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fadetoblack2880
12-11-2008, 12:31 AM
per mlb alerts:

mets acquire j.j. putz, m's get aaron heilman and franklin gutierrez, and indians get joe smith.

i got this text while driving and was worried it involved the cubs and padres.

edit: i don't know who the other players involved are, it didn't say.

Bip Roberts
12-11-2008, 12:44 AM
Mets just owned that trade haha

Orodle
12-11-2008, 12:48 AM
Surprised the Mets traded Smith. Putz is good but Smith is solid as well, young and very cheap.

fadetoblack2880
12-11-2008, 12:51 AM
so, how many closers do the mets currently have? heres the details on this: The Mariners give up Putz, Green, and Reed and get Heilman, Chavez, Carp, and Gutierrez. The Indians give up Gutierrez and get Valbuena and Smith. The Mets give up Heilman, Chavez, Carp, and Smith to get Putz, Green, and Reed.

WildcatFan
12-11-2008, 02:01 AM
Well, the Mets said they wanted to improve their bullpen...

I can't think of a worse situation than having to face Johan for seven then looking out at Putz and K-Rod for the last two.

NorrisHopper30
12-11-2008, 02:05 AM
Putz wants to close, for some reason I think this doesn't work out.

WildcatFan
12-11-2008, 02:09 AM
They can be civil about this — I'm sure they'll work it out.

Putz can have Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays, K-Rod can have Wednesdays, Fridays, Sundays and the Yankees series

JayBruceFan
12-11-2008, 02:38 AM
Joe Smith should thrive in the Indians bullpen

straitpinkie
12-11-2008, 09:33 AM
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redsfandan
12-11-2008, 09:49 AM
the hell was that?

anyway...


WEDNESDAY, 11:02pm: Geoff Baker says the Mariners got three additional minor leaguers from the Mets: pitcher Maikel Cleto, outfielder Ezequiel Carrera, and pitcher Jason Vargas.

so it looks like the final tally is:
The Mets give up Heilman, Chavez, Smith, Carp, Cleto, Carrera, and Vargas to get Putz,
Green, and Reed.

The Mariners give up Putz, Green, and Reed and get Gutierrez, Heilman, Chavez, Carp, Cleto, Carrera, and Vargas.

The Indians give up Gutierrez and get Valbuena and Smith.

obviously the mets have dramatically improved their bullpen with putz and k-rod but, while i would've liked the mariners to have picked up at least one solid prospect, i still think they did ok. i'm not sold on clevelands part.

redsfandan
12-12-2008, 03:13 PM
some random related observations:

K-Rod has made nine postseason appearances in the last five years and gave up runs in six of them, including all four times he's pitched against the Red Sox. He twice took losses to Boston in the 2004 ALDS, and he gave up a walkoff three-run home run to Manny Ramirez to end the Angels' postseason last year. He hasn't had any blown saves since 2002, when he was instrumental in the Angels' World Series run. But he's hardly been a shutdown reliever in October.

If they pick up the 2010 option on Putz they'll be paying more than $20 million combined to just Putz and K-Rod in 2010.

Billy Wagner who had tommy john surgery in september will still be paid $10.5m in 2009. It's possible that he could be back next sept although he and the mets have a strained relationship now.

WildcatFan
12-12-2008, 03:38 PM
Silly Mets, paying more than $20 million for those guys. That's like a team paying $12 million for a guy who pitches one inning a game and only when they have the lead.

...hey, wait...

redsfandan
12-12-2008, 03:51 PM
lol that was good. I hope we don't see another mistake like cordero, milton, etc.