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OnBaseMachine
12-08-2008, 01:49 PM
Redszone's Top Prospects

Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso
Prospect #2 - Todd Frazier
Prospect #3 - Neftali Soto
Prospect #4 - Drew Stubbs
Prospect #5 - Chris Valaika
Prospect #6 - Kyle Lotzkar
Prospect #7 - Daryl Thompson
Prospect #8 - Juan Francisco
Prospect #9 - Juan Duran
Prospect #10 - Chris Dickerson
Prospect #11 - Devin Mesoraco
Prospect #12 - Danny Dorn
Prospect #13 - Yorman Rodriguez
Prospect #14 - Zach Stewart
Prospect #15 - Josh Roenicke
Prospect #16 - Ramon Ramirez
Prospect #17 - Zach Cozart
Prospect #18 - Matt Maloney
Prospect #19 - Carlos Fisher
Prospect #20 - Chris Heisey
Prospect #21 - Ryan Hanigan
Prospect #22 - Dallas Buck
Prospect #23 - Justin Turner
Prospect #24 - Adam Rosales

OnBaseMachine
12-08-2008, 01:58 PM
I'm gonna make a switcheroo. In my own top 40 I had Pedro Viola one spot ahead of Jeremy Horst but I'm going to flipflop them and put Horst one spot ahead of Viola. I like Viola a lot but Horst had a great season.

*BaseClogger*
12-08-2008, 02:23 PM
Yeah, and Horst has better starting pitcher potential.

I'm going with Travis Wood as my lefty though...

camisadelgolf
12-08-2008, 02:36 PM
If I'm going with a left-handed pitcher, and I might, here's my order:
Travis Wood
Ismael Guillon
Jeremy Horst
Pedro Viola
Mace Thurman
Danny Ray Herrera
Ben Jukich
Phil Valiquette

*BaseClogger*
12-08-2008, 02:53 PM
Golf shirt,

Tell me more about Mace Thurman...

mace
12-08-2008, 03:37 PM
I'm gonna make a switcheroo. In my own top 40 I had Pedro Viola one spot ahead of Jeremy Horst but I'm going to flipflop them and put Horst one spot ahead of Viola. I like Viola a lot but Horst had a great season.

Finally, an ally. You, me and redsof72 (if he's voting here). Plus maybe one more and whoever jumps on board.

mace
12-08-2008, 03:41 PM
Can somebody catch me up on Carter Morrison? I see that he was drafted out of Canada, but that's all I know. To make this list, he must have a little more going for him than the garden-variety 16th-round draft choice.

OnBaseMachine
12-08-2008, 04:02 PM
Morrison is a 5-tool outfielder who fell because of signability issues, IIRC. Baseball America seems to be pretty high on his tools.

mace
12-08-2008, 04:17 PM
Thanks. Maybe he can be swapped for Ryan Zimmerman.

AmarilloRed
12-08-2008, 05:09 PM
I'm going to keep voting for Alex Buchholz until someone agrees with me:D

camisadelgolf
12-08-2008, 05:19 PM
Golf shirt,

Tell me more about Mace Thurman...

Mace Thurman is listed at 6'2" 185 lbs., so he's got a little room to fill out. He was drafted out of Baylor in the 19th round, but he signed for about 6th round money. After the draft, he started the season at Billings, where he was lights out and quickly earned a promotion to Dayton. At Dayton, he got roughed up in a few outings, but I think part of that was bad luck resulting from a high BABIP. Overall, though, his numbers across the two leagues were excellent. He had 45 strikeouts to 14 walks in 33.1 innings pitched, and hitters hit just .171 against him. Toward the end of the year, he was pitcher of the week in the Midwest League after he threw seven scoreless innings with 11 strikeouts, no walks, and two hits allowed. One thing that I found interesting was that the Reds were stretching him out in Dayton. Instead of one-inning outings, he was throwing a lot of three-plus-inning outings. I saw him once at Dayton, and I'm no scout, but it seemed like he threw a quality fastball, changeup, and slider.

*BaseClogger*
12-08-2008, 06:30 PM
Mace Thurman is listed at 6'2" 185 lbs., so he's got a little room to fill out. He was drafted out of Baylor in the 19th round, but he signed for about 6th round money. After the draft, he started the season at Billings, where he was lights out and quickly earned a promotion to Dayton. At Dayton, he got roughed up in a few outings, but I think part of that was bad luck resulting from a high BABIP. Overall, though, his numbers across the two leagues were excellent. He had 45 strikeouts to 14 walks in 33.1 innings pitched, and hitters hit just .171 against him. Toward the end of the year, he was pitcher of the week in the Midwest League after he threw seven scoreless innings with 11 strikeouts, no walks, and two hits allowed. One thing that I found interesting was that the Reds were stretching him out in Dayton. Instead of one-inning outings, he was throwing a lot of three-plus-inning outings. I saw him once at Dayton, and I'm no scout, but it seemed like he threw a quality fastball, changeup, and slider.

Thanks. Any idea how hard he throws?

icehole3
12-08-2008, 06:37 PM
Ive seen Thurman twice, he reminds me of a left handed Weathers, lots of junk and tries to sneak the fastball in there.

RED VAN HOT
12-08-2008, 08:49 PM
Can someone make the case for Travis Wood? This is one of those times that statistics alone are letting me down. After his first two years he would have been a top five prospect. Since then, his H/9, BB/9, ERA and BAA are trending up. His K/9 is trending down. Left handers hit him better than righties. IIRC, he was a picture of inconsistency at AA. He had a couple of masterful games and some that were at best awful. Also, his low IP in 2007 suggest an injury. Did he lose something off his fastball and is now developing other pitches? At 21, did he simply move up too rapidly?

mace
12-08-2008, 10:53 PM
I'd like to request that David Sappelt be added soon. I'm not ready to vote for him yet, but I'd be interested to see if somebody is.

camisadelgolf
12-09-2008, 05:24 AM
I'd like to request that David Sappelt be added soon. I'm not ready to vote for him yet, but I'd be interested to see if somebody is.

Fwiw, I like him better than Chris Heisey.

mace
12-09-2008, 02:06 PM
After Buchholz, there appears to be an interesting split between starting pitchers: Wood 11, Sulbaran 7, Hildenbrandt 6, Viola 6, Horst (hint hint) 5, Lecure 4.

BuckeyeRedleg
12-09-2008, 06:31 PM
So with Turner being dealt, Rosales and (probably Buchholtz) move up one.

Sweet deal for them.

OnBaseMachine
12-09-2008, 06:58 PM
So with Turner being dealt, Rosales and (probably Buchholtz) move up one.

Sweet deal for them.

Yep. I'll move Rosales and the winner of this poll up a spot and and re due the #25 prospect poll.

Danny Serafini
12-09-2008, 08:38 PM
Guess I picked the wrong time to vote for Waring. :laugh:

BuckeyeRedleg
12-09-2008, 11:08 PM
Guess I picked the wrong time to vote for Waring. :laugh:

Me too. I've voted for him in the last three polls.

texasdave
12-10-2008, 10:26 AM
Guess I picked the wrong time to vote for Waring. :laugh:

Maybe it's a good day for you to play the Lottery. =)

OnBaseMachine
12-10-2008, 11:15 AM
I'll add Byron Wiley, Clayton Shunick, and David Sappelt to the next poll.

princeton
12-10-2008, 11:59 AM
I'll add Byron Wiley, Clayton Shunick, and David Sappelt to the next poll.

in other words, it's about time to end the polls

OnBaseMachine
12-10-2008, 12:04 PM
in other words, it's about time to end the polls

No, not really. Sappelt (.850 OPS) and Wiley (1.062 OPS) have solid tools and had big years in Billings (I know, it's a hitters league). Shunick struggled but his stuff is pretty good. I remember watching him pitch during the CWS and coming away impressed with him.

OnBaseMachine
12-11-2008, 01:53 PM
Alex Buchholz wins this poll. The next poll will be open soon.