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texasdave
02-04-2009, 08:40 PM
Signings per CNNSI:

UC http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2009&School=12

tOSU http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2009&School=56

Click this link for any other school

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/01/28/team-by-team-commitments/index.html?eref=T1

A recruiting analyst (Something Crabtree) was on the radio down here in Houston and had the Buckeyes' recruiting class ranked third nationally this year, FWIW.

WVRed
02-04-2009, 08:51 PM
My guess is LSU will be no 1. No 2 QB recruit, no 3 RB recruit, and the top wideout, to go along with the top safety and a five star DT, among others.

dabvu2498
02-04-2009, 09:18 PM
And Leslie Miles will still be declared a moron.

texasdave
02-04-2009, 09:19 PM
I made a quick chart of the Big East recruits that were listed as signed so far. I would imagine, aside from Syracuse, the lists are pretty complete. I added Ohio State at the end as a barometer.


POS UC CONN UL PITT RUT SFL SYR WV OHST
OL 3 2 2 4 2 5 4 5 4
RB 0 1 2 5 2 2 0 3 3
TE 2 0 0 1 2 1 0 0 1
WR 2 4 3 3 2 2 1 4 3
QB 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
DL 7 6 5 3 5 8 2 3 4
LB 4 1 3 2 3 4 1 3 3
DB 5 3 7 1 3 4 5 4 4
K 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
ATH 1 2 0 0 3 3 0 1 2

TOTAL 25 21 23 20 23 30 14 24 25

5-STAR 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
4-STAR 2 1 1 4 4 6 0 6 15
3-STAR 8 3 7 11 15 18 4 15 8
2-STAR 14 17 15 0 4 6 10 3 0
1-STAR 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0-STAR 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

TOTAL 25 21 23 15 23 30 14 24 25


STR/REC 2.40 2.24 2.39 3.27 3.00 3.00 2.29 3.13 3.76

The Bearcats looks as though they concentrated on the defensive side of the ball. Worth mentioning is that Ohio State had 2 five-star recruits, no one in the Big East pulled one in. Ohio State had 15 four-star recruits, the BE combined had just 22. If you didn't receive at least three stars Ohio State was not interested. Three stars in the BE and you are starting by your sophomore year.

texasdave
02-04-2009, 09:20 PM
My guess is LSU will be no 1. No 2 QB recruit, no 3 RB recruit, and the top wideout, to go along with the top safety and a five star DT, among others.

That Crabtree guy on the radio had Alabama rated number one. I just caught the tail end of that segment. I think he had LSU second and Ohio State third.

paintmered
02-04-2009, 09:29 PM
I made a quick chart of the Big East recruits that were listed as signed so far. I would imagine, aside from Syracuse, the lists are pretty complete. I added Ohio State at the end as a barometer.


POS UC CONN UL PITT RUT SFL SYR WV OHST
OL 3 2 2 4 2 5 4 5 4
RB 0 1 2 5 2 2 0 3 3
TE 2 0 0 1 2 1 0 0 1
WR 2 4 3 3 2 2 1 4 3
QB 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
DL 7 6 5 3 5 8 2 3 4
LB 4 1 3 2 3 4 1 3 3
DB 5 3 7 1 3 4 5 4 4
K 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
ATH 1 2 0 0 3 3 0 1 2

TOTAL 25 21 23 20 23 30 14 24 25

5-STAR 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
4-STAR 2 1 1 4 4 6 0 6 15
3-STAR 8 3 7 11 15 18 4 15 8
2-STAR 14 17 15 0 4 6 10 3 0
1-STAR 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0-STAR 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

TOTAL 25 21 23 15 23 30 14 24 25


STR/REC 2.40 2.24 2.39 3.27 3.00 3.00 2.29 3.13 3.76

The Bearcats looks as though they concentrated on the defensive side of the ball. Worth mentioning is that Ohio State had 2 five-star recruits, no one in the Big East pulled one in. Ohio State had 15 four-star recruits, the BE combined had just 22. If you didn't receive at least three stars Ohio State was not interested. Three stars in the BE and you are starting by your sophomore year.

The most recent graduating class at UC was in the bottom half of CUSA in the recruiting rankings. That class also featured 3 All-Americans (Mickens, Byrd and Huber). 3 others in that class will likely be drafted (Canfield, DLo Smith and Barwin).

Recruiting is fun to look at, but don't put too much stock into it.

WVRed
02-04-2009, 09:32 PM
That Crabtree guy on the radio had Alabama rated number one. I just caught the tail end of that segment. I think he had LSU second and Ohio State third.

Yeah, you could debate Alabama and LSU no 1 and 2. My take is whoever landed Reuben Randle would get the no 1 spot, and that happened to be LSU. I do give Alabama credit for being able to hang on to Trent Richardson.

WMR
02-04-2009, 09:34 PM
The most recent graduating class at UC was in the bottom half of CUSA in the recruiting rankings. That class also featured 3 All-Americans (Mickens, Byrd and Huber). 3 others in that class will likely be drafted (Canfield, DLo Smith and Barwin).

Recruiting is fun to look at, but don't put too much stock into it.

In college football, how you coach the kids up when they arrive on campus is infinitely more important than their 'stock' going in.

Highlifeman21
02-04-2009, 09:43 PM
In college football, how you coach the kids up when they arrive on campus is infinitely more important than their 'stock' going in.

ND is a great example of this

WVRed
02-04-2009, 10:36 PM
ND is a great example of this

I think of West Virginia with Jason Gwaltney. He was supposed to be the best RB Rich Rodriguez had ever recruited. That distinction now goes to another running back from the same class by the name of Steve Slaton.

WMR
02-04-2009, 10:44 PM
UK had a nice class, WV.

WVRed
02-04-2009, 11:01 PM
UK had a nice class, WV.

Yeah, I am definitely happy with the class Kentucky has coming in this year, especially the quarterbacks. Chris Matthews may be our biggest recruit though. He reminds me a lot of Steve Johnson.

I will say this in regards to coaching the kids. Rich Brooks hasn't brought in the All Americans like Florida, LSU, and Alabama do every year, but he has gotten the most out of the talent that he has recruited. Brooks also realizes speed is the necessity to compete in the SEC.

I remember when there were only a handful of players who did good running the 40. Now just about everybody can do so.

Danny Serafini
02-05-2009, 10:59 AM
I would imagine, aside from Syracuse, the lists are pretty complete.

Your Syracuse list is complete. They didn't lose a lot of players so they don't have that many scholarships to give this year.

WVRed
02-05-2009, 11:21 AM
Kentucky also picked up a 4 star DE in DeQuin Evans. It was down to Kentucky and Louisville, but I think the Chris Matthews factor won out.

WMR
02-05-2009, 11:41 AM
Kentucky also picked up a 4 star DE in DeQuin Evans. It was down to Kentucky and Louisville, but I think the Chris Matthews factor won out.

I checked out Louisville's class and it was pretty underwhelming.

Hoosier Red
02-05-2009, 12:31 PM
Kentucky also picked up a 4 star DE in DeQuin Evans. It was down to Kentucky and Louisville, but I think the Chris Matthews factor won out.

I never thought Chris Matthews would be so popular in Kentucky.

WVRed
02-05-2009, 12:41 PM
Ha.

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/CHRISMATTHEWS4_18200.JPG

Redsfaithful
02-05-2009, 05:10 PM
My wife's cousin signed with Ohio State, Sam Longo. Pretty cool as the entire family has always been big Ohio State fans.

macro
02-05-2009, 11:39 PM
What's Kentucky going to do with all these quarterbacks? Hartline will only be a junior, Cobb a sophomore, and then the two freshmen? Will one of the freshmen end up being moved to another position? and how did they convince both of them to come, given that the other would potentially provide competition all four years?

Also, I think I heard today that the SEC placed ten in the top 25 draft classes, so even with UK's great (for them) class, they're still next-to-last in the SEC.

LoganBuck
02-05-2009, 11:43 PM
My wife's cousin signed with Ohio State, Sam Longo. Pretty cool as the entire family has always been big Ohio State fans.

I am pretty psyched about Sam. I think he has potential to be a good one. I know the videos of him on the internet are pretty impressive.

WMR
02-05-2009, 11:53 PM
What's Kentucky going to do with all these quarterbacks? Hartline will only be a junior, Cobb a sophomore, and then the two freshmen? Will one of the freshmen end up being moved to another position? and how did they convince both of them to come, given that the other would potentially provide competition all four years?

Also, I think I heard today that the SEC placed ten in the top 25 draft classes, so even with UK's great (for them) class, they're still next-to-last in the SEC.

Cobb isn't really a QB. He'll be all over the field next season, but primarily as a WR. Look for him to be utilized in some Wildcat formation type stuff as well.

One of the freshmen will almost definitely redshirt.

When you put kids into the NFL, other prospects take notice. They'll both likely get plenty of PT during their stay at UK.

Coach Brooks had an awesome quote about those rankings talking about how many of our guys who were "only" 3 star recruits are now in the NFL or are going to be there shortly as well as now being All-SEC ranked players.

WVRed
02-06-2009, 12:07 AM
My guess is Hartline will open the season as the starter.

As WMR said, Cobb is going to likely be a wideout and kick returns. That is where most of his talent lies anyways.

If I were Brooks, Mossakowski would redshirt. We already have a similar QB in Hartline, so holding a clipboard might be for the best.

Newton could give a spark similar to Cobb last season, and IMO is a lot better groomed for the QB position. I'd like to see a Hartline/Newton platoon similar to Tebow/Leak.

Heres a question, who do you think will ultimately have a better career? LSU's Russell Shepherd or Kentucky's Morgan Newton. Both are eerily similar in terms of the style they play. I think Newton will have a harder time reaching the field because Kentucky is extremely deep at QB.

WMR
02-06-2009, 12:08 AM
Agreed, WV, I don't think there's ANY question that Hartline opens up camp as the starter... if he struggles though, it will get ugly fast and he'll get yanked even quicker. :D

Javy Pornstache
02-06-2009, 12:45 AM
Michael Hartline:football::Michael Porter:basketball

WMR
02-06-2009, 12:54 AM
Michael Hartline:football::Michael Porter:basketball

At least one has a good attitude even when the chips are down for him.

Javy Pornstache
02-06-2009, 01:12 AM
At least one has a good attitude even when the chips are down for him.

Very true. I just meant mainly as far as being the whipping boys and what not. I felt no sympathy for Hartline after his throwing the rest of the boys under the bus. I at least feel a little sympathy for Porter - after all, I, too, was a non-PG having been thrusted into the PG position on a team for lack of better options. At least I figured out you were allowed to pass the ball INSIDE, and not necessarily just side-to-side :D

BuckeyeRed27
02-06-2009, 08:21 PM
I don't follow UK football so excuse my ignorance but does this Hartline have any relation to Buckeye great (he's leaving early he must be good) Brian Hartline?

WMR
02-06-2009, 08:37 PM
They're brothers. :p:

WVRed
02-07-2009, 09:06 PM
They're brothers. :p:

Indeed they are.