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OnBaseMachine
12-21-2008, 02:58 PM
Redszone's Top Prospects

Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso
Prospect #2 - Todd Frazier
Prospect #3 - Neftali Soto
Prospect #4 - Drew Stubbs
Prospect #5 - Chris Valaika
Prospect #6 - Kyle Lotzkar
Prospect #7 - Daryl Thompson
Prospect #8 - Juan Francisco
Prospect #9 - Juan Duran
Prospect #10 - Chris Dickerson
Prospect #11 - Devin Mesoraco
Prospect #12 - Danny Dorn
Prospect #13 - Yorman Rodriguez
Prospect #14 - Zach Stewart
Prospect #15 - Josh Roenicke
Prospect #16 - Ramon Ramirez
Prospect #17 - Zach Cozart
Prospect #18 - Matt Maloney
Prospect #19 - Carlos Fisher
Prospect #20 - Chris Heisey
Prospect #21 - Ryan Hanigan
Prospect #22 - Dallas Buck
Prospect #23 - Adam Rosales
Prospect #24 - Alex Buchholz
Prospect #25 - Travis Wood
Prospect #26 - Jeremy Horst
Prospect #27 - Pedro Viola
Prospect #28 - Evan Hildenbrandt

camisadelgolf
12-21-2008, 03:00 PM
I don't see a poll option yet.

edit: Now it's there. I jumped the gun.

HokieRed
12-21-2008, 03:06 PM
Sulbaran time. #28 and 29 to surprise big time in 09.

OnBaseMachine
12-21-2008, 03:06 PM
I went with Sean Henry at #29. He's coming off a season in which he combined to hit .286/.362/.451 - .813 OPS between High-A and Double-A. He then followed that up with a .327/.389/.429 - .817 line in the Arizona Fall League. He may start the season in Louisville and have a chance to reach Cincy late in the year if he plays well.

OnBaseMachine
12-21-2008, 03:06 PM
Sulbaran will be my next pick.

Kc61
12-21-2008, 05:01 PM
Sam Lecure and Jordan Smith aren't being received very well. I hope they don't get discouraged.

I'm sure the Reds have noted their considerable abilities, reflected in performances last year.

*BaseClogger*
12-21-2008, 05:22 PM
Camisa,

Weren't you voting for someone else a few picks ago?

camisadelgolf
12-22-2008, 04:35 AM
Camisa,

Weren't you voting for someone else a few picks ago?

I was trying to rally behind Ismael Guillon, but based on everyone's response, I decided there's no chance he'll get voted in the top-30, no matter how hard I try to pull for him. It's understandable, though, since he's never thrown a professional pitch for the Reds. Therefore, I'm going with Dave Sappelt, who is a five-tool player who has put up great stats. The only knock against him is that he's 5'9", but Kirby Puckett was 5'8", had the same skill set, and made it into the Hall of Fame. It's uncanny how similar Sappelt and Puckett could be when it's all said and done.

camisadelgolf
12-22-2008, 04:48 AM
Here are Sappelt's numbers since being drafted this year:

Year Age Tm Lg Lvl Aff G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SB CS SB% SH SF IBB HBP GDP
+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+
2008 21 BIL PIO Rk CIN 62 254 47 76 19 5 7 35 21 45 .299 .354 .496 .850 6 3 67% 2 1 0 1 5

Sappelt is a toolsy, stocky outfielder who turns 22 next month and will almost definitely be Dayton's starting center fielder. Baseball America rated Sappelt as the Reds' best defensive draft pick of 2008.

Let me sum that up for you:
Sappelt is said to play an above-average center field, which is a prime defensive positon, and on top of that, he is very toolsy and has production to go with it.

Before he was drafted, scouts questioned his strike zone knowledge, but Sappelt is quickly putting that question to rest, managing to put together a .354 OBP while striking out only 45 times in 62 games.

That leaves only one thing working against him: his size. He's only 5'9", but somehow, he manages to put up good power numbers. Keep in mind, though, that he's projected to be a center fielder, so he doesn't necessarily need to continue his .850 OPS to be a very valuable player. However, if he does continue to produce at this rate, we could be seeing a future Kirby Puckett, who was almost identical in size and skill set.

mace
12-22-2008, 11:50 AM
Requests for the next fattening of the list:

Ramon Geronimo
Shea Snowden
Craig Tatum
Logan Parker
Aguido Gonzalez

No rush. I've still got half a dozen guys to vote on in the meantime . . .

Are we going to 40?

mace
12-22-2008, 11:53 AM
I was trying to rally behind Ismael Guillon, but based on everyone's response, I decided there's no chance he'll get voted in the top-30, no matter how hard I try to pull for him. It's understandable, though, since he's never thrown a professional pitch for the Reds. Therefore, I'm going with Dave Sappelt, who is a five-tool player who has put up great stats. The only knock against him is that he's 5'9", but Kirby Puckett was 5'8", had the same skill set, and made it into the Hall of Fame. It's uncanny how similar Sappelt and Puckett could be when it's all said and done.

If Sulbaran wins this one, I turn to Guillon.

OnBaseMachine
12-22-2008, 11:54 AM
Are we going to 40?

I was planning on going to 40 but we could go to 50 if you guys want to.

Danny Serafini
12-22-2008, 12:09 PM
I can keep clicking a box as long as there is one. :) Any chance Wilkin Castillo can get on the list soon?

OnBaseMachine
12-22-2008, 12:17 PM
I can keep clicking a box as long as there is one. :) Any chance Wilkin Castillo can get on the list soon?

I'll add him to the next poll.

princeton
12-22-2008, 02:34 PM
Are we going to 40?


Reds barely have 30

Mario-Rijo
12-22-2008, 02:34 PM
I can keep clicking a box as long as there is one. :) Any chance Wilkin Castillo can get on the list soon?

Very true, we have until Feb. before things start turning away. So I definitely think we can get through 45 if not 50.

RED VAN HOT
12-22-2008, 04:12 PM
Posted by Camisadelgolf in an earlier thread

"I think Horst is going to win this one by quite a bit, so I'm going to go ahead and lobby for Dave Sappelt. Here are his numbers since being drafted:
Code:

Year Age Tm Lg Lvl Aff G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SB CS SB% SH SF IBB HBP GDP
+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+
2008 21 BIL PIO Rk CIN 62 254 47 76 19 5 7 35 21 45 .299 .354 .496 .850 6 3 67% 2 1 0 1 5

Sappelt is a toolsy, stocky outfielder who turns 22 next month and will almost definitely be Dayton's starting center fielder. Baseball America rated Sappelt as the Reds' best defensive draft pick of 2008.

Let me sum that up for you:
Sappelt is said to play an above-average center field, which is a prime defensive positon, and on top of that, he is very toolsy and has production to go with it.

Before he was drafted, scouts questioned his strike zone knowledge, but Sappelt is quickly putting that question to rest, managing to put together a .354 OBP while striking out only 45 times in 62 games.

That leaves only one thing working against him: his size. He's only 5'9", but somehow, he manages to put up good power numbers. Keep in mind, though, that he's projected to be a center fielder, so he doesn't necessarily need to continue his .850 OPS to be a very valuable player. However, if he does continue to produce at this rate, we could be seeing a future Kirby Puckett, who was almost identical in size and skill set. "

Concerning the comparison to Kirby Puckett, such comparisons are interesting. The line for KP's rookie league season (same age and experience level) is as follows:

AB 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO Avg OBP SLG OPS
275 15 3 3 35 43 4 25 27 .382 .438 .491 .929

Baseball cube has a scouting report rating system for power, speed, contact, and patience. Here is a comparison of the two players (scale of 100).

Player Power Speed Contact Patience
KP 66 62 80 15
DS 89 55 76 38

Sappelt has a decided edge on power; Surprisingly, neither is evaluated as having exceptional speed. For reference, Drew Stubbs is rated at 93; Chris Heisey 85; Justin Reed 83. Considering his power potential, I am wondering if Sappelt might project better as a corner outfielder.

tripleaaaron
12-23-2008, 12:38 AM
I was planning on going to 40 but we could go to 50 if you guys want to.

Why stop there, how many guys are in the farm system? I will partake until we are out of options if you want.

tripleaaaron
12-23-2008, 12:44 AM
I think these guys were underscored on their speed a bit. Maybe baseball cube doesnt like short pudgy people.

klw
12-23-2008, 10:34 AM
Can we add Wilkin Castillo to the list of options?

thorn
12-23-2008, 05:50 PM
I think you need to add the NY Yankees to the list, the amount of money the Reds get from the luxury tax has to help in the international signings.

membengal
03-09-2009, 08:57 PM
Sulbaran time. #28 and 29 to surprise big time in 09.


Given what he did tonite in a big spot, this may be low. The kid has really electric stuff.

Even if he gives up runs in the 7th, this has been eye-opening.