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mth123
11-26-2008, 02:56 AM
For the heck of it, I have some of the more advanced guys from the high minors shown in the table below. It looks to me like we seriously undervalue Adam Rosales, and Danny Dorn may be ready by mid-season. This team could have a couple options that could help w/o waiting for Alonso/Frazier/Soto/Francisco to arrive. I included some of the current players minor league numbers for some perspective.




Name Age AB BA OBP SLG OPS
Adam Rosales 25 1553 0.285 0.360 0.484 0.844
Chris Valaika 23 1306 0.306 0.357 0.467 0.824
Justin Turner 24 1133 0.310 0.377 0.445 0.822
Paul Janish 26 1703 0.261 0.351 0.382 0.733


Jeff Keppinger N/A 2183 0.322 0.375 0.422 0.797
Edwin Encarnacion N/A 2423 0.291 0.352 0.451 0.803
Brandon Phillips N/A 2755 0.274 0.339 0.418 0.757
Alex Gonzalez N/A 1234 0.267 0.320 0.414 0.734

Ryan Freel N/A 2769 0.269 0.360 0.397 0.757
Joey Votto N/A 2553 0.289 0.385 0.476 0.861
Jay Bruce N/A 1341 0.308 0.366 0.555 0.921
Chris Dickerson N/A 2202 0.260 0.363 0.415 0.778
Norris Hopper N/A 3431 0.289 0.343 0.335 0.678

Danny Dorn 24 990 0.297 0.387 0.528 0.915
Sean Henry 23 1512 0.280 0.355 0.444 0.799
Drew Stubbs 24 1177 0.269 0.367 0.415 0.782
Shaun Cumberland 24 2241 0.270 0.331 0.400 0.731
Chris Heisey 24 1174 0.292 0.366 0.435 0.801

schmidty622
11-26-2008, 08:10 AM
Well Danny Dorn and Adam Rosales should be on the team. Other than that I don't see much to get pumped up about this year in terms of guys coming up.

If Edwin were to move to left, Dorn would make a real nice platoon mate.

mth123
11-26-2008, 08:26 AM
Well Danny Dorn and Adam Rosales should be on the team. Other than that I don't see much to get pumped up about this year in terms of guys coming up.

If Edwin were to move to left, Dorn would make a real nice platoon mate.

I don't think that Dorn is on the team and Rosales is pretty iffy.

RedlegJake
11-26-2008, 12:41 PM
I'd be shocked if Dorn makes the team this year. Maybe a callup with a good season. Rosales depends on who they keep as far roster makeup, whether Hairston signs, Freel's healthy, Richar and Kepp aren't traded and are healthy etc.

Mario-Rijo
11-26-2008, 12:41 PM
I don't think that Dorn is on the team and Rosales is pretty iffy.

Huh, what was the point of your initial post then? Or did I just miss something here?

mth123
11-26-2008, 01:26 PM
Huh, what was the point of your initial post then? Or did I just miss something here?

My point is that maybe they should be considered instead of trading a bunch of stuff for corner players. My second post was in response to a poster who seemed to suggest that those guys being on the roster was a foregone conclusion. I don't think the organization agrees.

I think the team is going to deal a lot of its flexability in pursuit of corner players when the team already has them coming out its ears. What will be left to address the real needs up the middle or in the rotation?

schmidty622
11-26-2008, 02:51 PM
My point is that maybe they should be considered instead of trading a bunch of stuff for corner players. My second post was in response to a poster who seemed to suggest that those guys being on the roster was a foregone conclusion. I don't think the organization agrees.

I think the team is going to deal a lot of its flexability in pursuit of corner players when the team already has them coming out its ears. What will be left to address the real needs up the middle or in the rotation?

I guess that depends on your definition of should. If you think should means that it will defiantly happen then sure. I have a different definition in mind.

In the scenario that you proposed with the players that you provided I picked two that I thought should be on the team above the rest of the provided players.

Mario-Rijo
11-26-2008, 03:03 PM
My point is that maybe they should be considered instead of trading a bunch of stuff for corner players. My second post was in response to a poster who seemed to suggest that those guys being on the roster was a foregone conclusion. I don't think the organization agrees.

I think the team is going to deal a lot of its flexability in pursuit of corner players when the team already has them coming out its ears. What will be left to address the real needs up the middle or in the rotation?

Ok then I sort of agree with you. Here's the thing though it's not the position it's the bat they would be paying for. The most generous expectations don't give us a true 3-4-5 hitter currently. I know there are other ways to go about it and I would if at all possible. But I think the organization is determined to make a deal for that bat.

mth123
11-26-2008, 03:04 PM
I guess that depends on your definition of should. If you think should means that it will defiantly happen then sure. I have a different definition in mind.

In the scenario that you proposed with the players that you provided I picked two that I thought should be on the team above the rest of the provided players.

I agree with you. No problems. I thought you were saying that it was a done deal.:thumbup:

Guess I need less Redszone and more sleep.