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Lockdwn11
12-07-2008, 05:56 PM
The Braves are said to be interested in Rafael Furcal and maybe looking to trade Yunel Escobar. If this is truely the case The Reds should be all over this! I'm not one for trading away pitching but in this case I would be willing.

The Braves have had interest in Bronson Arroyo in the past. What do you think it would take to get Escobar from the Braves?

BEETTLEBUG
12-07-2008, 06:00 PM
Bronson and Majic Man

Bip Roberts
12-07-2008, 06:33 PM
Wasnt there rumors like 2 years ago about a Bronson for Escobar deal?

BEETTLEBUG
12-07-2008, 06:37 PM
I don't remember if there was.

Lockdwn11
12-07-2008, 06:41 PM
Wasnt there rumors like 2 years ago about a Bronson for Escobar deal?

See thats the thing.... If it is true and there was a offer like this,WHY ISN'T Yunel Escobar A RED ALREADY!

Bip Roberts
12-07-2008, 06:45 PM
it was 2 years ago and the Reds had no pitching

TC81190
12-07-2008, 06:52 PM
Somebody here said that since they traded Lillibridge, dealing Escobar wouldn't be likely, but I guess if they sign Furcal, it could make sense.

Lockdwn11
12-07-2008, 06:53 PM
it was 2 years ago and the Reds had no pitching

Your right but if they really are shopping him why isn't there a buzz. Is there something I don't know about Escobar that is keeping teams looking for SS help away?


Heres a link

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/29743

Bip Roberts
12-07-2008, 06:56 PM
Your right but if they really are shopping him why isn't there a buzz. Is there something I don't know about Escobar that is keeping teams looking for SS help away?

Because they arent shopping him but hes probably their best chip.

Fred Norman
12-07-2008, 07:02 PM
I hope we don't deal Bronson. I know you need to give up talent to get talent, but I hate giving up pitching. We have made the move towards pitching and defense,and even though we may need a ss I don't want to give up pitching to get it.

Lockdwn11
12-07-2008, 07:06 PM
Because they arent shopping him but hes probably their best chip.

Heres another link. It says the Cardinals and Royals have expressed interest in Escobar but nothing from the Reds. It's a little old Dec.1 so I'm sure the Cards are out.



http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/rafael-furcal-r.html

Bip Roberts
12-07-2008, 07:11 PM
Id dump Arroyo for Escobar mainly because of salary

Lockdwn11
12-07-2008, 07:22 PM
I would too and then I would try and turn around and trade EE to SF for J. Sanchez, trade Juan Francisco and a C prospect(if this would do it) to Seattle for A. Beltre and sign Juan Rivera to a two year deal.

Bip Roberts
12-07-2008, 07:47 PM
I think EE is worth more than Sanchez. EE was our 2nd best OPS last season.

Lockdwn11
12-07-2008, 07:56 PM
I think EE is worth more than Sanchez. EE was our 2nd best OPS last season.

If EE had a better glove I would agree with you.

Bip Roberts
12-07-2008, 07:57 PM
If EE had a better glove I would agree with you.

I have trouble giving up on him because of his bad throws. Trading someone at 25 years old because of 1 flaw in his game seems like a bad idea to me.

757690
12-07-2008, 08:31 PM
I would too and then I would try and turn around and trade EE to SF for J. Sanchez, trade Juan Francisco and a C prospect(if this would do it) to Seattle for A. Beltre and sign Juan Rivera to a two year deal.

I like that plan. The Reds get a solid SS, a solid defensive 3B who can hit at least as good as EE, and a solid RH bat for LF, all for EE, some prospects and some cash. Rivera would be the best deal of all the RH LF available, probably a 2 year $10M contract, and he most likely will put up numbers very similar to Dye or the other options. Also Sanchez has more upside than Arroyo and is a lot cheaper.
Quick, email this to Walt!

redsfandan
12-08-2008, 08:41 AM
atlanta would've dealt escobar in a deal for peavy. arroyo is no peavy. all i've seen that's new is that cleveland may have an interest in furcal with the idea that he would be their ss and peralta could be moved to 3rd.

Bip Roberts
12-08-2008, 10:01 AM
atlanta would've dealt escobar in a deal for peavy. arroyo is no peavy. all i've seen that's new is that cleveland may have an interest in furcal with the idea that he would be their ss and peralta could be moved to 3rd.

Escobar was just a piece of the deal for peavy.

Jim
12-08-2008, 11:37 AM
I have trouble giving up on him because of his bad throws. Trading someone at 25 years old because of 1 flaw in his game seems like a bad idea to me.

Can't we just send EE to fielding training? Like 20 hours/day until ST?! I'd like to keep EE and can definitely see him improving with practice.

redsfandan
12-08-2008, 11:45 AM
Escobar was just a piece of the deal for peavy.

that's true but so is my point that arroyo isn't on the same par with peavy. why would they trade someone like escobar for a sp that's no better than FA sp's that they wouldn't have to trade for?