as he was probably a little too advanced to need a whole year in Dayton.

GOYA
11-25-2008, 06:31 PM
I've been voting Hanigan for a while now. I think he's going to make more of an impact than several who are already voted on the list. Fisher will be a good ML reliever and Hanigan will be a good ML catcher. That's no contest.

dougdirt
11-25-2008, 07:22 PM
I've been voting Hanigan for a while now. I think he's going to make more of an impact than several who are already voted on the list. Fisher will be a good ML reliever and Hanigan will be a good ML catcher. That's no contest.

Hanigan may only last for two or three years though, while Fisher might last 10+.

REDblooded
11-26-2008, 01:29 AM
sulbaran all day...... most upside IMO

RedlegJake
11-26-2008, 11:33 AM
Undrafted no college at all Mike Piazza says hi.

Where a guy was drafted and where he hails from means squat-diddly once his career begins. High picks get early love but they still need to produce. Low picks and undrafted guys usually take longer simply getting recognized as serious prospects. Knocking Hanigan at this point because he wasn't originally drafted is silly - really, really silly. All he's done in two brief stints in the majors and a long look at AAA is play good defense, provide a good OBP, and make the most of his abilities rather than trying to be something he's not. I don't vote Hanigan simply because I no longer see him as a prospect. If he isn't the Reds catcher, either backup or full time, then he's done for all intents and purposes. IMO, he's a better than average defensive catcher, and offensively - he's league average what he gains in a good OBP he gives up with low slugging but his OPS will still put him in the middle of the pack in 2009. As Doug noted, he's good for 2-3 years, an excellent backup, a workable 2/3rds of the games starter. The only point I think he slips a lot is if he has to catch 125 games or more. Keep him between 80-120 starts and I think he's solid.

camisadelgolf
11-26-2008, 11:57 AM
Mike Piazza was drafted, but it was only as a favor.

GOYA
11-26-2008, 05:18 PM
Doug and Jake, why do you expect only 3 years max out of Hanigan?

dougdirt
11-26-2008, 05:23 PM
Doug and Jake, why do you expect only 3 years max out of Hanigan?

I don't see 3 years max, I just don't see him keeping a starting job for more than that because he isn't ever going to light up the league and he fits the ideal backup role much better than he does the starting role and given he is going to likely get his first real MLB time at age 28, it doesn't project well that he gets a whole lot of time as a starter.

RedlegJake
11-26-2008, 10:18 PM
Yeah, as Doug says, I think he'll have a longer career overall but his best years for starting are already shortened because he's older coming in - he's an ideal backup - I think he can be workable as a primary catcher if he has a catcher who can spot him 50- or so starts a year but he'll always be eyed as a target for an upgrade just for his lack of power as much as anything.

Redfan2
11-26-2008, 10:56 PM
Turner's my vote, performance means more to me than speculation!:bash: And Turner has done nothing less than perform!

JayBruceFan
11-26-2008, 11:08 PM
That is my thinking with Heisey


Gotta love speculation over actual performance