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redsfandan
12-12-2008, 05:38 PM
Yankees Sign A.J. Burnett By Tim Dierkes [December 12 at 3:56pm CST]
According to ESPN's Jerry Crasnick, the Yankees reached a preliminary agreement with A.J. Burnett on a five-year, $82.5MM deal ($16.5MM per year on average). The deal is pending a physical, and some final terms must be hammered out.

That's $243.5MM spent by the Yankees on starting pitching, unless C.C. Sabathia opts out. The Braves will have to figure out a Plan B.

redsfandan
12-12-2008, 05:46 PM
and the rich just keep getting richer.

so how many top pitchers do you think are going to end up in new york? (between the yankees and the mets)

redsfanmia
12-12-2008, 06:08 PM
I think this is the Yankees new Carl Pavano, I am not a fan of A.J. he only seems to stay healthy during contract years.

thewasson
12-12-2008, 06:11 PM
Is there any gratification that comes from buying a championship? I mean, I'd love to get to the big game, but something about earning it seams much more appealing to me.

Old NDN
12-12-2008, 06:16 PM
Gee, I love this "parity" in MLB. Bud, owners, and MLB players asociation have allowed this spending to spiral out of control, IMO. Might as well let those teams with open wallets compete and let the rest of us shut down. But, OTOH, the Rays, Rockies, and D'Backs, etc. give us hope, I guess.

redsfanmia
12-12-2008, 06:26 PM
Just remember the highest payroll does not equal winning championships. I doubt the Yankees win next year or the year after, the way the Yankees are going about assembling their team is not the way to win. The Yankee teams that won championships were primarily built through their system and augmented by free agents. A team of high dollar free agents is set up to fail IMO.

indyredleg
12-12-2008, 06:57 PM
Yankees had better teams in the late 90's with homegrown talent. Since they have been buying every FA up they are minus a WS tittle with this approach.

Good luck to them but AJ is over rated and CC is out of shape and now very over paid...he won't hold up under the NY pressure.

Emin3mShady07
12-12-2008, 06:59 PM
I think this is the Yankees new Carl Pavano, I am not a fan of A.J. he only seems to stay healthy during contract years.

One could only hope this is the case, that's wrong to hope than on Burnett, it's just I really dislike the Yanks. But Burnett has been relatively healthy for the last 4 years with his lowest amount of innings pitched being 135 in 2006, so in any case 135 good innings from Burnett would really help the yanks and unfortunately for everyone else, they have the resources to make the gamble on his health.

Jack Burton
12-12-2008, 07:01 PM
Sabathia
Burnett
Wang
Chamberlain

Guaranteed playoffs.

wojo1025
12-12-2008, 09:04 PM
Is there any gratification that comes from buying a championship? I mean, I'd love to get to the big game, but something about earning it seams much more appealing to me.

I'm going to have to say yes. And as a fan of good baseball I would LOVE for the Reds to be able to field the team NYY does. Could you imagine going to the ballpark on any given day and not only seeing ARod, Jeter and the likes but now to randomly pick a game and have the chance to watch CC, AJ, Wang, or Joba pitch? That would be unreal!

So, is it good for baseball....that's open for debate, but would I be unhappy if the Reds did this exact same thing...no sir.

As a matter of fact I would love to see the Reds right now go out and sign Manny, Derek Lowe, Furcal, and Ben Sheets.

Rotation of Lowe, Volquez, Sheets, Harang, Cueto. 1b: Votto; 2b; Phillips; SS: Furcal; 3b: EE; LF: ManRam; CF: Dickerson; RF: Bruce; C: Hernandez?

Where do I sign up for that?! Then you could trade Arroyo for a CF and we'd be looking pretty good, eh? Would you want to go watch that team play ball?

I do see what you're saying and it is a shame that the Yankees can just go out and pluck the best players from the FA class every year, but it is what it is and more power to them for being able to do it.

WildcatFan
12-13-2008, 12:39 AM
If they didn't go out and buy all that talent, it wouldn't be as fun to hate them. It makes stories like Tampa so much sweeter. I'm glad baseball has one of those teams — it gives the Yankees the evil villain tag. Just another reason baseball is the greatest sport known to man.

ChatterRed
12-13-2008, 02:06 AM
I sincerely mean it when I say I hope CC and AJ come down with arm injuries.

I'm sick of this crap where the high rollers buy a world championship. Sick of it.

I normally don't wish ill will on anyone, but I hate the Yankees and all that they stand for in terms of ruining baseball with the ability to outspend everyone.

Had CC and AJ gone elsewhere, I would not have wished it.

redsfandan
12-13-2008, 04:52 AM
While I'm not exactly a fan of the yankees either I can't blame them for taking advantage of an unfair system. And I can't blame the players union cuz, just like other unions, their priority is to do what's best for the employees (players). IMO, Bud and the other owners deserve all the credit for the inequality of team payrolls. Thanks Bud, this one's for you. :thumbdown

improbus
12-13-2008, 08:32 AM
You guys do realize that their outfield is currently the ghost of Johnny Damon, Melky Cabrera, and Xavier Nady, right....
I heard that they are pursuing a trade of Cabrera for Mike Cameron straight up. Wow... I wouldn't be too worried about NY. They have 3 DH's (Swisher, Matsui, Damon) an overrated 2B in Cano, an aging Jeter, and a scary catching situation. They could be one of the worst defensive teams in the AL. They might have picked up some big name starters, but I have a feeling that Burnett will get hurt and CC will feel the effects of his overuse last season. He did pitch a whopping 253 innings...

DTCromer
12-13-2008, 08:47 AM
I love this signing for the Yanks. It's only a matter of time before he gets injured again and we all know CC is going to fold in NY. Yanks don't even make the playoffs, again this year.

dougflynn23
12-13-2008, 03:04 PM
Sabathia
Burnett
Wang
Chamberlain

Guaranteed playoffs.

This batting order

Damon
Jeter
ARod
Matsui
Nady
Posada
Vacant
Vacant
Cano

Guaranteed 1st round elimination.

redsfandan
12-13-2008, 05:20 PM
Swisher will be fine in one of those spots and I think Matsui and Cano could bounce back too but even if they do deal Melky Cabrera for Mike Cameron their offense will still be pretty iffy. Oddly, iirc, Arod seems to do better in odd years so maybe Arod and their pitchers can carry them. I just wouldn't print any playoff tickets for them yet.

Emin3mShady07
12-13-2008, 07:42 PM
This batting order

Damon
Jeter
ARod
Matsui
Nady
Posada
Vacant
Vacant
Cano

Guaranteed 1st round elimination.

That batting order is pretty damn good. A-rod is the best player in the American League hands down and he led the league in VORP and would have easily been the MVP IMO or at least should have been, if he wasn't out for two weeks in the middle of the season. Damon and Jeter are easily capable of posting .370+ OBPs and they both can slug pretty well for their respective positions in the batting order. Matsui had the worst year of his career last year, but that was coming off an injury and I would bet he OPS's around .840 next year. Nady is above average and Posada very good when healthy. Swisher should be able to aptly fill one of those vacant spots and its the yankees so you know they will buy another bat to fill out the order. I wouldn't sell them short. Most lineups pale in comparison to theirs.

redsfandan
12-14-2008, 02:41 AM
They've replaced Abreu and Giambi with Swisher and ... that's it. Arod is the only safe bet for 30 hrs and if he misses any time they could be in trouble. They need one more bat.

improbus
12-14-2008, 06:50 AM
That batting order is pretty damn good. A-rod is the best player in the American League hands down and he led the league in VORP and would have easily been the MVP IMO or at least should have been, if he wasn't out for two weeks in the middle of the season. Damon and Jeter are easily capable of posting .370+ OBPs and they both can slug pretty well for their respective positions in the batting order. Matsui had the worst year of his career last year, but that was coming off an injury and I would bet he OPS's around .840 next year. Nady is above average and Posada very good when healthy. Swisher should be able to aptly fill one of those vacant spots and its the yankees so you know they will buy another bat to fill out the order. I wouldn't sell them short. Most lineups pale in comparison to theirs.
That is a batting order that will miss alot of games w/ injuries. Damon is 36, Posada 38, Jeter 34, Matsui 34. They have no real depth.

GoReds33
12-14-2008, 01:39 PM
This batting order

Damon
Jeter
ARod
Matsui
Nady
Posada
Vacant
Vacant
Cano

Guaranteed 1st round elimination.Put Manny in there, as they are thinking of doing, and you have a World Series team. That lineup is great if they can get some protection for ARod. Damon's not near as good as he used to be, but he still can be a good player. It seems like every year somebody overlooks how great of a hitter Posada really is. That lineup is stacked with a couple key additions.

TheNext44
12-14-2008, 04:07 PM
That batting order is pretty damn good. A-rod is the best player in the American League hands down and he led the league in VORP and would have easily been the MVP IMO or at least should have been, if he wasn't out for two weeks in the middle of the season. Damon and Jeter are easily capable of posting .370+ OBPs and they both can slug pretty well for their respective positions in the batting order. Matsui had the worst year of his career last year, but that was coming off an injury and I would bet he OPS's around .840 next year. Nady is above average and Posada very good when healthy. Swisher should be able to aptly fill one of those vacant spots and its the yankees so you know they will buy another bat to fill out the order. I wouldn't sell them short. Most lineups pale in comparison to theirs.

Yes, the Yankee lineup is better than most, but for $200M it should be dominating. It is a shadow of what it was in the past.

It used to be well about average 1-9, now it just is that 1-3, but Matsui is at or below league average for cleanup hitters if he is healthy, Nady is about league average for 5th hitters. Swisher is an unknown coming off a down year, as is Posada coming off an injury, and Cano and Cabrera just are not very good.

Then add that their bullpen is well below average after Rivera, and who knows how long he will be dominant, and it is hard to see the Yankees being a playoff team even with the addition of CC and AJ. BTW, CC was not nearly as dominant at the beginning of the year when he was in the AL Central as opposed to the NL Central. And the AL East, is even tougher. Also, AJ is a very good pitcher, a solid #2, but he is not an ace. Basically, the Yankees by adding CC and AJ just caught up with the Rays and Red Sox witht the top of the rotation, it is not like they now have the best rotation in the league, or even their division.

Yes, the Yankees are a very good team, but they are not great, and even with the new additions, they are still the third best team in their division.